Posted on 06/21/2007 8:28:26 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
President Bush’s latest attempt to salvage the Immigration Bill has made it crystal clear that there is indeed a political class of those we elect, who blatantly ignore the wishes of the electorate. Despite the overwhelming outcry against the bill in its present form, the president and many members of Congress seem determined to pass a collection of glued-together agendas, which are far from being a comprehensive solution.
The Senate responded to the outcry by voting to not end debate, which prompted Senator Harry Reid, the Majority Leader, to pull the bill from the floor for the time being. That time being until the president can twist enough Republican arms to change their positions to vote with the Democrats. The president’s attempt to do so in spite of the public feedback has alienated and disappointed many people...
When the president and Congress seem to defy the public’s outcry, people are doubly frustrated and feel that it’s the political class against the working class, namely, those of us who work to pay taxes, which fund government, out-of-control spending and ill-constructed public policy.
The more we say no amnesty, the more they say it is not amnesty. The more we say border security first, the more they say we are working on it. The more we say no shortcut to citizenship, the more they say the Z-visa is not a short-cut. And the more we object to this version of the bill, the more they say we have to do something even if it is not perfect. There is a big difference between not perfect and not acceptable.
It is not acceptable to not enforce current laws. It is not acceptable to not properly secure the borders first. It is not acceptable to catch and release illegal criminals because local, state and federal authorities are not working together... It is not acceptable to allow millions and millions of illegal immigrants to add additional strain to our already strained health care and Social Security systems...
Our only practical response against the continuing abuse by the political class on the working class is to vote them out of office. But that takes time and we must be patient and persistent. The good news is that, within the political class, there are more partisan disagreements than agreements on other issues. This causes potential legislation to move very slowly through the process, while we try to elect candidates who will not disregard us once they are elected.
In the mean time, the working class has to continue to scream loud and long to at least mitigate some of the negative and unintended consequences of ill-constructed legislation. The public wants an immigration bill, but not one that appears to make a bad situation worse...The working class obviously sees some serious imperfections in the proposed Immigration Bill that the political class chooses to ignore. And once again, those imperfections would be at our expense.
Could've been a great Senator!
Herman Cain is fantastic.
BTTT
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I don't know that Cain will run again (I hope so), but both Ga. Senators should be scared - especially Chambliss who is up next year.
A strong conservative challenger could dump him in the primary, IMO. There is strong resentment, and that photo of him, Isakson and Ted The Swimmer Kennedy ain't going to help Saxby if he faces opposition.
It's not enough to defeat this bill. We then need to go after the shills for the bill.
Just sent to one US Senator. Intending to send it to the other.
(Remember, contact Democrat and Republican senators, alike.)
Chertoff can’t be impeached because he is not an elected official. But he should be replaced because he is obviously not up to this job. Did you see him on TV explaining that the reason the fence isn’t being built is that they have “engineering problems”? For pete’s sake, they can’t figure out how to build a fence? On the planet Oh-Yeah-Sure.
The Framers are turning over in their graves!
Not correct. Alcee Hastings was a judge and was impeached and removed from office prior to being elected a congresscritter.
From what I have read, cabinet-level officials can be impeached and removed from office.
Oh I am sure you are right.
Great idea...impeaching Chertoff for his efforts to hold enforcement hostage in order to get shamnesty and his failure to come up with a means to track visa overstays nearly six years after 9-11.
Agreed. Someone who is speaking for me and most of the people I know.
Chertoff needs to spend less time lobbying Congress for shamnesty and more time doing his job - except that he hasn’t done his job to date anyway. IMO he was the key problem in the federal response to Katrina. He only has excuses for being unable to track visa overstays. He bleats about needing more tools, but workforce sanctions were vastly higher under Clinton. He is a political hack that needs to be shoved out of office, given the National Security importance of his position.
No, he missed the whole point.
