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Immigration bill ignores low-wage workers' concerns (Blacks protesting Dems votes on amnesty)
The Record and Herald ^ | June 15, 2007 | Lawrence Aaron

Posted on 06/17/2007 5:40:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to adopt a whole wave of disgruntled African-(true) Americans into the new coalition of patriot conservatives that will arise out of the dustheap of DC Elitists dumping on ALL of us born Americans.... African-Americans have been part of this nation’s history...helping to build it, serving in the military and other contributions. That illegals come here and trash our fellow Americans chaps me bad. DEPORT them back whence they came.


41 posted on 06/17/2007 8:49:41 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. As I predicted he would try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up. We have no choice but to fight. The oligarchy wants cheap labor and a destruction of the middle class and the millionaire democrats want votes they can count on. A marriage made in HELL.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

42 posted on 06/17/2007 8:50:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: etradervic

DITTO. Children of illegal immigrants who want to follow their father to work in construction are running into the problem of not being hired because the employer realized that he speaks good English during the interview and assumes he is an American who knows his rights. The employer would hire only hispanics that speak poor English and not American hispanics.


43 posted on 06/17/2007 8:54:05 PM PDT by Fee ( R)
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To: ANGGAPO

“My gut feeling is that the illegals will replace the black workers because the illegals will work for less. “

They don’t work for less (take home pay). They just have to work off the books (no workers comp, no health insurance, no taxes withheld.)


44 posted on 06/17/2007 9:30:46 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: glorgau

“Because they don’t matter. They are going to vote 90+% Democrat no matter what happens.”

Because we don’t matter. We are going to vote 90+% Republican no matter what happens!

Different sides of the same coin.

I will not vote for another unprincipled Republican because I am told that “a Democrat would be so much worse”.

BS. If my vote is going to count I must be willing to change it.


45 posted on 06/18/2007 8:18:47 AM PDT by EEDUDE (The more I know, the less I understand...)
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To: RS

This thread starts with an article from northjersey.com.

I can tell you for a fact that the demographic in North Jersey with the highest level of unemployment is African-American males age 16-25. Has been so for over two decades here. In areas where the African-American community is functioning, and are bringing up good kids, but are living within working class communities, it has become nearly impossible for African-American young males in this state to find summer jobs because every position is filled with legal and illegal immigrants. The NJ State Dept of Labor, NJ Workforce investment Board, and NJ dept of education have been pushing home this point with no success for years, none of the NJ Democrats limousine liberal financial supporters want to hear it. (And the Republicans above county level are worse)

NJ a a whole will have the lowest percentage of high school students in the summer workforce since employment statistics were started. This disproportionately affects the poorest households in the state.


46 posted on 06/18/2007 4:37:39 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

“...it has become nearly impossible for African-American young males in this state to find summer jobs because every position is filled with legal and illegal immigrants. “

How do NON-”African-American young males in this state” avoid the problem ?

I suppose it would be too much to ask that they might spend some of that leisure time working for candidates that are against illegal immigration.


47 posted on 06/18/2007 7:51:04 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: EEDUDE

“I will not vote for another unprincipled Republican because I am told that “a Democrat would be so much worse”.”

Is that the old “ I’m going to send them a message” fallicy ?

That kind of thinking got fools to vote for Perot and saddled us with Clintons. I’m sure THEY enjoyed hearing the “ message that got sent “.


48 posted on 06/18/2007 8:02:59 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
How do NON-”African-American young males in this state” avoid the problem ?

Well, we are talking about the lower end of the job market. If an employer breaks the law and hires an African-American teenager for sub-minimum wage, he will go to jail. If he breaks the law and hires an illegal for sub-minimum wage, nothing will happen. That's the problem.

49 posted on 06/18/2007 8:44:53 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks were adversely affected by the large influx of Euros who poured into this country before we even had real immigration laws. We can just imagine how bad it is now with the illegals.


50 posted on 06/18/2007 8:46:29 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am going to phone Senator Boxer tomorrow (who voted No on the key cloture vote) using African-American dialect. Is that wrong?


51 posted on 06/18/2007 8:47:39 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: TLEIBY308
Yes but as soon as they become legal hey will demand the same pay as REAL Americans.

When they get real pay and benefits, the exploiters will want a whole new crop of illegals. And the process starts all over again...

52 posted on 06/18/2007 8:52:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (MSM's dumped inner city unemployment stories - Immigration bill conflicts and all....)
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To: Clemenza

“Blacks were adversely affected by the large influx of Euros who poured into this country ...”

You mean those Euros, most of whom did not speak english, but quickly blew right by them on the economic scale ?

The Democrats have made it their job to see that Blacks have a perpetual lock on the bottom rung of the ladder, When they legalize the illegals, those people can start to move up, freeing up those bottom rung slots once again.


53 posted on 06/19/2007 3:57:54 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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