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To: pieceofthepuzzle; dayglored

You hit it on the head. dayglored has much more experience in the field than I, and gave a good reply.

This will only pass through pure strongarming and palm greasing, it’s a simple and straightforward concept that has been given alot of media time in NY State after the 2004 elections.

Anyone interested further can look at http://www.votingmachinesprocon.org/
it gives both sides of the debate, though it hasn’t mentioned the NYState lobbyist bill yet on the website...


12 posted on 06/18/2007 12:02:41 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
> You hit it on the head. dayglored has much more experience in the field than I, and gave a good reply.

I hadn't yet thanked you for your excellent comment above in #5:

> What you are suggesting, and what MS is lobbying for, leaves huge holes open for low level memory buffer overflow exploits, and memory capture/alteration exploits and other attacks at boot up before the OS loads the election software program into memory... From the assigned RAM that holds the election software’s tallies, the OS must control all hardware and memory switches that move that information out to external hardware, be it a memory card or ethernet connection or whatever. All of that must be reviewable by independent experts. The ENTIRE chain of custody of the information in memory must be 100% secure. MS is lobbying for a small fort to be built amongst a countryside full of thieves.

Quite so. Those of us who have at one time or another had to use core (memory) dumps to locate "live" data and read values off the CPU stack during procedure calls, know only too well how easy it is for a malicious program to get into the memory of a running computer and alter, add, remove, all sorts of data, with the application completely unaware that the ground is shifting under it.

You said it more succinctly --

All of that must be reviewable by independent experts. The ENTIRE chain of custody of the information in memory must be 100% secure.
Microsoft is trying to make it easier for the bad guys to corrupt and control American elections. We ignore this danger at our peril.
16 posted on 06/18/2007 12:32:44 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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