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Is The Arlington Group Coalescing Around Fred Thompson?
The Atlantic Online ^ | 21 Jun 2007 | Marc Ambinder

Posted on 06/21/2007 2:33:26 PM PDT by Josh Painter

After more than a year of fretting, it looks as if many members of the Arlington Group, an informal roundtable of the country's most influential culturally conservative groups, are fast settling around Fred Thompson as their presidential candidate of choice.

Thompson is not an evangelical, but he has, evidently, sounded solid enough in his private meetings with individual Arlington Group members, a series of which have taken place over the past few weeks.

The Group does not endorse as a whole -- that's not how it's set up -- but its views generally reflect the views of conservative, politically active Christians in some early primary states...

Many Arlington Group members are pragmatic. I've been told that they realize Mitt Romney does not have longstanding family ties to the conservative establishment and assume that he will govern from the center... that a President John McCain would not care and feed their members' institutional interests at all... that Rudy Giuliani would not align his governing agenda with theirs. Choosing Thompson may be as much about survival as it is about policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at marcambinder.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: arlingtongroup; christianvote; elections; evangelicals; fred; fredthompson; gop
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1 posted on 06/21/2007 2:33:28 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: Sturm Ruger

Of course they are. They’re smart and politically savvy. Savvy, Romney supporters?


2 posted on 06/21/2007 2:36:20 PM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . . twins would be nice.')
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To: Politicalmom

ping-a-ling.


3 posted on 06/21/2007 2:37:56 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Sturm Ruger
After more than a year of fretting, it looks as if many members of the Arlington Group, an informal roundtable of the country's most influential culturally conservative groups, are fast settling around Fred Thompson as their presidential candidate of choice.

Fred Thompson maybe a good candidate if he runs but It amazes me people are so willing to back someone who has not yet declared his candidacy!
4 posted on 06/21/2007 2:38:43 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Sturm Ruger
I've been told that they realize Mitt Romney does not have longstanding family ties to the conservative establishment and assume that he will govern from the center... that a President John McCain would not care and feed their members' institutional interests at all... that Rudy Giuliani would not align his governing agenda with theirs. Choosing Thompson may be as much about survival as it is about policy.

Seems to me they've reached the same conclusions we reached quite some time ago; like when the first three candidates named announced!

Well, the stragglers are catching up.

5 posted on 06/21/2007 2:41:21 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Man50D

What is the “Arlington Group”? Some get together liberal elitists think control the minds of conservatives?

Fred’s been silent lately on the Senate’s far-reaching immigration bill, if enacted will start the obliteration of the middle class in America.

Not a good sign for him in my book.


6 posted on 06/21/2007 2:43:02 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Man50D
...but It amazes me people are so willing to back someone who has not yet declared his candidacy!

Why? We've been watching Fred all along and like what we see. What's so odd about that?

7 posted on 06/21/2007 2:43:21 PM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: bcsco
Why? We've been watching Fred all along and like what we see. What's so odd about that?

I'm not disputing what you like about him but it's based on one big assumption without any fact. It's tantamount to wanting to bet on a horse that has not yet been entered in the race!
8 posted on 06/21/2007 2:51:37 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Found out Fred hates the UnFairTax, eh?


9 posted on 06/21/2007 2:53:35 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Man50D
but it's based on one big assumption without any fact

lol, you've not been paying very close attention to Fred lately?

10 posted on 06/21/2007 2:55:13 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Shermy

Not true.

Fred has spoken on numerous occasions about the current Senate Amnesty bill. He has covered it and summed it up as bad law that will not work.

Have a look at Sturm Ruger’s reading list.


11 posted on 06/21/2007 2:56:33 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Man50D
Man50D wrote: "Fred Thompson maybe a good candidate if he runs but It amazes me people are so willing to back someone who has not yet declared his candidacy!"

What amazes me is that some people can't recognize a political draft when they see one. I'm just one of many thousands of voters who, not being willing to settle for the candidates the GOP offered us, CHOSE Fred Thompson and have been persuading him to carry our banner in the next election. I think he's gotten our message, and in a few short weeks, he will declare his candidacy.


12 posted on 06/21/2007 2:56:49 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Fred STRONGLY supports the "absolute right to gun ownership" - VoteMatch)
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To: Shermy
Some get together liberal elitists think control the minds of conservatives?

