Posted on 06/19/2007 7:09:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA
WASHINGTON — GOP negotiators of an immigration reform bill are crafting a large border security amendment with mandatory, immediate funding that they hope will assuage concerns of both Republicans and Democrats, FOX News has learned.
The senators are looking at a way to please conservatives who are skeptical Congress will ever fund the bill's border security provisions, as well as keep Democratic negotiators on board in a last ditch effort to save the comprehensive reform bill.
It is a political tightrope fraught with peril, but the members know they need more Republican support to break through the logjam.
South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, a principle author of the amendment with Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and Mel Martinez, says his amendment is designed to be "a confidence builder" to address members' concerns that ramped up border security provisions in the bill won't, in the end, get funded.
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Not going to work — Build the fence on both borders first so when you deport illegals they stay deported. We also need a virtual fence that is under surveillance 24/7 so INS can immediately send agents to anywhere on the fence where there is a breach.
Maybe Bush/Rove and some others can get away with pandering to the illegals, but they can forget the rest of us. We are not buying.
Don’t want to hear about anything but securing the border and identifying the illegals. Excuse me but they have not done a good job of building the fence right now so why would we listen.
1) BUILD THE FENCE
2) DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS - QUIT WHINING - GET TO WORK
3) ENFORCE ALL CURRENT LAW - NO NEW LAWS NEEDED
4) FINE / PROSECUTE EMPLOYERS BREAKING THE LAW
5) INCREASE / SUPPORT BORDER PATROL DOING THEIR JOBS
6) CONTINUE LEGAL IMMIGRATION
7) END THE ANCHOR BABY PROGRAM
This is the job I expect you to do (so do others). Thank you.
Let me be honest here. Yes, I want border security and interior enforcement, but even if these things come about, I really don’t want these 20+ million illegals made legal. I don’t want them here and especially the chain migration that they will produce, which could run into another tens of millions more sooner rather than later.
If we secure the border, provide interior enforcement and worker verification, most of these 20+ million will go home. If we need more workers, we already have guest worker programs that can be expanded.
Build the fence, in the bill which was signed LAST YEAR.
First.
When it’s done, then discuss amnesty.
Not the other way around.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
they’re-trying-an-end-around-run ping
Yup.
RECALL all these SOB's!!
If only it had a provision prohibiting effective immediate amnesty (probation) for 20 million illegals, it’d be perfect.
This is such a red herring. If funding were the problem, then the administration would already be implementing the border security measures that are already funded (e.g., building part of a fence, etc.). Since Bush is not doing that, it becomes clear that the problem is unwillingness to enforce our laws, not inability due to insufficient funds. Consequently, this appropriation is just an attempt to make this fraud of a bill merely a more expensive fraud. It makes me sick that they’re trying to sell us this lie with our own hard-earned dollars.
SSDD.
The sad part is they think we’re stupid enough to fall for it. Even after all the letters, faxes, phone calls and emails, all the discussion in the new and old media, they still think they can throw us an enforcement bone and we’ll run after it and scoop it up.
Not gonna work, Senators! You do not have our trust on this issue.
We no longer trust congress or our administration to enforce any immigration law..new or old. That means we must by democratic means replace them.
The desire by our establishment to import millions of unscreened, uneducated workers is an insult to all of us.
Help me folks. I’m not as smart as these RINOs.
In all this discussion about this $4.4 BILLION bribe to enhance border security, has anyone seen exactly what $4.4 BILLION will be spent on? I have looked everywhere, including Thomas, and I can’t find any specifics as to where this enormous pile of dollars will go. Maybe they will use it to print up millions of cardboard signs for the border saying “Please Don’t Enter”. Or maybe it will go to remodel Chertoff’s office. Probably it will go to the favorite companies of Harry Reid and Lindsey Graham to do endless studies on how one might secure the border.
Gosh, I wish I wasn’t so dumb.
Typical Beltway, myopic narcissism - as if the real "peril" is found in exposing themselves to political risk. Absent is any attention to the danger our country faces if they actually pass this monstrosity.
