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Sarge Speaks on the Duke 88
Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 6/21/07 | Bob Parks

Posted on 06/21/2007 9:15:29 AM PDT by bocopar

Every now and then I get an email from a reader that puts a topic into words as good, if not better than I. This is one of those occasions.

Sarge57 sent me an account of a message sent to the "Concerned Duke Faculty", now affectionately known as the "Gang of 88". His letter was impassioned, but never rude or obscene. The response he received was telling....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: duke88; dukelax; dukerape

1 posted on 06/21/2007 9:15:31 AM PDT by bocopar
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To: bocopar

“No speaking truth to power here” LOL!

3 posted on 06/21/2007 9:23:22 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: bocopar

Duke Faculty web pages re this woman who responded to the writer:

4 posted on 06/21/2007 9:26:22 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: bocopar

My prayer is that good people will refuse to send their sons and daughters to these “prestigious” schools, as there are plenty of excellent colleges and universities out there to choose from these days.

Send the ELITES a message: We don’t like the garbage you thrust down our throats, so we’ve decided to use our power to send our children somewhere friendlier and that shows respect for others.

5 posted on 06/21/2007 9:27:50 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: bocopar
If you have time, leave a comment and rate this musical evisceration of Nifong. Send it on to people. This guys needs to be mocked until he leaves the state.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 9:27:53 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: bocopar
Paula McClain receives two critical e-mails from a black man from the South Side of Chicago and immediately reports him as guilty of "harassment"! (Since she attended Howard University she is presumably a black woman.)

The future of feminist/PC America: expression of any opinions displeasing to liberals can be punished as "harassment."

7 posted on 06/21/2007 9:28:31 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: bocopar

What was harsh about Sarge’s letter. It was clear concise and respectful. That he gloated a bit is acceptable...the Gang of 88 deserved it.

Typical liberals...They can dish it out, but can’t take it when the tables get turned.

8 posted on 06/21/2007 9:30:48 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I’m not sure if Sarge is black or not, and that’s not the issue here.

What is telling how the faculty went after a small group of students (who are customers) and when they were proven wrong, they can’t take one gazillionth of the heat they dished out. Only one out of the 88 responded.

Pussies, all of them.

9 posted on 06/21/2007 9:32:53 AM PDT by bocopar (Author's Response)
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To: bocopar

They sure are. It is astouding that out of 88, they only got the one response, which was no response at all!

It really speaks to their character, or lack thereof. And for Duke to give this woman a promotion is beyond belief.

10 posted on 06/21/2007 9:37:32 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Joann37

Let’s turn up the heat and see if we can’t do something about hers “promotion” and any other Gang of 88 promotions pending....

11 posted on 06/21/2007 9:40:44 AM PDT by bocopar (Author's Response)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Her webpage says it all. Here is a person who never spent a day in her life outside academia, and who is clearly not competent to train young minds as future productive citizens.

Don’t EVER send your kids to a university for a “liberal arts” education. Send them to learn a hard science or productive professional occupation, like physics, engineering or business. Of course those courses are hard, but, these “soft sciences” are rotting out our country from within, and this worthless arrogant airhead is leading the pack.

12 posted on 06/21/2007 9:44:36 AM PDT by henkster (The dems have reserved your place on the collective farm.)
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To: bocopar
How interesting that Ms. McClain could not respond to Sarge's comments. That she could only respond with clearly fabricated charges of "harassment" and "abusive and inappropriate language" speaks volumes about her and her lack of any defense for her own and the actions of the other 87.

If I were searching for a university to attend, Duke would not be on the list at all. The university has embraced the actions of these 88, as evidenced by the enhanced position this woman now holds. Students, beware. Duke will allow the same to happen to you. You represent income for the university to support faculty members like these.

13 posted on 06/21/2007 9:46:04 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: bocopar
Your continued messages have now moved into the realm of harassment and I have reported you to your service provider for using abusive and inappropriate language in your email which was sent through their servers.

Wow. Another lefty who can dish it out but can't take it.

14 posted on 06/21/2007 9:46:14 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: bocopar
Duke has no idea how much damage they have caused themselves here in N.C. and nationally for that matter. They'll only discover the full extent of the damage to their reputation as an educational institution in years to come. They did little more than buy themselves out of what should have been brought before the Courts; something that I’m sure Nifong couldn't afford as a mere District Attorney. Statewide and nationally, every parent is now wondering how their young college aged person would be treated by Duke if they were to choose them as a university and fall into similar circumstances. It's a risk that I believe NO parent is willing to take.

Given that the above consideration can only be answered by Duke's own recent actions, we can only come to one logical conclusion which is to leave them alone in the heap of moral ruins which they have become.

Unfortunately, the concensus among citizens here in N.C. is that Duke University is now lumped in with the likes of the Durham N.C. Chapter of the Black Panthers, the NAACP, and the "Shakedown Brothers" - Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton.

