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Cause for Concern In Chinese Bulbs?
Washington Post ^ | June 20, 2007 | Sue Kovach Shuman

Posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:15 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

...Most of us buy garlic at a supermarket. We don't know what kind it is, how fresh it is or where it's grown. But there's a good chance it comes from China, which produces 75 percent of the world's supply...

Garlic is the United States' biggest fresh-vegetable import from China, which sent us 138 million pounds of it worth more than $70 million last year. We also get small amounts from Mexico, Argentina and about 15 other countries. We eat a lot of garlic -- about three pounds per person a year.

Although most of our fresh garlic comes from halfway around the world, it's cheaper than garlic grown in California...

Fresh garlic isn't the only form of the vegetable causing concern. The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Foreign Agricultural Service says dehydrated Chinese garlic imports increased 384 percent in the past 10 years. The AWF's report, based on independent lab tests, found "high levels of lead, arsenic and added sulfites in two supermarket-brand imported garlic powders"...

FDA inspectors refused 298 food shipments from China in the first four months of this year...

The FDA said it could not provide information on detention and refusal rates of Chinese produce and how they compare with those for other countries. But FDA records show that since 1994...numerous shipments from several companies -- five Chinese, one Canadian and one Argentine -- were refused because of insects or insect damage, mold or filth between 1994 and 1996. The Canadian firm had repacked Chinese garlic and shipped it, peeled, in five-pound jars. Thirteen fresh garlic shipments from China were refused at California ports...

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KEYWORDS: garlic; importedfood; toxicchina
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Great. Now I have to find out where my garlic comes from.
1 posted on 06/20/2007 9:35:16 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
That's it. My innocence is officially lost.
2 posted on 06/20/2007 9:39:54 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Bacon is the only thing that keeps me sane.)
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To: 3AngelaD
The AWF's report, based on independent lab tests, found "high levels of lead, arsenic and added sulfites in two supermarket-brand imported garlic powders"...
Farbles, which is what I say in lieu of the "F" word because I have a toddler daughter who repeats everything I say. I love garlic. I use it in everything. I probably have so much lead and and other heavy metals in my system that I could spit ball bearings. Thank you, China. Sigh. It's the local and organic aisle for me from now on.
3 posted on 06/20/2007 9:41:02 AM PDT by Asclepius (the admin moderator ordered me to "lose" my tagline.)
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To: 3AngelaD

My local upscale market had garlic on sale a year or so ago. They displayed it in boxes clearly marked Product of China. No one went near the stuff. Now we’re getting it in jars marked Product of Canada?


4 posted on 06/20/2007 9:42:04 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

The only safe way to evaluate food is “Produced in U.S.A.”.


5 posted on 06/20/2007 9:42:33 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: 3AngelaD; Admin Moderator

I wish you could add the word GARLIC to the headline, as Bulbs might just as well refer to light bulbs. Thanks


6 posted on 06/20/2007 9:44:16 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 3AngelaD
FDA inspectors refused 298 food shipments from China in the first four months of this year...

Unless the Feds have cracked down on port shopping, that doesn't necessarily mean that those shipments didn't make it into this country....

7 posted on 06/20/2007 9:44:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: 3AngelaD

Grow your own - it’s easy.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 9:45:00 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-
The Perfect British Bacon Sandwich

I happened to read your tagline. (No garlic in it.)
9 posted on 06/20/2007 9:45:36 AM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: Veto!

Oh, I agree. But if I change the headline for clarity, I run the risk of punishment by the Gods of AdminMod. I still have scars from the last time I accidently transgressed, and I am still going around in sack cloth and ashes, to the bewilderment of my family.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 9:50:25 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

Me too! I love garlic and use alot!


11 posted on 06/20/2007 9:50:31 AM PDT by Cricket24 (ULTRA PATRIOT!!)
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To: yoe

I don’t have enough yard to grow the amount of garlic I eat.


12 posted on 06/20/2007 9:51:32 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

We need to push for country of origin/manufacturing labeling. It is the only way we can keep our family safe from this sort of thing. It is only logical that countries that routinely poison their own people and place no value on human life are going to manufacture everything as cheaply as possible with no regard to product safety.


13 posted on 06/20/2007 9:53:56 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: 3AngelaD

http://www.naturalhub.com/grow_vegetable_type_garlic.htm

Looks pretty easy to grow your own.


14 posted on 06/20/2007 9:54:29 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: Veto!

Bulbs might just as well refer to light bulbs.


Or tulips and daffodils.


16 posted on 06/20/2007 9:55:41 AM PDT by Beelzebubba (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney (...and another "Constitution-bot"))
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To: Sundog

Bacon Butties! A little bit of heaven. If you are really, really bad, you fry the white bread in the bacon grease before composing your butty. But plain old toast would do.


17 posted on 06/20/2007 9:56:20 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
I have wild garlic growing on my property. I’ve never picked any of it but may this year.
18 posted on 06/20/2007 9:59:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: 3AngelaD
I'll pass this around, but garlic from Gilroy ("Garlic Capitol of the World") CA is always available in our stores...
19 posted on 06/20/2007 10:00:39 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: nyconse

“We need to push for country of origin/manufacturing labeling.”

