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To: Seven_0
You quote Hebrews 12:1 and then give only examples of things that can be seen. It is the things that cannot be seen that requires faith.

You are correct. My intention is, if we have not seen it with our own eyes, touched it with our own hands, or otherwise have had first hand experience of it, we are taking someone else's word on it, and accepting that word on faith.

Jesus, claiming to be God in the flesh, backed his claims with miracles, and with the resurrection. However, since we can't verifiably prove this either way, it requires faith.

The assassination of Lincoln is the same. We can only go off of the historical evidence, and choose to accept or deny it.

When I download images from the Hubble telescope website, I believe they were actually taken by a telescope in orbit above the earth, of objects far, far away. However, I can't prove this conclusively to one determined to disbelieve, I can only cite the evidence for which I believe it. I have faith in the veracity of the claims of those who post the image, an thus in the validity of the images themselves. However, I have never touched the Hubble myself, have not verified it is in space, nor that it was not in fact focusing on a pretty picture drawn by an artist in Nevada. Of course, I like you, believe it is there. Whether or not someone feasibly could "touch it" or not is moot, for I can't.

95% of what we believe, we have never proven to ourselves as true, we have simply took someone else's word for it.

124 posted on 06/21/2007 12:34:22 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray
Jesus, claiming to be God in the flesh, backed his claims with miracles, and with the resurrection. However, since we can't verifiably prove this either way, it requires faith.

Even if we could verify it, and we can, it requires faith. You see faith is the beginning and knowledge is added to faith. (2 Pet 1:5 ) We should not expect faith to be added to knowledge. Even Thomas, who saw Christ and believed, had to take the promise by faith. The promise cannot be seen, but is confirmed by evidence.
145 posted on 06/22/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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