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Infamous "Duke 88" (Professors Who Adjudged Lacross Guilty) To be Huge Civil Suit Targets
Dinner with other lawyers | MB26

Posted on 06/17/2007 6:25:09 AM PDT by MindBender26

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To: P-Marlowe

>>>>All you are trying to do is to make cogent arguments to people who are a lot smarter than you are.

I tried that with an ex-wife a few times.

Bummer.

:~)


461 posted on 06/18/2007 9:37:23 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
>>>>When does the President and the Duke Board of Trustees get their turn in the barrel?

They are off hook as servants of the Corporate Person.

Someone mentioned that the Duke endowment would be deep pockets. Probably protected about 20 ways. They would never allow something of that value to be attackable or attachable in any sort of action.

462 posted on 06/18/2007 9:40:27 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26
I tried that with an ex-wife a few times.

I take it that you are living in that Lexus now?

463 posted on 06/18/2007 9:47:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Broker
>>>>Duke University is a community of scholars and learners, committed to the principles of honesty, trustworthiness, fairness, and respect for others. Students share with faculty and staff the responsibility for promoting a climate of integrity. As citizens of this community, students are expected to adhere to these fundamental values at all times, in both their academic and non-academic endeavors.

That sounds great, and like the old Army Officer Corps Honor Code (”I will neither lie, cheat, steal nor quibble, nor tolerate in my ranks those who do”) has a great purpose.

Two things jump out, however;

“fairness”
“respect for others”

By including these requirements, but using words and phrases that are subject to interpretation by juries (such as “fairness”) one open oneself’ to a raft of problems.

What is “fair?” Is it fair to give scholarships to some students based on academic performance, when they come from rich families, thereby denying admission to a slightly less gifted but poor student?

The law can understand words like “miles”, “hour” and the like, but “fair” is a legal snake pit.

464 posted on 06/18/2007 9:49:54 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: P-Marlowe

I got custody of my shirts.


465 posted on 06/18/2007 9:51:04 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26

I see your dilemma. It is hard to practice law without pants.


466 posted on 06/18/2007 9:58:04 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MindBender26
Duke like Harvard and Yale were colleges established by Christians. When morals and ethics were founded on biblical principles, not rule of law. Values nows dismissed by our legalist society.
467 posted on 06/18/2007 10:25:36 AM PDT by Broker (Haddi Nuff)
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To: P-Marlowe
>>>>I see your dilemma. It is hard to practice law without pants.

1. Your Honor! I seem to have misplaced my briefs!

2. It hasn’t seemed to inhibit that judge/plaintiff in DC! Be well.

468 posted on 06/18/2007 10:33:01 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: MindBender26

Interesting, although Lehigh University, Bethlehm, PA, had to settle a specious wrongful death suit. The outcome of which is telephone boxes with blue lights and published crime statistics for all universities.


469 posted on 06/18/2007 10:33:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Crush your enemies; see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women - Conan)
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To: P-Marlowe
I see your dilemma. It is hard to practice law without pants.

Yeah, just ask that Judge up in DC - you know, the one with the $56 million dollar pants.

470 posted on 06/18/2007 10:36:46 AM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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To: dellbabe68
You gotta click the links, or you'll miss 'em :)

The article I linked.

From the article, last year's Duke 88 letter

I think the paper made it sound like the Duke 88 (now 87 - to be fair, one apologized) wrote a new one but I do not think they have. And yet here is this year's Duke 87 letter, also linked in the same article.

OTOH, I would like to see a link to the alleged "apology".

471 posted on 06/18/2007 2:44:03 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Any means, fair or foul, to defeat the islamic filth.)
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To: anton

Agreed.


472 posted on 06/19/2007 5:31:58 AM PDT by melstew
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To: MindBender26

As compares your textbook, and the Bill of Rights, I’ll go with the latter. There is no lawsuit against the signatores of the letter


473 posted on 06/19/2007 5:34:40 AM PDT by melstew
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To: MindBender26

It’d be nice to see the out-of-control civil court system actually used for a good cause for a change...


474 posted on 06/19/2007 5:37:36 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Government is too important to leave up to the government" - Fred Dalton Thompson)
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To: melstew
>>>>There is no lawsuit against the signatores of the letter

Yet

I could easily argue, (and in exchange for releasing from from damages claims, get some signatories of the letter to truthfully testify that) the purpose of this "letter' was to bring pressure on the falsely accused members of the lacrosse team and the Duke administration.

I would argue that taken as individual statements, there are certainly some that have been expanded, enhanced and exaggerated to as to create emotion. A statement that is expanded, enhanced and exaggerated to as to create emotion is no longer the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth.

Take the statement "All you heard was "Black students complain all the time...." Is that totally and completely true? In his or her time at Duke, did he or she never hear any person say anything else. I don't only mean only did he or she not hear someone, even a white student say something supportive of Black students on race issues? I'm also asking did he/she never hear anyone say any other words,? Did no one ever order lunch, discuss a class or a Friday night date? At a school with the academic standing of Duke, did no one ever discuss an academic issue? If any of the above would be answered in the positive, then the original statement is not true.

I have no desire to get into context here. A statement is true or it is not. This sample statement is/was not true. They (the 88) caused it to be published.

What was their intent? Certainly some of the signers, in exchange for release for liability will truthfully explain that the real end result was to poison the judicial atmosphere so as to deny the Duke boys their civil rights.

Not an easy case, but a winner.

475 posted on 06/19/2007 6:24:27 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: cripplecreek

I think this is great if its true. I hope they are sued into the stone age and beyond.
I am not a person that likes this kind of thing but, in this case, I hope 88 homes get siezed and sold at auction!


476 posted on 06/19/2007 8:46:14 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: Reaganesque

CRRROOOOMMMMMMM!


477 posted on 06/19/2007 8:57:50 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
However, in the context of events on campus, and with the specific date and event referenced, I think it is actionable.

What about now?? Will the settlement keeping their butts out of hot water?

478 posted on 06/20/2007 6:00:57 PM PDT by alrea
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