We don’t want any more immigration laws right now - we want them to enforce the ones we have, and to build the fence that was signed into law last year.
And don't forget DHS complicity in the prosecution of the BP Agents - where the DHS has now admitted lying.
I like Herman Cain. So far he is the only one I heard (besides me) who called Mitt Romney’s “MittCare” health-care plan as Socialist.
He can move to FL and run for Senate here. He would womp Sen. Illegal Alien (Mel Martinez) in a primary.
We can’t do anything about it. Only the Senate can impeach him, and I am not expecting Dirty Harry to bring this up anytime soon.
Could I run this by you all? (Too shy to post a vanity).
I am going to hand-deliver this letter to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s office Saturday.
Would welcome any suggestions!
Senator Hutchinson;
(I identify myself).I am very hesitant to write a letter to any politician but the immigration bill currently before the Senate, S-1639, is an utter betrayal of our sovereignty and in defiance of common sense. I urge you to abandon all support for this terrible mistake of a bill. There is no need for a new bill. I have yet to hear why enforcement of our present laws is not an option. No political figure has ever once explained to the American people why our present laws cannot be enforced, why they have never been enforced. It is as if all those words on paper were some sort of Scrabble or lines on a Bingo card, meaningless.
There are so many things wrong with this bill I won’t bore you with listing them; not the least of which will be massive document fraud if it is passed. But what is more serious is loss of faith in our elected representatives, the contempt and dismissal of United States sovereignty by those streaming across the border, the appearance – and the substance – of weakness, helplessness and irresolution of America’s politicians and bureaucrats. We seem to have become a country that passes laws and then cannot enforce them. A law is passed to build a fence and yet Chernoff, head of Homeland Security, complains that there are ‘engineering problems’ that cannot be overcome. It makes him sound faltering, doddering, enfeebled.
Meanwhile criminals and would-be terrorists continue to come across the border. We live with this threat. Members of Congress, the media, and the lobbyists do not.
Why should we believe recycled promises? Senator Hutchinson, the more new promises and new laws that are passed to cover up for twenty years of non-enforcement of perfectly adequate laws, the worse it gets; the more our Congress and country garner contempt and derision, from citizens and non-citizens alike. Senator, we have become laughable.
Make a stand against this bill, and for American honor, probity, trustworthiness. Enforce the present laws, close the border, stop identity theft by cancelling section 6103 of the Internal Revenue code, get serious. Language means something. It is not just noise. Our word must be our bond, there is no other way.
Yours,
In 1930, in the middle of the depression, Hoover Dam was built, using the primitive techniques of the day.
76 years later, with modern technology and equipment, we can’t build a damn fence?
If I could stop laughing long enough, I’d be crying over this stupid statement.
Just wondering ... what would keep citizens from building a fence? The law signed last October days a fence must be built and as I see it citizens must comply with the law. Build the fence then submit invoices to Bush for labor, equipment and materials. If he does not pay then put a lean on his property in Crawford.
Stupid statement made by Chertoff, not Angela.
Your letter is very good, however she won’t get past the 3rd line of your letter. So a letter more directly to the point will get her attention alot better. “Dear Mrs Hutchinson, this bill sucks & you suck if you vote for it. We can’t wait to vote you out of office if you vote for it.” Now that’s to the point where even a Politician can understand it.
I think it’s a great letter. (I’d correct the typo on the spelling of Chertoff’s name though)
I’ve emailed Kay a few times myself because I think she’s going wobbly on this issue. If she does, I won’t vote for her again and I still think she has ambitions to be governor.
Good letter. Make sure she knows you are from Texas, and where in Texas you live. I’d imail to her, as well as hand deliver.
ping
It's up to the conservative blogosphere to save it.
There is no freedom without sacrifice.
The U.S.A is the last hope for freedom and justice in the world .
