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A third US carrier, USS Enterprise Strike Group is speeding towards the Persian Gulf
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Posted on 06/21/2007 5:16:59 AM PDT by jhpigott

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To: Eric in the Ozarks
“Just wondering if the guided missile cruiser Gettysburg is like the cruiser Long Beach (now scrapped.)”

No, they’re very different.

Long Beach was the only ship in her class. She was nuclear and designed to steam with Enterprise. I think she had a couple of 2 armed bandits. A fine ship, at the time.

Gettysburg is a Ticonderoga class CG. The bulk of those ships were built in the 80’s. They’re fitted with 4 LM2500 gas turbines. They’re the first AEGIS ships equipped with SPY-1 phased array radar. Early ships were fitted with 2 armed bandits then later upgraded to VLS MK-41.

The Arleigh Burke DDG’s are the latest AEGIS ships and they make up the bulk of our surface ships. Nice upgrades from the Tico’s and all steel hull and superstructure.

81 posted on 06/21/2007 1:06:14 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: ryan71

I checked Gettysburg’s webpage and saw that she was a gas turbine. I don’t know that the Long Beach was a one of a kind cruiser tho. Curious that the US would move away from nuke power to jetfuel... Probably cost or the reactor.


82 posted on 06/21/2007 1:16:50 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: jhpigott

I’m sure Bush is sending them over there carrying really, really, really stern letters to Iran that we are getting mad!


83 posted on 06/21/2007 1:19:15 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican party is dead! Let's start over. Nevermind, what's the point?)
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To: blam
Speeding?

A rather leading term, eh?

84 posted on 06/21/2007 1:27:11 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: AmericaUnited
Can any sea dogs put that into landlubberease?

1 Carrier (CVN)
1 Air Wing (80 Aircraft or so)
1 Ticonderoga (CG)
4 Arleigh Burke (DDG)
1 Ammo Ship
2 Attack sub

Lots of Land Attack Tomahawks, if so equipped.

85 posted on 06/21/2007 1:29:12 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: blam
Speeding and it hasn't even left port in Virginia yet!

imagine how fast it will be when it gets underway!

86 posted on 06/21/2007 1:29:13 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: jhpigott
Their mission is to provoke Iran, then smash them up a bit.

That's part of a larger goal of politically subduing them. Should that fail, expect a full blockade of all Iranian ports and the destruction of all Iranian pipelines...and the destruction of any refining capacity.

Should the Iranians shoot in earnest or try to close the Gulf, they'll be decapitated while the blockade continues.

We have the ability to drive this to closure through blockade and regime decapitation...which includes the destruction of all Iranian military assets.

87 posted on 06/21/2007 1:37:02 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: ryan71

I was really wondering what “sustainment exercises” were?


88 posted on 06/21/2007 1:54:36 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Vermont Lt
There is no way the US will put 3 carriers battle groups in the Gulf.

Any additions will be in the Red Sea, Arabian Sea and/or Indian Ocean. We'll cover our backsides...just incase somebody with the ability to put a ship to sea gets any funny ideas.

Besides, it's important to DEMONSTRATE that we can project power anywhere in the world with impunity...not just that we were not opposed, but that we could not be opposed.

89 posted on 06/21/2007 1:56:01 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: jhpigott

Good night! Time for the popcorn.


90 posted on 06/21/2007 1:57:27 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The Gettysburg is shorter than the Long Beach...slightly less displacement.

the Gettysburg is FAR superior in controlling the airspace around the battlegroup.

91 posted on 06/21/2007 2:02:56 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: chilepepper
Enterprise Returns to Sea Story Number: NNS070523-16 Release Date: 5/23/2007 6:07:00 PM By Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Jen Crenshaw, USS Enterprise Public Affairs USS ENTERPRISE, At Sea (NNS) -- The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65) (Big E), got underway May 22 following about one week in its homeport at Naval Station Norfolk. During their in port period, Big E hosted a change of command ceremony for Commander, Fleet Forces Command, and held its own change of command ceremony for its new Commanding Officer, Capt. Ron Horton. For the next few weeks, Enterprise, along with embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1 will be conducting carrier qualifications, maintaining combat readiness for its upcoming surge deployment. The Navy’s Fleet Response Plan depends on its ships’ ability to deploy at any given moment to anywhere in the world. According to Horton, the Enterprise and its air wing is determined and dedicated to supporting combat operations and winning the global war on terrorism. “With the Fleet Response Plan, we will get to the fight faster, keep operational readiness high and rapidly respond to every call,” Horton said. “We will increase the operational availability of our forces through the continued commitment and resourcefulness of our highly capable Sailors and Marines.” The Big E is the centerpiece of the Enterprise Carrier Strike Group, which also includes the guided-missile destroyers USS Arleigh Burke (DDG 51) and USS Stout (DDG 55), USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98), and USS James E. Williams (DDG 95); the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg (CG 64), the fast-attack submarine USS Philadelphia (SSN 690) and the fast-combat supply ship USNS Supply (T-AOE 6). In addition to being the flagship of the strike group, Enterprise is also the home to CVW-1. The air wing is comprised of the “Checkmates” of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 211 flying the F/A-18 Super Hornet; the “Knighthawks” of VFA 136; the “Sidewinders” of VFA-86; the “Thunderbolts” of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 251 all flying the F/A-18 Hornet. Also joining CVW-1 are the “Dragonslayers” of Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron (HS) 11 flying the SH-60 Seahawk; the “Rooks” of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 137 flying the EA-6B Prowler; the “Maulers” of Sea Control Squadron (VS) 32 flying the S-3B Viking; the “Screwtops of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 123 flying the E-2C Hawkeye; and the “Rawhides” of Fleet Logistics Support Squadron (VRC) 40 flying the C-2A Greyhound. ----------------------- Put to sea May 22nd. No news about it returning.
92 posted on 06/21/2007 2:10:16 PM PDT by couch1971 (Stupid People shouldn't breed.)
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To: bill1952
Secured from what?

I had to laugh. Good question.

93 posted on 06/21/2007 2:11:55 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: RexBeach

I thought that the Nimitz class were the biggest. I have read that the Big E is the fastest. Supposedly has four reactors and is a screaming meemee.


94 posted on 06/21/2007 2:14:41 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: AmericaUnited
I think it means doing whatever the hell we want.

When Qaddafi drew the line, we regularly crossed it.

95 posted on 06/21/2007 3:57:06 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: Mariner

Iran imports 100 percent of its gasoline and other refined petroleum products. A few weeks of blockade would do wonders.


96 posted on 06/21/2007 4:37:14 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Tallguy; Broker; RexBeach

It is longer:

Navy fact File
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=200&ct=4

General Characteristics, Enterprise Class
Displacement: 89,600 tons
Length: 1,101 feet 2 inches

General Characteristics, Nimitz Class
Approximately 97,000 tons
Length: 1,092 feet

USS Enterprise CVN-65
http://www.enterprise.navy.mil/


97 posted on 06/21/2007 10:01:04 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: jhpigott
“Just announced this morning that Egypt is hosting a peace conference with Israel, Palestinians (Abbas and co.) and Jordan, with the intent to isolate Hamas”

- Yes, I think Mubarek and other Middle Eastern despots recognize that Hamas is the tool of Iran in it’s attempt to radicalize the entire region. With Hamas now in Gaza, they are getting uncomfortably close to Egypt’s border and they could start to cause trouble for Mubarek at home. When Bush announced his plan to try and democratize the region, it’s obvious that Hamas was set up to try and resist the attempt.

98 posted on 06/22/2007 4:41:22 AM PDT by finnigan2
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