Posted on 06/20/2007 6:47:14 PM PDT by bnelson44
They collapsed. I have two good eyes and that is what happened.
Point taken but we are in a age of feelings not meaning.
I’ll have to read that book.
The people who claim LBJ killed Kennedy are exactly the same as the ones who claim Bush dropped the Twin Towers. Some Freeper who makes their living as a shrink could probably name the mental illness.
None of these studies touch on the fact that the Port Authority of NY and NJ did not apply the fireproofing properly. Had it been installed correctly, maybe things would have turned out a little different, maybe the towers would have stood a little longer, allowing more people to escape. They’d have fallen anyway most likely, but extra minutes would have went a long way in lives saved....
It really disappoints me the number of JFK conspiracy kooks there are here at FR.
geez, the way you word it, it almost sounds like you want MORE conspiracy kooks, heheh....
When construction of the World Trade Center began, its design called for an insulating coating on the steel support beams. The coating’s purpose was to delay heating of the beams in case of a fire, providing an estimated four hours for evacuation and fire fighting before the beams weakened to the point of structural collapse.
This insulating coating contained asbestos. Following the EPA’s lead, New York City outlawed asbestos while the Trade Center was still under construction. As a result, the coating was not used on the upper floors of the towers. An asbestos-free substitute was used, one which was inadequate according to some designers.
Engineers were surprised when the towers collapsed so soon after terrorists crashed planes into both. It may be that the collapses would have been delayed further were it not for the ban on asbestos. Any delay, of course, would have saved even more lives.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/opinion/opinion2001-06.html
Read it and weep....I wonder if families have a claim agaist the EPA...
Ill have to read that book.
The people who claim LBJ killed Kennedy are exactly the same as the ones who claim Bush dropped the Twin Towers. Some Freeper who makes their living as a shrink could probably name the mental illness.
I don’t know if he’s a Freeper, but “Liberalism is a mental disorder” by Michael Savage seems to fit.
I read a book called “102 Minutes” that recreates what was going on inside the building based on witnesses, phone calls, etc. Throughout the book there were chapters on the construction, insulation, limited number of stairwells, stair width, etc. The Towers were the first in the all-steel construction (as opposed to the older concrete construction of the Empire State Building, etc.).
VERY interesting book from both the personal accounts and the engineering stanpoints. Also lots of history about the police/fire communications problems, etc.
You’re right. It is very disappointing. The scary thing is they quote Oliver Stone.
Given their over-regulation and the government's penchant to apply a hammer to a loose screw, I would think that we all have a claim against the EPA for some reason or another.
The people above were trapped. Could they have made it to the roof and been rescued by helicopters? Perhaps if we had a way to fight the fires, rather than having to watch them burn, the extra time would have made a difference. How about foam-spraying booms on helicopters?
The kooks are going insane this morning over this....(chuckle)
Its tense in mommies basement all over the country.
(chuckle)
No surprise, its become the single biggest kook site on the net recently.
‘If I recall, USA Today looked at who survived and who didn’t. Most everyone below the impact points got out and most everyone above them died.”
Yep.
” Don’t know if better insulation would have saved any lives. Maybe the firefighters would have gotten out before they fell.”
Maybe.
“The people above were trapped. Could they have made it to the roof and been rescued by helicopters?”
Nope. No place to land, and the winds were way to high for them to approach.
‘Perhaps if we had a way to fight the fires, rather than having to watch them burn, the extra time would have made a difference. How about foam-spraying booms on helicopters?’
Because tens of thousands of jet fuel were violently inserted into the core of the buildings, it wouldn’t have made any difference.
What is Libertypost?
There's no evidence he's a Freeper, but Charles Krauthammer (former shrink) already did it - "Bush Derangement Syndrome".
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