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Iran 'unable to take Australians'
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Posted on 06/21/2007 12:41:53 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu

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To: onja

The Brits made gross errors in tactics and their sailors and marines were caught without any support. The helo was refueling and surface combat ships weren’t in position to defend.

The Brit soldiers and marines boarding the vessel had no choice in giving up, but a few of them were an embarassment during capture and after release.


21 posted on 06/21/2007 2:31:28 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: onja

I think the Iranians learned from the Aussie experience that they needed more firepower if they were going to catch a boarding party, and came back with more when they caught the Brits


22 posted on 06/21/2007 2:33:40 PM PDT by CanadianBacon
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Should have busted a cap in there asses...


23 posted on 06/21/2007 2:53:47 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Image hosted by Photobucket.com yup... the Aussies are of tougher stock than than current Brits are.
24 posted on 06/21/2007 2:57:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Retired COB
Yes, I did know, but that photo popped up on a Google image search. By the time I notice the ship number I'd already posted it.

Expect a FReepmail shortly.

25 posted on 06/21/2007 3:01:52 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Pray for the deliberately ignorant.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

BTTT


26 posted on 06/21/2007 3:03:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A big ox, a small ditch, a big load and a hot day--well, you can see the problem.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Do not alter headlines. Last warning.


27 posted on 06/21/2007 3:46:31 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Britain's First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Jonathon Band, has recently admitted there was a need for greater strategic awareness in the northern Gulf.

"Greater strategic awareness" = much more firepower. God bless the Aussies; they're our staunchest allies, and we're fortunate that they are.

28 posted on 06/21/2007 3:48:15 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: SJSAMPLE; CanadianBacon

Precisely to both of you - and I’m writing as a retired officer of the RAN, who has experience boarding parties in the Gulf.

People should note that the Australian sailors were able to get back to the ship they had just boarded, and that allowed them to set up a survivable defence situation. They were taken off that ship by helicopter for a reason - men in inflatables are incredibly vulnerable.

The Iranians didn’t allow the British that type of escape route. Maybe they’d learned from the first encounter, maybe it was luck, maybe it was poor tactics or situational awareness on the part of the sailors and marines. Maybe it was a combination of those. But the situations were not identical.


29 posted on 06/21/2007 3:51:49 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: CanadianBacon

My thoughts as well.

However, Great showing by the Aussies.

Gotta love them :-)

Cheers.


30 posted on 06/21/2007 3:59:43 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI - CSC)
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To: CJ Wolf; onja
The Iranians would never attack the British outright. If they (Iranians) had fired shots and killed it would have led to all out war.

Aye. The Iranians will only go as far as we let them go. .....and the Brits left the door wide open. Confront Iran and they invariably back down.

31 posted on 06/21/2007 4:00:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: ulm1
First kudo’s to the Aussies. Second I have it on a very reliable source that there was two US Navy SEAL boats about three miles away from the British incident. They were loaded for bear and looking for somewhere to unload. They offered assistance to the Brits and were told to “bugger off”.
32 posted on 06/21/2007 4:03:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Courage is when you are scared to death, saddle up and ride out anyway." John F'in Wayne.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

That’s our boys! God love ‘em.


33 posted on 06/21/2007 4:03:44 PM PDT by Seavenom
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Advance Australia fair
34 posted on 06/21/2007 4:07:02 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
re-boarded the vessel they had just searched

Smart move -- better than being caught in a small boat.

35 posted on 06/21/2007 4:08:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: mad_as_he$$

The Brits — from condescendingly telling us to “bugger off” to meekly surrendering to a 3rd world naval vessel/crew [*chortle*] within minutes time. One can only imagine what Horatio Nelson would’ve thought.


36 posted on 06/21/2007 4:16:28 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: Seavenom

Welcome to FreeRepublic.com


37 posted on 06/21/2007 4:17:40 PM PDT by moonman
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To: noname07718

During Pearl Harbor think of Boatswain’s Mate Thomas Donahue of the Monaghan. He was at the #4 gun waiting for ammunition lockers to be opened and ammunition distributed. While he waited he through wrenches at the low flying Japanese airplanes. When they finally got them opened someone yelled up and asked him what he needed. His response was “Powder, I can’t keep throwing things at them.”

That’s the kind of determination that should’ve been displayed by the Brits. You kinda expect that from the Aussies. Aussies do like to rumble.


38 posted on 06/21/2007 4:18:02 PM PDT by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: Mr. Mojo
Spinning in his grave I am sure.
39 posted on 06/21/2007 4:20:17 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Courage is when you are scared to death, saddle up and ride out anyway." John F'in Wayne.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Would you expect any better ?

I have a friend who was in Basra last year who told me that morale among the Brits is rock bottom. They hate to leave their camp at the airport and can’t wait to get out and “let the Americans have their war”

We’d be better off giving Basra to the Poles.


40 posted on 06/21/2007 4:21:19 PM PDT by Axlrose
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