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Duke deal shields faculty
News and Observer (Charlotte, NC) ^ | June 20, 2007 | Anne Blythe and Eric Ferreri, Staff Writers

Posted on 06/20/2007 2:53:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets

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To: gridlock

I was busy digging up the info while you were posting.


61 posted on 06/20/2007 6:29:37 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Kenton

Hmmm... just checking Wikipedia, it doesn’t have an entry yet for the Duke “Gang of 88”. Maybe that will become a little weekend project.


62 posted on 06/20/2007 6:32:11 AM PDT by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

the problem is this is NOT ATIPICAL.

This happens every single day in universities and prosecutorial offices.

(consider the Palm Beach Bar Complaint over thelimbaugh case, same identical media manipulations and no result)

also this prosecutor is just the poster child for charging anything in order to pressure a plea bargain. Force the defendant to choose between cost of defense to just getting back to what is left of their life.


63 posted on 06/20/2007 6:43:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gridlock

and used against them as an admission.

These professors were on a very serious hook.

They had no accademic first amendment protection.

This is not about duke protecting professors, this is about duke protecting duke.

The appology ad might not be admissible by the plaintiff but if the defendant introduces it in trial, the plaintiff can use it to show an admission of liability.

These professors will not be emboldened but this settlement and need for duke to get them off the hook is damning on their careers outside of the ivory tower.


64 posted on 06/20/2007 6:51:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
“A crime is a crime, I say.”... You’re jumping to conclusions.

If a crime is a crime it is a crime, I say...

65 posted on 06/20/2007 6:59:56 AM PDT by gridlock (Vote against Hillary so she can retire, dump Bill, and find love in the arms of a new man...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
As Duke shut the door on lawsuits by the players in the lacrosse case, the Durham County sheriff on Tuesday slammed shut District Attorney Mike Nifong's access to the courthouse where he has worked 29 years. Orlando Hudson, the county's chief resident Superior Court judge, entered an order suspending Nifong with pay.

With Pay!

And the 88 dirtbags walk free??

66 posted on 06/20/2007 7:01:46 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: gridlock
The report of the black student raping a white student at a party came out several months ago. It was verified at the time and came out in many publications.

Cordio

67 posted on 06/20/2007 7:53:22 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: Cordio

Wadda I hafta do? Scarify myself?


68 posted on 06/20/2007 7:56:57 AM PDT by gridlock (Vote against Hillary so she can retire, dump Bill, and find love in the arms of a new man...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Duke's faculty chairman, Paul Haagen, informed professors that one provision is that all faculty members have been released from liability related to the lacrosse case.

Any legal types on this morning?

This makes no sense to me. Duke didn't officially direct the 88 faculty members to do what they did. How could Duke legally cover for them? Is it just a matter of choice, that Duke can do so just because they chose to?

69 posted on 06/20/2007 7:56:58 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: gridlock

“It is the only way out of this mess.”

Evidently not.


70 posted on 06/20/2007 8:09:00 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: TChris
They did it as faculty of and as representing Duke University, not simply as individuals. It was the only likely action that Duke was liable for. Duke's probable liability stems from the "approval" of the statement that was apparent when they were not denounced. Others have mentioned internal memos from "high ups" at Duke which seem to have encouraged and supported the 88 and their statement.

Whether you think each as an individual was in some way financially liable does not matter. Duke knew any legal action would be against them, the one with the hundred million+ dollar endowment, not individuals who likely have limited assets.

The faculty were clear that they were representing Duke in the statement, and given Duke's inaction and the appearance of agreement, likely made them liable.

But I doubt each family got that much money, really.
71 posted on 06/20/2007 8:22:02 AM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It’s just as well the faculty was shielded....no way a white kid could win in a Durham court....they don’t call it “brown town” for nothing....no way a black jury would award those boys a cent....they still believe a rape happened and the white estblishment covered it up.

.....and BTW those guys might have come from prosperous families but they were there on SCHOLARSHIPS!!!....that means they worked their asses off to get that good...it had nothing to do with family circumstances....nobody says a black kid who plays for Coach K is “privledged” because he plays at Duke....the kid spent years practicing/playing to get to that level....he’s an elite athlete.


72 posted on 06/20/2007 8:24:30 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: sgtbono2002
Romance studies???

When you say things like this you make conservatives appear both ignorant and stupid. Romance studies means romance languages and literature, i.e. french, spanish, portuguese, italian, romanian, and various dialects thereof. It is a serious academic subject and you do your cause and ours no good by sneering.

73 posted on 06/20/2007 8:26:32 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

>>As Duke shut the door on lawsuits by the players in the lacrosse case...<<

This is a very poorly written article!

I was unaware that a university had the legal authority to prevent citizens from filing law suits against other private individuals. That IS what the above statement alleges.


74 posted on 06/20/2007 8:35:05 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: gridlock

I agree hate crimes are complete crap!


75 posted on 06/20/2007 8:36:28 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: alexander_busek

“I was unaware that a university had the legal authority to prevent citizens from filing law suits against other private individuals. That IS what the above statement alleges.”

If the university makes a shield integral to the settlement, and you sign on the bottom line, then they are simply holding you to the terms of the contract, which you signed.


76 posted on 06/20/2007 8:45:05 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Article makes the vile Paula McClain sound like the victim here...... she IS one of the “Duke 88” who poured gasoline on the fire, and now she’s gotten herself promoted to a very senior spot in the ranks of Duke faculty. Not only are the Duke 88 not going to suffer the slightest punishment, but at least one of their number is rising high in the ranks of Duke’s faculty. What a fetid PC cesspool Duke is.....


77 posted on 06/20/2007 9:12:45 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: true_blue_texican

That is perfectly correct usage.

Modulate can mean “tone down”.


78 posted on 06/20/2007 9:18:56 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("Mom, I'll be old enough to vote for Fred when he runs for his second term." -My Son. (I'm proud))
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To: gcruse

>>If the university makes a shield integral to the settlement, and you sign on the bottom line, then they are simply holding you to the terms of the contract, which you signed.<<

Yes, yes... It simply galled me that the article was unable to make it abundantly clear that the falsely accused students had reached a mutual agreement with the university. This talk of “shutting the door” is graphic, but misleading.


79 posted on 06/20/2007 9:28:14 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: AndyJackson

Well Pardon me for my ignorance.

I am also sorry you are humorless.

I see now how serious the study of the so called Romance languages is. I can see where they are an absolute necessity to getting a good paying job.


80 posted on 06/20/2007 9:31:30 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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