Furthermore, it goes without saying that the "intelligencia" comprising the Gang of 88 succumbed to a simple attempt of extortion by a whorish young woman who played them like a cheap fiddle. I'm quite certain though that in their cloistered and protected "land of academia" they won't realize this, and will continue to turn their noses at us peons who despise them now.

Feel free to direct Duke administrative personnel to this thread. I'm in N.C. quite close to Duke (two counties over), and have college aged kids. I think I speak for many people with what I've said.
15 posted on 06/21/2007 9:48:33 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: bocopar

If you read Sarge’s message, near the end he describes himself as a black man living in the South Side of Chicago.

16 posted on 06/21/2007 9:49:51 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: hiredhand
whorish young woman who played them like a cheap fiddle

outsmarts 88 of academia's finest. What's that say about the morons?

17 posted on 06/21/2007 9:56:37 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: bocopar

Looks like they’re trying to nifong Sarge.

I wonder who will 88 his response.

18 posted on 06/21/2007 10:02:01 AM PDT by bannie
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To: DoctorJim

Seems like they can dish it out but they can’t take it.

Typical Nanny state liberals

19 posted on 06/21/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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20 posted on 06/21/2007 10:06:30 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Ouderkirk
I guess that, by her standards, The Disgustingly-Transparent 88’s treatment of The Abused and Innocent Young Duke Men is harassment?

I seldom say this...


21 posted on 06/21/2007 10:09:49 AM PDT by bannie
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To: Verginius Rufus

My fiancee always gives me grief for being a “skimmer”

22 posted on 06/21/2007 10:13:30 AM PDT by bocopar (Author's Response)
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To: bocopar

Actually, my skin tone is sorta medium mocha, but “black” is good enuf for racial identity purposes. “African American” makes no anthropological sense. (But it’s PC)

23 posted on 06/21/2007 10:27:31 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: bocopar
WOW!!! Kudos to Sarge!

I particularly like his " racial grievance industry merchants" -- especially coming from a black man...

Sarge gets it!!!

24 posted on 06/21/2007 11:03:49 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Shery

“My prayer is that good people will refuse to send their sons and daughters to these “prestigious” schools, as there are plenty of excellent colleges and universities out there to choose from these days.”

Consider me and my two, soon to be three, college-aged children an answer to your prayers.

“Elite”, hideously overpriced schools were not even considered as potential destinations. This, as much for the ridiculous, anti-civilisation Leftist nonsense from lazy, cowardly professors as, for the utter and foolish waste of money.

25 posted on 06/21/2007 11:10:10 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: hiredhand; DMZFrank

Is Duke subject to the NC Public Records Act? If so, it would be quite interesting to demand all e-mails received by these 88 Faculty members pertaining to the Lacrosse team matter since the AG declared them innocent, and then publish them in the aggregate.