They are neither liberal nor elitists, its simply a coalitions of similiar minded groups, or leaders of some of those groups. Nothing more.

Also, Thompson has stated that the shamnesty bill should be voted down.

13 posted on 06/21/2007 2:57:51 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: The Blitherer
lol, you've not been paying very close attention to Fred lately?

I've been paying close enough attention to know he hasn't declared his candidacy.
14 posted on 06/21/2007 2:59:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

People are free to back any person of their choice. They can write in a person if necessary.

Your line about undeclared is tired and worn. You have been told countless times that FDT cannot formally announce until his obligations with ‘Law and Order’ are up at the end of this month.

The Sun will rise tomorrow morning.

Fred Thompson will run for President.


15 posted on 06/21/2007 3:00:35 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: xcamel

He does not hate the FairTax.


16 posted on 06/21/2007 3:01:16 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Exactly right. It’s June of ‘07, for Fred’s sake! He can wait until September or October if he wanted to, but won’t. Of course he’s running.


17 posted on 06/21/2007 3:01:28 PM PDT by KingLiberty (As 12th Imam I declare 'Give me liberty or give me. . . twins would be nice.')
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To: Sturm Ruger
I think he's gotten our message, and in a few short weeks, he will declare his candidacy.

Thank you for proving my point! Your statement is based on assumption and not fact!
18 posted on 06/21/2007 3:01:46 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

If you back Rudy McRomney your ***assumption*** is they have a chance to win......

That’s “amazing”! It’s AMAZING that you would base the election on that ASSumption.


19 posted on 06/21/2007 3:04:58 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage
Your line about undeclared is tired and worn. You have been told countless times that FDT cannot formally announce until his obligations with ‘Law and Order’ are up at the end of this month.

You may consider it tired and worn but it is the truth regardless of the reason. More power to him if he runs. He may shake up the socialist Democrats but I'm not going to count on him until he does so.
20 posted on 06/21/2007 3:05:08 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Shermy

Shermy wrote: “Fred’s been silent lately on the Senate’s far-reaching immigration bill, if enacted will start the obliteration of the middle class in America.”

Fred on the immigration bill:

“Is it any wonder that a lot of folks today feel like they’re being sold a phony bill of goods on border security? A ‘comprehensive’ plan doesn’t mean much if the government can’t accomplish one of its most basic responsibilities for its citizens — securing its borders. A nation without secure borders will not long be a sovereign nation.”

“No matter how much lipstick Washington tries to slap onto this legislative pig, it’s not going to win any beauty contests.”

“We should scrap this ‘comprehensive’ immigration bill and the whole debate until the government can show the American people that we have secured the borders — or at least made great headway. That would give proponents of the bill a chance to explain why putting illegals in a more favorable position than those who play by the rules is not really amnesty.”

- Fred Thompson, National Review Online, May 17, 2007

That says it all. WTF else do you want him to say?


21 posted on 06/21/2007 3:05:59 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Fred STRONGLY supports the "absolute right to gun ownership" - VoteMatch)
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To: Sturm Ruger

“That says it all. WTF else do you want him to say?”

Make it a prime part of his ABC radio spots, which reach much more people than a May 17 posting.

Seize the day


22 posted on 06/21/2007 3:08:04 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Hostage
If you back Rudy McRomney your ***assumption*** is they have a chance to win......

That’s “amazing”! It’s AMAZING that you would base the election on that ASSumption.


You're doing the very thing you accuse me of doing. None of my posts even mentioned Rudy, McCain, Romney or any cnadidate yet you pull it out of thin air and try to make it sound as though it were fact. The fact is I'm not deciding on anyone on June 21, 2007 and won't for sometime.
23 posted on 06/21/2007 3:10:39 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

And the ‘truth’ is your candidate is not going to win because your candidate gets little of the Republican vote.

That’s a fact. Let’s say it again, your candidate gets very little of the Republican vote and is getting less and less as time rolls by.


24 posted on 06/21/2007 3:10:45 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Man50D

Man50D wrote: “Thank you for proving my point! Your statement is based on assumption and not fact!”

You’re delusional. My statement is based on statements Fred and various members of his team have been making for the past six weeks. He’s running, and everyone knows it except for the perpetually stuck on stupid.


25 posted on 06/21/2007 3:11:59 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Fred STRONGLY supports the "absolute right to gun ownership" - VoteMatch)
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To: Sturm Ruger

I am 100% behind Fred’s bid. He is the only one that might be able to defeat the Clinton machine.


