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Homeschoolers Disrespected on Ebert & Roeper
Ebert & Roeper ^ | 6/18/07

Posted on 06/18/2007 12:21:52 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

Edited on 06/18/2007 1:15:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: SoftballMominVA
I stand corrected as to Bob Jones IV.

I am also, however, entitled to my opinion of your opinion and you know how low an opinion that is. Objectively and justifiably so since you actually have the temerity to defend the indefensible training ground of the leftists known as gummint skewels. Be sure to get back to us when your kids turn leftward. Meanwhile, you and other love slaves of the National Education Associaton pay all of the exorbitant bills for the gummint brainwashing of those kids abandoned to the gummint skewels and leave conservatives' earnings alone.

That should help you get your facts straight.

301 posted on 06/21/2007 2:17:02 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Actually I don't defend public schools as an institution, you've misunderstood me entirely. I defend only those schools with which I have enough familiarity to make a statement as to whether the school is run in a reasonable fashion. How could anyone defend the nonsense that is Detroit public schools or Washington DC schools? If I were so cursed as to live in a district such as that, my children would never have been enrolled there. Furthermore, the NEA is indefensible. I have never been a member and never will be, assuming of course I remain in a 'right to work state' and am not forced into one.

As to the leftward leaning of my children, again you have missed the mark - both girls are very conservative and very grounded in our religion. Any parent who leaves the responsibility of their child's spiritual and moral training to another gets exactly what they deserve. My husband and I did neither. At 17 and 20, I could not be prouder of their morals, but it was not left to chance - ever.

You never bothered to read what I wrote - all you did was overlay your opinions and expectations over my statements and twist it into some sort of odd debate. Attacking a fellow conservative is in poor taste - what say we leave the attacking to those we have huge differences with rather than try to find ways to mock another over imagined slights and some imaginary 'scale of conservatism."

302 posted on 06/21/2007 4:45:10 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: BlackElk

Hey buddy, Gabz is my friend, and she has always, always, unstintingly, supported me in my homeschooling efforts. She is not a public-school doormat, far from it. You don’t know her, you haven’t met her, but I have. Your remarks are really, quite unnecessary, I assure you.


303 posted on 06/21/2007 5:26:34 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: pray4liberty

That’s nice but people may reasonably be judged on what they post. I don’t know you either.


304 posted on 06/22/2007 10:01:08 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: pray4liberty
Also the conflict was not over whether someone "supports" your homeschooling or not. The SCOTUS already did that definitively in Pearce v. the Society of Sisters in 1927. The current contention is over whether gummint skewels should exist at all to brainwash the children of the indolent in the doctrines of our enemies at our expense. On that matter, well-meaning is not the equivalent of acting appropriately. Assuming the well-meaning part, which is not to be taken for granted, respect must still be earned the old-fashioned way. Respect is not an entitlement of some sort like "self-esteem" for the little denizens trapped in gummint skewels who cannot spell or read or do math but are encouraged in "self-esteem" regardless. This is a mindset of: "Everyone wins and all will have prizes." The very sort of idiocy that characterizes gummint skewels and explains their descent from mediocrity.

I gather that there are reasons WHY you homeschool, other than a coin flip or something. Are your reasons unique to your family and your kids and inapplicable to the children abandoned to PS 666? So long as there are gummint skewels, parents make the decisions and many will dump their kids there but they DO NOT PAY THE FREIGHT even for the ideological and spiritual perversion of their own kids (or mostly pay attention to that ongoing process because it is inconvenient to "free" babysitting).

Do the leftists, atheists, agnostics, ape-worshipers, et al., have a RIGHT to your tax money and mine to run their leftist training camps so long as (other than money) they leave us alone? That is how people in the soviet union lived.

305 posted on 06/22/2007 10:16:17 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: pray4liberty

I also would observe that you are making an unwarranted assumption in calling me “buddy” at least at this point.


306 posted on 06/22/2007 10:19:09 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: SoftballMominVA

The issue is still: SHOULD gummint skewels be suffered to exist? For the reasons previously stated, NO!


307 posted on 06/22/2007 10:20:11 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: LibertyRocks

Oh,heavens. They know how to read and spell correctly. Ya don’t wanna do that, do ya?


308 posted on 06/22/2007 10:35:47 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: LibertyRocks

Oh,heavens. They know how to read and spell correctly. Ya don’t wanna do that, do ya?


309 posted on 06/22/2007 10:35:52 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: FremontLives

Homeschoolers have proms, too, you know. There are homeschooled parents who get together with others all the time. Shows how ignorant you are.


310 posted on 06/22/2007 10:38:02 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: FremontLives

Homeschoolers have proms, too, you know. There are homeschooled parents who get together with others all the time. Shows how ignorant you are. They also have graduations with other homeschoolers. The homeschooled kids I know are much better off emotionally, physically, spiritually and every other way than public school misfits.


311 posted on 06/22/2007 10:39:14 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

And we won’t even talk about what riding the bus can be these days...


312 posted on 06/22/2007 10:41:25 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: pray4liberty
I've noticed that this type of zero sum game extremism has almost totally taken over FR in the last few months.

One guy hammered me for being a big government liberal because I didn't support privatizing municipal police and fire departments, and the IDers have been chastisizing everyone who doesn't believe the Earth is 6,000 years old as being un-Christian.

I guess the collapse of the Bush presidency has led many to board up their brains like a house before a hurricane.

313 posted on 06/22/2007 10:57:48 AM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: Marysecretary

Your comments are just as ignorant as you accuse mine of being. But hey, if I hadn’t said it, you’d never be able to be such a Johnny Come Lately to such a long dead thread. Please leave me the hell alone.


314 posted on 06/22/2007 11:06:57 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: GunRunner

Well said! Right on. “I guess the collapse of the Bush presidency has led many to board up their brains like a house before a hurricane.” So true.


315 posted on 06/22/2007 11:09:25 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: LibertyRocks
I'll admit, a few years ago, I got educated about homeschoolers here on FR. I shared the stereotypes about kids who were socially isolated, and pretty much just taught Christianity, without a knowledge of the wider world.

In Ebert and Roeper's world, the few kids they know go either to the government schools in a well-financed district, or more likely, to some sort of expensive private academy. It's not that they are trying to be jerks, they just don't know any better.

The best cure for blind prejudice is knowledge. Hopefully, these gentlemen can acquire some.

316 posted on 06/22/2007 11:49:29 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: FremontLives

With pleasure.


317 posted on 06/22/2007 12:34:15 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: BlackElk
I also would observe that you are making an unwarranted assumption in calling me “buddy” at least at this point.

Everybody on FR is a buddy to me, because they are usually nice people! It's a compliment, it's a shame you don't want to think so.

However you did post to me three times! So what's with that?

I am not disagreeing with your point of view. I am not a fan of big government either. The whole thing is on the verge of collapse. However, I cannot in good conscience stand by and read a post that insults a good friend. Surely, you can understand that. My friend Gabz is not against educational freedom (i.e. homeschooling etc.), that is the point I was making.

318 posted on 06/22/2007 12:36:51 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: BlackElk

In your opinion, there should be no schools whatsoever - all parents should pay for 100% of the cost of their child’s education in a private or home setting. Have I misrepresented what you have said in that statement? Would you also include community colleges, universities, med schools, law schools and other institutions of higher learning in that statement?


319 posted on 06/22/2007 12:40:38 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: hunter112
It's not that they are trying to be jerks, they just don't know any better.

Well said.

320 posted on 06/22/2007 4:11:49 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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