Here is how they hope to destroy the U.S. and with it freedom:
Liberals and Bush want to turn the U.S.A into a socialist Venezuela or a 3rd world country with the passage of this Amnesty bill:
From the Washington Times: Amnesty Bill permits 193 million more aliens from the 3rd world
This is basically the same bill.
It still gives amnesty and the vote to 200 milion 3rd, illiterate 3rd world people.
This is so they can take our jobs, benefits, prosperity, land,liberty and country away.This country is our property.
This email list has the UPDATED emails of the top aides to all the Senators .
I just copied each paragraph block of emails and pasted it to my yahoo email "to:" box,
one of those paragraph blocks of emails at a time.
And it worked. If you want to email them all at once you can do it this way
You can also email just one top aide for a specific senator
if you want to by searching for the Senator's name and copying and pasting the email address.
The Senator's name is in the email address .
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Herman Cain for U.S. Senate.
I cannot think of a better replacement for Saxby.
As far as the president is concerned, I support him on all other issues, but I feel his conduct insofar as immigration is concerned, rises to an impeachable offense. Time to start talking about impeachment. It is also time to begin recall petitions for those who are in favor of this bill. Let’s get the idea across, that it will be the end of their political careers, if they try and ram this thing down our throats. The president’s inability to defend our borders, in my opinion, rises to the level of an impeachable offense.
Has Zell had anything public to say about the situation?I would love to hear from him.
Says Zell: Military shortages, Social Security crisis, and illegal immigration all linked to abortion
Friday, March 9, 2007, 12:12 PM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It hasn’t gotten widespread play yet, but former U.S. Sen. Zell Miller made a little news this week in Macon when he declared that abortion has contributed to the military’s manpower shortage, the Social Security crisis, and the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States.
“How could this great land of plenty produce too few people in the last 30 years? Here is the brutal truth that no one dares to mention: We’re too few because too many of our babies have been killed,” Miller said.
“Over 45 million since Roe v. Wade in 1973. If those 45 million children had lived, today they would be defending our country, they would be filling our jobs, they would be paying into Social Security,” the former Georgia governor said. “Still, we watch as 3,700 babies are killed every single day in America. It is unbelievable that a nation under God would allow this.”
Why don't we hire the illegals to build the fence from the Mexican side? There are plenty of them and it obviously is a job American's won't do. It will give them them money they are seeking and keep them out of our country at the same time.
LOL LOL !
Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!
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Zell Miller - a Democrat well to the right of Rudy Giuliani.
We all know Bush is a man who stands for what he believes regardless of polls.
This of course has been considered a great character attribute....when posters happen to agree with him.
You are wrong Jorge.
Bush is a front pure and simple. He is going to do whatever the people he fronts for want. He may have his own beliefs; but they don’t matter when graft is involved. And please don’t disillusion yourself into believing that graft does not play a huge part.
It is unfortunate that whatever is behind your reasoning that you will not allow yourself to have a really good and honest debate with people. Your tit for tat is really boring and has little value into what is going on.
Chertoff is worthless and should be dumped yesterday. Although that would accomplish nothing in a practical sense. He is doing exactly as instructed by his boss. As would his replacement.
That said, visa overstay thing is correct. Not that he would track them if he could. Nor does the government give a hoot. They are only interested in tracking American citizens for some reason.
My daughter was at a major [I won't tell you which] embassy in DC and held the post of State Department Liaison & Chief Protocol Officer. She dealt with a lot of visa issues. I've have heard lots of horror tales about the entire visa system. Two things that are real and serious:
1 -The obstacles placed in front of educated and skilled people from countries that are our allies are ridiculous and punitive. So much so that one could easily interpret the feds as not wanting skilled and educated people coming in.
2 -The system of (sort of) tracking visas after they expire is worthless. There is no national database and no coordination between state and federal authorities. The real surprise is that they find anyone that overstays a visa. So, what will happen to 12 million Z visas. Yep, you got it.
I can go to DU to read this sort of nonsense too.
Is there any reason why you do not have respect for anyone?
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