26 posted on 06/21/2007 3:19:27 PM PDT by nckerr ("The truth is bin Laden and his followers did not hijack Islam; they simply took it seriously.")
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To: Man50D

I am mocking you. You are criticizing people about their choice of candidate, a choice that involves assumptions.

I got news for you, every choice has assumptions built in.

Therefore, your commentary is a waste. It serves nothing and nobody.

People subscribed to the Blackstone IPO this evening for $31. They are ***assuming*** the Blackstone stock price will go up. Are you going to criticize them and babble about being amazed that they would assume the stock will go up even though the stock hasn’t started trading yet?

Or you can go back further with that example and criticize them for showing an interest in subscribing to the IPO when it hasn’t even been priced yet.

Your comment about FDT is so asinine it is irritating.


27 posted on 06/21/2007 3:20:12 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Man50D

For years on this board we had people telling us we had to line up behind Rudy or McCain because they were the only ones that could win. They were undeclared even though everyone knew they were running. It is not a new phenomenon to support a candidate undeclared, especially when you know it’s only a matter of timing.

Hillary has been running her campaign since she left the W.H. Obama was running at least a year before he declared.


28 posted on 06/21/2007 3:23:31 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Shermy

Shermy wrote: “Make it a prime part of his ABC radio spots, which reach much more people than a May 17 posting.”

It WAS one of his ABC radio commentaries. In addition to being broadcast to millions on the ABC radio network, the script for that show, “The Immigration Bill: Comprehensive or Incomprehensible?”, was posted on National Review Online, Townhall.com and RealClearPolitics.com. Further, it was discussed on countless blogs, websites and television show discussion panels, and Fred talked about it in a number of interviews.

Hello? Is anyone paying attention?


29 posted on 06/21/2007 3:27:39 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Fred STRONGLY supports the "absolute right to gun ownership" - VoteMatch)
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To: Sturm Ruger

You know, the Thompson candidacy was born here on Free Republic in 2006. I remember someone here suggesting him as a candidate.

So when his name popped up earlier this year, I was not surprised at all.


30 posted on 06/21/2007 3:29:37 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Sturm Ruger

“It WAS one of his ABC radio commentaries.”

Then I stand corrected.


31 posted on 06/21/2007 3:32:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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32 posted on 06/21/2007 3:33:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Mom, I'll be old enough to vote for Fred when he runs for his second term." -My Son. (I'm proud))
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To: Retired Greyhound

I think Fred has been a dream candidate since he was in the Senate, but yes I believe that FR was the first place I heard his name being kicked around for a run in ‘08.


33 posted on 06/21/2007 3:34:15 PM PDT by Domandred
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To: Shermy

A fairly impressive group.

From Wikipedia:

Alliance Defense Fund - Alan Sears
American Family Association - Donald Wildmon
American Values - Gary Bauer
Bott Radio Network - Richard Bott
CatholicVote.Org - Raymond Flynn
Center for Moral Clarity - Rod Parsley
Citizens for Community Values - Phil Burress
Coalition of African American Pastors - William Owens
ConservativeHQ.com - Richard Viguerie
Coral Ridge Ministries and Center for Reclaiming America - D. James Kennedy
Covenant Marriage Movement - Phil Waugh
Exodus International - Mike Haley
Family Research Council and FRC Action - Tony Perkins
Fieldsted & Company - Howard Ahmanson, Jr.
Focus on the Family and Focus on the Family Action - James Dobson
Free Congress Foundation - Paul Weyrich
High Impact Leadership Coalition - Harry Jackson
Inspiration Television Network
Judeo-Christian Council for Constitutional Restoration and Vision America - Rick Scarborough
Liberty Counsel - Mathew Staver
Liberty University - Jerry Falwell
National Association of Evangelicals - Leith Anderson
Ohio Restoration Project - Russell Johnson
Salem Communications - Stuart Epperson
Southern Baptist Convention - Richard Land
Susan B. Anthony List - Marjorie Dannenfelser
Teen Mania Ministries - Ron Luce
TeenPact - Tim Echols
TheVanguard.Org - Rod D. Martin
Tradition, Family, Property
Traditional Values Coalition - Lou Sheldon


34 posted on 06/21/2007 3:37:11 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Shermy

Ignorant people should check their “facts” before they spout off....