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!
Oh gee... just a sec... let me wipe the tears from my eyes.
Ok... I’m not laughing at you. You are just stuck where I was before the immigration mess. I once thought we had a government that cared, or that we could make respond to us mere citizens.

No way. Forget it. The Chinese lobby will crush that idea like it was a bug.


20 posted on 06/20/2007 10:00:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: 3AngelaD

You need to use the original headline so when people do a search they’ll find it and avoid duplicate posts.

But I think you can add to it in parentheses, for instance, something like this:

Cause for Concern In Chinese Bulbs? (garlic)

This concerns me, because we love garlic, and I also take garlic as a supplement. Good grief.


21 posted on 06/20/2007 10:01:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: brownsfan

Unfortunately, you may be correct. I am thinking of starting a website where information about where products are manufactured would be available. For example, I found out today that colgate toothpast is manufactured in China. I called Colgate and noticed their message said (in regards to tainted toothpast) that they had never manufactured in South Africa, but the didn’t say where they manufactured. I googled it-not hard. They manufacture in China.


22 posted on 06/20/2007 10:05:15 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

This is what I’ll be buying for sure.


23 posted on 06/20/2007 10:05:59 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: 3AngelaD

This is a major part of why I love living in central California. We don’t get nearly as much of this junk import food as the rest of you. My garlic comes from Gilroy, my tomatos were grown just south of Modesto, my peaches come from Patterson, my corn was grown in the Delta, and my almonds were grown in the orchard just up the road from my house. Since shipping costs aren’t a factor, American food tends to be cheaper here than the import cr*p. I like knowing that I can drive 5 minutes and watch my food being grown too.

I would never live anywhere that didn’t have a good local farmers market.


24 posted on 06/20/2007 10:06:23 AM PDT by Arthalion
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To: 3AngelaD

I was just telling someone that we may have to begin growing our own vegetable gardens, or rely on local farmer’s markets for vegetables. I use lots of garlic powder and onion powder, etc. *sigh*

We will be having to raise and slaughter our own meat next, or hire it done, I guess.


25 posted on 06/20/2007 10:11:10 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Arthalion

I agree, and shop in my local farmer’s market in Del Ray (Alexandria) on Saturday. My slogan is “Buy local as much as possible.” Farmer’s markets are springing up all over the DC metro area. But some times you have to go the grocery store, my farmer’s market has produce, no dairy, and you are at their mercy. I shop mostly at my local organic food store, where I get the garlic of unknown origin, and only go to Giant for detergent, paper towels and that kind of stuff.


26 posted on 06/20/2007 10:12:50 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

I was gonna say the ‘xact same thing. And I use tons of the stuff. I wonder, is it difficult to grow?


27 posted on 06/20/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: 3AngelaD

I was at the local supermarket the other day and they had a large bag of garlic bulbs (about 8 bulbs) for 99 cents. Yes I bought it and I just tossed it in the can. The bag read “Packed in Florida.” So where was it grown? Morale of the story:if it’s dirt cheap it’s crap from China.


28 posted on 06/20/2007 10:14:58 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: glorgau

“Produced in U.S.A.” - I don’t mind paying more if it is produced in my country, but I don’t even get a choice for a lot of things any more. Plus, the “producers” are making harder and harder to know. Grocery stores used to have signs where all the produce came from, but mine doesn’t any more. I need to have a talk with them.


29 posted on 06/20/2007 10:17:52 AM PDT by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: yoe
Grow your own - it’s easy.

Any tips? Is it too late to plant it in the N.E.?

30 posted on 06/20/2007 10:29:18 AM PDT by montag813
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To: 3AngelaD

I am going to start raising in my garden. A little will last a long time.


31 posted on 06/20/2007 10:35:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Great. Now I have to find out where my garlic comes from.

Yeah. I like the convenience of the crushed bottled garlic, but maybe it's back to fresh. Even if it comes from China, the fresh kind probably doesn't have lead and sulfites on it. I could be wrong. jeesh.

32 posted on 06/20/2007 10:40:29 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: 3AngelaD

I never buy that peeled garlic in jars—it’s just not right!

I will stock up at the local Farmer’s Market this summer. There’s a guy there that sells those long strands of garlic bulbs. One of those lasts all through fall, winter, and spring.


33 posted on 06/20/2007 10:40:33 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: radiohead

I am a purist. I buy it in bulbs and peel and crush as needed. Tedious, smelly, but ultimately my food tastes better. I make my own salad dressing and mayonaise, and the fresh garlic is essential.


34 posted on 06/20/2007 10:44:38 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Veto!
Now we’re getting it in jars marked Product of Canada

Couldn't a Canadian company buy the product from China and process/package it themselves and stick on the "Made in Canada" label? I've wondered this since the poisonous South African toothpaste was labeled from South Africa but could have originated in China. And come to think of it there's nothing official about the "Made in China" label is there? Couldn't Chinese companies just print "Made in Canada" so people won't avoid their products? Are they legally obligated to tell the truth where the product originates?
35 posted on 06/20/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by weef
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To: weef

The garlic powder I have on my shelf “Tone’s” says “Product of the USA and China”! Damn!


