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To: wolf78
Why are you turning this into a discussion about land? That's not Kaczynski's, or anyone else's point.

This is an issue about how much extra power is given to countries with larger populations. This is the same argument the founding fathers had about deciding the composition of the legislative branch. There are a whole host of reasons why apportioning power strictly on the basis of population is a bad idea (which is why we have a Senate). Kaczynski has simply used a dramatic means of illustrating this point.

Where did Kaczynski ask for reparations? He didn't, so stop acting like he did.

114 posted on 06/21/2007 3:24:34 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Where did Kaczynski ask for reparations? He didn't, so stop acting like he did.

He is asking for reparations. You can't get much plainer than this:

"We are only demanding one thing - that we get back what was taken from us," said Jaroslaw Kaczynski at the opening of the EU summit in Brussels, chaired by German chancellor Angela Merkel.

He's not saying that there is a better way to divide power. He wants his pound of flesh, and Germany is a more convenient target than the Soviet Union.
116 posted on 06/21/2007 3:44:43 PM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: curiosity
Why are you turning this into a discussion about land? That's not Kaczynski's, or anyone else's point.

I never did that. I just mockingly presented a counterargument as stupid as that of the Polish marxists-in-chief. If you had quoted my complete posting the irony would have been hard to overlook. The point is: Historical revisionism never works. Sure: Without WWII Poland's demographic would look different. Without Nazi idiocy Germany would also have been the first country to possess nuclear weapons (Oppenheimer would probably have stayed in Oppenheim). Who knows what Europe would look like today as a result of that??

There are a whole host of reasons why apportioning power strictly on the basis of population is a bad idea (which is why we have a Senate).

Actually, the compromise proposal advocated by the German side includes exactly that: A double majority of countries and population (and not population alone! Does nobody actually check facts?). The Polish demand (square root) does away with exactly that principle.

Kaczynski has simply used a dramatic means of illustrating this point.

As I explained to you: They have no point at all. It's just nationalistic posturing.

Where did Kaczynski ask for reparations? He didn't, so stop acting like he did.

I never did that. I just reserve my right to call bullsh*t when something smells like bullsh*t.
117 posted on 06/21/2007 3:59:04 PM PDT by wolf78 (Penn & Teller Libertarian - Equal Opportunity Offender)
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