35 posted on 06/21/2007 3:51:49 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Mom, I'll be old enough to vote for Fred when he runs for his second term." -My Son. (I'm proud))
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To: Shermy
Fred’s been silent lately on the Senate’s far-reaching immigration bill, if enacted will start the obliteration of the middle class in America.

You're joking, right? You mean you really haven't read Thompson's comments on immigration? If you are seriously concerned, let me allay your concerns - Fred came out in favor of building the fence and enforcing the border long before this bill was introduced. He is a little more open to discussing how we handle the people who are already here, but only after we secure the border.

Of course, if you already know that and just like to stir the pot, feel free to take a long walk off a short pier...

36 posted on 06/21/2007 3:53:45 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: Retired Greyhound

I am not sure I was first, but I wistfully suggested that Fred run sometime in October or November of last year. Others agreed it would be great, but none of us thought there was even a chance he would actually run.


37 posted on 06/21/2007 3:54:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Mom, I'll be old enough to vote for Fred when he runs for his second term." -My Son. (I'm proud))
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To: Man50D

He’s running - he has an exploratory committee and he’s been all over TV, the Internet, and radio.

He’s running, he’s doing it his way, and he’s gonna win. So you better get used to Fred.


38 posted on 06/21/2007 3:54:47 PM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Shermy

Silent? Nice try, but I have to sound the buzzer here.

Obviously, you either haven’t listened to Fred once, or you have, but choose to ignore what he has said.

IOW he’s firmly against the shamnesty bill and says we need to control the borders.


39 posted on 06/21/2007 3:59:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Hostage

IIRC that’s one thing he really hasn’t commented on.


40 posted on 06/21/2007 4:00:24 PM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Sturm Ruger

“I’m just one of many thousands of voters who, not being willing to settle for the candidates the GOP offered us, CHOSE Fred Thompson”

Actually it was the MSM not the GOP who chose “the Big Three”
GO FRED


41 posted on 06/21/2007 4:00:47 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: iowamark
Liberty University - Jerry Falwell

Gonna have to update that one, unless Rev. Falwell has a webcam in Heaven. ;-)

42 posted on 06/21/2007 4:02:26 PM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: Shermy
Fred’s been silent lately on the Senate’s far-reaching immigration bill

do you have your fingers in your ears by any chance???

43 posted on 06/21/2007 4:03:23 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Sturm Ruger

I saw my first “Fred Thompson for President” bumper sticker today as I was running errands. I wanted to give the woman driving a “thumbs-up”, but I was afraid she might think I was actually flipping her off.

It was nice to see here in Keith Ellison’s district.


44 posted on 06/21/2007 4:04:05 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: CA Conservative

“You’re joking, right? You mean you really haven’t read Thompson’s comments on immigration?”

Yes I did. And I said “lately”. Given the immensity of this debate in recent weeks, and how important this is to the future of the country I think he should be in the fore front of actively defeating this bill, not merely making a record.

Imagine the opportunities...one photo op at the border, a speech covered by tv networks stating his operation to the bill. The people will move to him fast from all sides, and he can create an environment where the msm can’t avoid making Democrats like Clinton and Obama show their colors.

Going to see Margaret Thatcher is nice, but small and kind of 9/10


45 posted on 06/21/2007 4:11:14 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Sturm Ruger
and assume that he will govern from the center the left

Fixed.

46 posted on 06/21/2007 4:22:13 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Man50D
It's almost like they are grasping at straws. As far as traditional GOP nominees go, Fred's resume is fairly light (although adequate). He is a middle-of-the-road conservative like McCain (their style is different), but much less qualified, which is why I favor McCain.
47 posted on 06/21/2007 4:38:32 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Man50D

I’m so confident that Fred will run that I’ve already sent him $$$!


48 posted on 06/21/2007 4:43:23 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I'M WITH FRED!)
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To: Norman Bates

McCain isn’t middle-of-the-anything. He’s a RINO.


49 posted on 06/21/2007 4:48:21 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Hostage
And the ‘truth’ is your candidate is not going to win because your candidate gets little of the Republican vote.

That’s a fact. Let’s say it again, your candidate gets very little of the Republican vote and is getting less and less as time rolls by.


You're not paying attention. As I stated in post #23 I haven't decided on a candidate and won't for some time. It may very well be Thompson if he declares he is running and if I agree with his positions on the issues.
50 posted on 06/21/2007 4:51:52 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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