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Kill (Their) Bill
Human Events ^ | 06/18/2007 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 06/18/2007 7:26:50 AM PDT by conservative4

It’s entirely fair to ask why this administration -- or the next -- should expect us to believe it will live up to the promises of border security and enforcement that are being made and will be made in the 2008 campaign. We don’t believe those promises for two reasons. One: if President Bush were sincere about border security, he would have done a lot since 2000, and he hasn’t. And he could do a lot right now, without demanding the Bush-McKennedy bill in trade. Two: if any candidate wants us to believe he is sincere about border security -- which Sen. McCain is sincere about precluding -- they need to say, clearly, that the border security must be accomplished first and that a “comprehensive” bill is precisely the wrong approach. That McCain’s presidential campaign is sinking is no coincidence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; conservatives; harryreid; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; jebbabbin; noamnestyforillegals; senate; vampirebill; wontgetfooledagain

1 posted on 06/18/2007 7:26:53 AM PDT by conservative4
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2 posted on 06/18/2007 7:29:20 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: xcamel

WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!

THIS bill is OUTRAGEOUS!

KILL THE BILL!!!


3 posted on 06/18/2007 7:30:50 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: conservative4
...if any candidate wants us to believe he is sincere about border security -- which Sen. McCain is sincere about precluding --they need to say, clearly, that the border security must be accomplished first...

BINGO

4 posted on 06/18/2007 7:33:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Open border Lobbies push for amnesty when borders leak like sieves? Why?(hint:12 million new dems))
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To: conservative4
I just got off the phone with Kay Bailey Hutchinson's Houston office and talked with the phone-monkey.

I told him that it sounded like KBH was getting onboard with this Amnesty Bill with her proposed amendment last week.

He told me she would not support the bill as it is now.

...for whatever that says and is worth.

5 posted on 06/18/2007 7:34:58 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: conservative4

Once again....we don’t need any Bill. Enforce the laws on the books. If they can’t do that, they can’t enforce any new laws and probably don’t want to. They are making it so complicated that no one could follow it.


6 posted on 06/18/2007 7:35:30 AM PDT by RC2
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To: conservative4

We can’t deport 12 million illegals. (Lie)
illegals do jobs Americans wont do. (Lie)
Can’t build the Fence. (Lie)
And if you don’t believe me, I’ll have a hissy fit and cry.


7 posted on 06/18/2007 7:35:47 AM PDT by bullfeather (illegitimate non carborundum)
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To: conservative4

Die, you dastardly bill, die. Go down in flames twice! Die, die, die, die, die!


8 posted on 06/18/2007 7:36:58 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: conservative4
The sad fact is that our government has, since the 1986 amnesty, proved itself untrustworthy on border security and enforcement.

When it comes to our own "representatives", "trust but verify" doesn't work on this issue. We need to verify each individuals words and deeds before we can trust them.

9 posted on 06/18/2007 7:40:31 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: conservative4

bump


10 posted on 06/18/2007 7:49:51 AM PDT by VOA
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Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander's DC phone lines are NOT busy I just called and got right through...heat them up.

Sen. Lamar Alexander phone 202-224-4944 Fax 202-228-3398

Sen. Bob Corker phone 202-224-3344 Fax 202-228-0566

11 posted on 06/18/2007 7:50:53 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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12 posted on 06/18/2007 7:57:07 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: GailA

Got through to Corker..said I was disappointed that he was backing Hutchinson’s Amendment...

I was told that Corker is just waiting until the AMNESTY Bill is something he could vote for...

Havent got through to Alexander all morning...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

eeevil conservative is running for US Senate in GA...

And now I’ve gone from considering to announcing for Senate in TN....

:(


13 posted on 06/18/2007 8:16:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: TexasCajun
He told me she would not support the bill as it is now.

...for whatever that says and is worth.


I hate to sound cynical, but "now" it doesn't have her amendment in it. Add her amendment, and presto! perhaps she'll vote for it.

Tsk, tsk. I have great hopes that we can kill this thing, it will be constant work, but I really, really, don't think they can go against 80% of the population in the Internet/cell phone era.
14 posted on 06/18/2007 8:31:16 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: TexasCajun

Wiggle room, I see. Double speak. We don’t need any new admendments to a bill that should die right now. Enforce the laws we got.

Isn’t it illegal for our Congress to have secret meetings? Maybe we should be looking at it from that angle. How can you pass a new bill that was done in secret?


15 posted on 06/18/2007 8:43:08 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: GailA

Just called Sen Corker’s Chattanooga office (423)756-2757 again....

I was told Sen Corker is waiting until the AMNESTY Bill is something he could vote for...Tbhat the Bill is many pages long and the Sen has to read them all to know what is involved...

I told the lady what it was about...

She said you make it sound simple...There’s hundreds of pages...

I said it is simple..It’s AMNESTY for 25,000,000 illegal aliens...


16 posted on 06/18/2007 8:47:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: freekitty

“Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.”

Lord Acton 1861


17 posted on 06/18/2007 9:30:47 AM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Spoke to a guy at Corker’s office. For Alexander, they send you to the comments line.

Told the guy at Corker’s office I was part of the vast majority of Americans who wanted to protect our national security since 9-11 and would hope the Senator would vote no on cloture.

You really don’t need to declare the amnesty. Just tell them no on Z-visas and to enforce existing law and secure the border.

Or just saw you want the current law upheld and revisit the illegal alien question later.

Doing it calmly and without noting amnesty may have a better chance of being relayed. They are keeping a scorecard no doubt.


18 posted on 06/18/2007 9:37:41 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: bullfeather

If Bush is serious on the “war on terror” then why are ALL our borders WIDE OPEN and catering to ILLEGALS from ANY country? Bush has had TWO TERMS to show he is serious. He’s done NOTHING about our border security or WHO comes here ILLEGALLY.


19 posted on 06/18/2007 11:40:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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“If Bush is serious on the “war on terror” then why are ALL our borders WIDE OPEN and catering to ILLEGALS from ANY country? Bush has had TWO TERMS to show he is serious. He’s done NOTHING about our border security or WHO comes here ILLEGALLY.”

TRUTH!!!!


20 posted on 06/18/2007 12:16:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: conservative4

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


21 posted on 06/18/2007 1:20:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: rolling_stone

“Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.”

Lord Acton 1861

good quote


22 posted on 06/19/2007 1:25:47 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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