36 posted on 06/20/2007 11:01:29 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: martin_fierro

I thought the worlds supply of garlic was from Gilroy.


37 posted on 06/20/2007 11:03:35 AM PDT by Clam Digger (Donate to the RNC - in pesos.)
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To: Veto!

If we get light bulbs from China, and we probably do, some of them are probably cause for concern, too.


38 posted on 06/20/2007 11:11:49 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Clam Digger
Although most of our fresh garlic comes from halfway around the world, it's cheaper than garlic grown in California...

"¡NO AJO!"

39 posted on 06/20/2007 11:12:59 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 3AngelaD
Look for "Christopher's" brand, it's made right here in Gilroy California.
40 posted on 06/20/2007 11:13:12 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (***Your own healing is the Greatest Message of Hope to others!***)
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To: Veto!
as Bulbs might just as well refer to light bulbs. Thanks

That's what I thought it was about. ;)

41 posted on 06/20/2007 11:16:06 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: 3AngelaD

And the beat goes on.


42 posted on 06/20/2007 11:19:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Red_Devil 232
The garlic powder I have on my shelf “Tone’s” says “Product of the USA and China”! Damn!
I used to work for a "Tone's" outfit like 10 years or so ago. They were just starting to look at getting Chinese garlic. I asked one of the experts that went to the different locations, scouting out farms to get the product from. He said it was not as hot a garlic as Gilroy's. I worked at a onion/garlic dehydration plant. The stuff that eventually gets packaged as chopped, minced and power form that you get in the little bottles. They would mix in part chinese, part 'normal' garlic. The chinese garlic would soak up from the 'normal' garlic, so you get more product with using less 'normal' garlic. I tasted both, raw, and there is a difference that is quite noticeable.
But that was 10+ years ago, not been near that job since, and who knows what they are doing with it now. My wife sometimes asks me to put garlic in food, she knows I am just gonna put in way too much, since I can't really taste how much I put in. I was only around it for 3 years, and still have a hard time smelling it. But I love it.
43 posted on 06/20/2007 11:48:26 AM PDT by AJMaXx (ILU Roo.....!)
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To: 3AngelaD; nyconse; mom4kittys
I shop mostly at my local organic food store

I am thinking of starting a website where information about where products are manufactured would be available.

There are no guarantees that your local organic food store isn't stocking stuff grown or manufactured in China or other questionable place. I just surfed around for a couple of hours, discovered that some American "health product" companies are attending the Natural Products Asia Conference in Hong Kong at the end of this month. One of the notable sponsors of the event is United Natural Foods, Inc, arguably the largest distributor of health food (fresh and packaged)to stores in the USA. Click around the conference site and see what you come up with. http://www.naturalproductsasia.com/eng_press.php

I particularly enjoyed the link to "QAI, Quality Assurance International Provider of independent, third party certification of organic food systems." They're a little corporation in San Diego that apparently sets and checks quality stndards for organic foods. They were recently acquired by NSF, a larger quality assurance corporation. Who are these people and why should we trust them?

As for starting a web site giving country of origin of all product ingredients, great idea. Sounds like a fulltime job for several people, however. Can you get a sponsor?

Free Republic is certainly changing, and I'm proud that it is no longer a rubberstamp organization for corporate America. A longtime dedicated capitalist, I'm horrified at what our system is now tolerating. I'm thinking of ways I can help create some kind of consumer outrage groundswell that might be heard in Washington. Perhaps our small but mighty "Get out of Cheney's House" contingent might be steered in new directions?

44 posted on 06/20/2007 11:54:03 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: AJMaXx

Very interesting. I buy dry garlic “beads” in bulk at my local semi-natural food market. Not as good as raw garlic, but tasty and quick. I’ll have to ask them to check their source for country of origin. They’re pretty conscientious.


45 posted on 06/20/2007 11:59:24 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: 3AngelaD

A flavor to tantalize my own British heart.


46 posted on 06/20/2007 12:15:39 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: SweetCaroline

Reading the cited article ... even the Gilroy proucers use the Chinese garlic in their processed garlic products. It is cheaper!


47 posted on 06/20/2007 12:41:54 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Veto!

Which of course means it could STILL be from China the way that FDA requires products to be marked. FDA...hello...you need to fix this mess you have gotten us into!


48 posted on 06/20/2007 12:44:01 PM PDT by applpie
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To: 3AngelaD

Thank God and Troy-Bilt, that I can expand the garden.


49 posted on 06/20/2007 12:46:26 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: AJMaXx
Thanks for the great info! After working at a plant like that I can understand your desensitization to garlic. I love it and only used fresh for years to flavor food. Just startd to use the powdered form because I tended to realy over do the fresh. Did the company you worked for use a powdered product from China to mix with the USA garlic or did you dehydrated fresh bulbs from china?
50 posted on 06/20/2007 12:58:25 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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