I include Trent Lott into that group too.
BS BS BS BS BS these guys are so full of BS
agreed - they repeatedly show they cannot be trusted
they must be voted out of office - they no longer serve the public interest
if they ever did ...
yes, and more of them, unfortunately ...
Lott really shot himself in the foot with his quash-free-speech talk the other day
That's what he seems to do best, every time he opens his mouth.
“Clay pigeon” amds are just sleigt of hand by lying scumbag pols.
Either way, they can both be sincere working as dishwashers at a roadside greasy spoon. They certainly do not belong in Washington as they don’t care about the American people.
(as I’m sure you agree)
Yikes. He’s probably been too close to McCain.
The problem with this $4.4 B is where the traitors intend to get it from!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852405/posts?page=161#161
The very claim of "immediate funding" is just one more, bald-faced lie on the way to a dishonest, fraudulent result.
Congressman Billybob
Latest article, "Bar Fight in the Blue Ridge: The Battle for NC 11"
I think McCain suffers a whole different pathology.
Congressman Billybob
Latest article, "Bar Fight in the Blue Ridge: The Battle for NC 11"
Not to worry.
Once this bill with its amendments gets to the Joint Committee, according to Senator Lott, they will take out most of the enforcement provisions.
Yeh, it is another hoodwinking of the American public.
Graham should be taken to the principal ... and thrown out of school ... along with his playground pals
Illegal immigration = financial support from corporations, and votes from 20 million constituents in exchange for the promise of more benefits paid for by fewer and fewer taxpayers.
If you think it's bad now, wait until the tax cuts are allowed to expire in 2011 while the AMT is not fixed. Suddenly, we'll have 2% of the population paying 75% of all Federal income taxes, and the top 5% of earners paying 90%. That's the plan, friend: increase the size of the Beneficiary Class so that the producers will be vastly outnumbered and politically impotent.
That's Congress, though. We need statesmen; and instead we have hustlers in $2000 suits.
I second your proposals!
As usual, he's aiming too low.
John / Billybob
yes, the chain migration is the main reason not to legalize them. How many more millions of people is that going to bring it automatically and what kind of strain is that going to be on our already taxed healthcare and school system. As many of the illegals as possible need to go home where they should be with their families and put needed pressure on their own country to improve economic conditions. That is never going to happen if we continue on this way.
It's a tax free and all cash business, what, anyone think the dealers don't share?
They’re just bringing in the illicit drugs that Americans are too lazy to manufacture [/sarc]
It’s an amendment - i.e. it’s tied to the other bill. It should be on it’s own.
Regarding the $4.4 billion:
How long will the fence be?
How high will the fence be?
Can you have it finished by Christmas?
Yeh, it is another hoodwinking of the American public.
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Last night, Hannity was doing a great job of pointing out the record low of popularity and job performance the Congress has with the American citizen now...and the reasons of CORRUPTION AND MALFEASANCE.
The Senate can’t spend a penny. That’s up to the House.
It will be too short, too small and too late.
The purpose is to spend money, preferably to contributors, to look like there is something going on, NOT TO GET ANY ACTUAL RESULTS THAT WILL ANNOY THE MEXICANS AND SLOW THE FLOW OF ILLEGALS.
“says his amendment is designed to be “a confidence builder” to address members’ concerns that ramped up border security provisions in the bill won’t, in the end, get funded.”
It’s already funded and at the rate they’re building it, Hunter says it will take 40 years.
Chertoff is just another OBL tool. Seems Bush has managed to surround himself with them.
This is the job I expect you to do (so do others). Thank you.
Well said.
Thanks!
take a look at this if you haven’t already ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852930/posts
Chertoff is just another OBL tool. Seems Bush has managed to surround himself with them.
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Based on what Bush is “getting away with” on this issue, he is surrounded by nothing but losers...certainly not American patriots and people with a respect for THE RULE OF LAW AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
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