Public Records: Questions and Answers
North Carolina Department of Justice Attorney General Roy Cooper
1. What is the public policy regarding public records?
The North Carolina General Assembly has declared as a matter of public policy that the public records and public information compiled by
agencies of North Carolina government or its subdivisions are the property of the people.
N.C.G.S. § 132-1(b)
2. What are public records?
Public records are documentary materials that are either made or received by government agencies in North Carolina in carrying on
public business. Public records include documents, papers, letters, maps, books, photographs, films, sound recordings, magnetic or
other tapes, electronic data-processing records, artifacts or other documentary material, regardless of physical form or characteristic.
N.C.G.S. § 132-1
3. Who may inspect or get copies of public records?
Any person may inspect and get copies of public records.
N.C.G.S. § 132-6
4. To whom should a request for public records be directed?
The Public Records Law does not describe any specific procedure that a person must follow in requesting to inspect public records.
Normally, a request to any employee in a government office is sufficient to get access to records in that office. However, it is the
custodian of public records who is specifically required to allow those records to be inspected. The public official in charge of an
office is designated to be the custodian of records for that office.
N.C.G..S. § 132-2
5. When are public records available for inspection or copying?
The Public Records Law says that inspection and examination of records should be allowed at “reasonable times” and under the
reasonable supervision of the agency. “Reasonable times” is generally understood to mean during regular business hours.
N.C.G.S. § 132-6
6. May citizens request copies of public records in any media available?
If an agency has the capability to provide copies of public records in different kinds of media (for example, in print or on computer disc),
people requesting copies may choose to get copies in any and all the media available. People requesting copies of computer databases
may be required to make their requests in writing.
N.C.G.S. § 132-6.2(c)
7. May an agency charge fees for public records?
Government agencies may not charge fees for inspecting public records. Fees for certifying copies of public records are provided by law.
However, unless otherwise provided by law, no public agency shall charge a fee for an uncertified copy of a public record that exceeds
the actual cost to the public agency of making the copy.
N.C.G.S. § 132-6.2(b)
8. Must a public agency provide information in verbal form? The Public Records Law requires that
government agencies permit people to inspect or get copies of information that is in recorded form. The law does not indicate that
government agencies are required to provide information verbally to people who request it.
N.C.G.S. § 132-6.2(e)
9. What about inspecting or getting copies of records that contain both public and confidential
Some records contain both public and confidential information. Government agencies may not refuse to permit inspection or to provide
copies because public records contain some confidential information. Agencies must permit inspection and provide copies of the public,
non-confidential parts of these records..
N.C.G.S. § 132-6(c)
10. What are the remedies available if an agency refuses to release or disclose a public record?
Any person who is denied access to public records for the purposes of inspection or examination, and any person who is denied copies
of public records, may bring a civil action in court against thegovernment agency or official who is denying access or copies. Courts are
required to set public records suits for immediate hearings and to give hearings of these cases priority over other cases. The court may
order the agency to permit inspection or provide copies if the court determines that the person seeking the records is entitled to them.
N.C.G.S. § 132-9
Note: While the Attorney General’s Office may attempt to mediate disputes involving issues of access to public records, they do not have enforcement
authority. Only a court may enforce this law.
11. Are certain government records exempt from disclosure?
The public records law exempts certain types of records from required disclosure. The law says that records containing certain
communications between attorneys and their government clients, state tax information (N.C.G.S. § 132-1.1), trade secrets (N.C.G.S. §
132-1.2), certain lawsuit settlements (N.C.G.S. § 132-1.3), criminal investigation records (N.C.G.S. § 132-1.4), and records about
industrial expansion (N.C.G.S. § 132-6(d)), are not public records.
Several statutes regulate public disclosure of personnel information of government employees. Although some personnel information is
public (for example, name, age, date of employment, current position, title, current salary, date of most recent salary or position
assignment change and location of current assignment) personnel files of state, county and municipal employees are generally
confidential. See N.C.G.S. §§ 126-22, 153A-98, 160A-168, 115C-321, 115D-29, 122C-158, 130A-42, 131E-97.1, 162A-6.1. These
rules apply to personnel information for applicants, current employees, and former employees.
12. If records containing “criminal investigation” information are not public records, does that
mean that all law enforcement records are confidential?
No. N.C.G.S. § 132-1.4 (a) states that records of criminal investigations conducted by public law enforcement agencies or records of
criminal intelligence information compiled by public law enforcement agencies are not public records. However, unless otherwise
prohibited by law, certain information collected by public law enforcement agencies is public record as defined by the Public Records
Law. For example, the time, date, location and the nature of an apparent violation of the law reported to a public law enforcement
agency, and the name, sex, age, address, employment and alleged violation of law of a person arrested, charged or indicted are public
N.C.G.S. §132-1.4 (c) (1) & (2)
Note: State Bureau of Investigation (S.B.I.) records are not public records and access to them is not available under the Public Records Law. Case law
has held that access to S.B.I. records is controlled entirely by N.C.G.S. § 114-15. Similarly, case law has held that prison records are confidential and
are not subject to inspection by the public or by the inmate involved.
13. Does the Public Records Law cover access to records of federal agencies?
Records of federal agencies in North Carolina are not covered by the Public Records Law. However, in 1966, Congress passed the
Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). The Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552) generally provides that any person has a right,
enforceable in court, of access to federal agency records, except to the extent that such records (or portions thereof) are protected by
one of the nine exemptions or by one to three special law enforcement record exclusions. Persons seeking federal records under FOIA
should contact an agency public information officer. If this informal contact is not successful, a formal written request should be filed.
Appropriate contacts may be determined by calling the agency or by referencing the Federal Register, available in the documents
sections of larger institutional libraries or through the state library.
For more information about open meetings, please contact:
Victims & Citizens Services, NC Attorney General’s Office, PO Box 629, Raleigh, NC 27602-0629 • 919-716-6780

26 posted on 06/21/2007 12:25:55 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: bocopar

I made the mistake of getting into a political conversation with a Teamster member today. On the Duke case, this man STILL BELIEVES SOMETHING HAPPENED, and they only were found NOT GUILTY, not innocent, because they were RICH, WHITE (he is also white), and had GOOD LAWYERS. This man has heard NONE of the exculpatory evidence all this time. And yet these same people want to destroy conservative talk radio and censor the Internet becasue a few still hear the truth.

This man is leading a really good life, with all the rewards of any middle class existence, along with his children. I just can’t figure out how he is so brainwashed. Well, I guess I can figure it out.

Like I’ve said before, I hope NO “EXOTIC DANCERS” are EVER HIRED AGAIN! The Duke Lacrosse team WAS naive and foolish, and had a “contemporary” lack of morals at best for hiring Crystal but I doubt they will EVER do that again.

27 posted on 06/21/2007 5:56:20 PM PDT by LongTimeMILurker
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To: bocopar
The latest I heard was that Duke settled (Settlement amts. undisclosed) on behalf of the 88 Bigots..........

88 Bigots skate without one publicized word of apology.........

If I had been a plaintiff I would have foregone any monetary settlement and demanded a nationwide, televised apology from each and every one of those 88 bigots.........

28 posted on 06/21/2007 6:15:02 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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