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A college education for illegal aliens (shaking head in disbelief)
The Washington Times ^ | 06/22/07 | Kris W. Kobach

Posted on 06/22/2007 5:04:44 AM PDT by SE Mom

It's no secret that the Senate immigration bill rewards 12-20 million illegal aliens with immediate amnesty. What is less well known is that the bill also allows illegal aliens to receive in-state tuition rates at public universities, discriminating against U.S. citizens from out of state and law-abiding foreign students.

These provisions are buried deep in the Senate bill. They are part of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act section.

The DREAM Act is a nightmare. It repeals a 1996 federal law that prohibits any state from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens, unless the state also offers in-state tuition rates to all U.S. citizens. On top of that, the DREAM Act offers a fast track to U.S. citizenship for illegal aliens who attend college.

On its own, the DREAM Act never stood a chance of passing — even in the Senate. Every scientific opinion poll on the subject has shown over 70 percent opposition to giving in-state tuition benefits to illegal aliens.

Not surprisingly, the DREAM Act languished in committee for five years — until the opportunity arose to hitch it to the Senate's "comprehensive" immigration bill of 2006. Now, Sen. Edward Kennedy and his allies have added it to this year's amnesty bill, too. They know that the only way to slip such bad legislation past the American people is to bury it in a comprehensive bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; cannonhatchtreachery; dreamact; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals; paygringopay; vampirebill
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Is there ANYTHING in this bill that doesn't harm America?
1 posted on 06/22/2007 5:04:47 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Guenevere; Travis McGee

ping


2 posted on 06/22/2007 5:05:24 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom

“Is there ANYTHING in this bill that doesn’t harm America?”

I think it was printed on recycled paper. ;)


3 posted on 06/22/2007 5:06:57 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

Whew! What a relief:)


4 posted on 06/22/2007 5:10:31 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom; PhiKapMom; F15Eagle; 2ndDivisionVet

Ping

Just when we think we have heard everything about this bill, it gets worse.

Keep calling, folks. The calls are working. Remind your senators to vote “No” on cloture.


5 posted on 06/22/2007 5:10:32 AM PDT by indcons (Bush, Lott, Martinez, et al. - the LaRaza wing of the GOP)
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To: SE Mom

6 posted on 06/22/2007 5:10:46 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: SE Mom

“a college education for illegal aliens...”

one has to take care of the future cadre of the democrat party. they are the occupying army you know and until hillary! seizes the reigns of power, they must be provided for, nurtured and groomed for the jobs they will do. (grease up the gulag boots.)


7 posted on 06/22/2007 5:10:55 AM PDT by ripley
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To: SE Mom

A good friend of mine is a Chinese national with 3 advanced degrees and a very enviable record as an application developer and programmer.

No “immigration reform” for him - he’s still in the H1B waiting line; a lower priority than pickers, packers and ditch diggers.


8 posted on 06/22/2007 5:14:03 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

Wow.


9 posted on 06/22/2007 5:15:03 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom

They are going to expect classes in Spanish!


10 posted on 06/22/2007 5:15:04 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: SE Mom

Is there ANYTHING that shows how unconcerned our Congress is for this country?


11 posted on 06/22/2007 5:15:51 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: indcons

Later in the article:

~snip~

The list includes some states right in the heart of America: California, Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah and Washington.

In most of these states, the law was passed under cover of darkness. The governors declined to hold signing ceremonies heralding the new law — because public opinion was overwhelmingly opposed to giving taxpayer-subsidized college education to illegal aliens.

Not surprisingly, when voters themselves decide the question, a very different result occurs. In November 2006 Arizona voters passed Proposition 300, which expressly barred Arizona universities from offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. More than 71 percent voted in favor.

The American people realize the injustice of giving illegal aliens a taxpayer-subsidized education when out-of-state U.S. citizens and law-abiding foreign students have to pay the full cost of their education.

~snip~


12 posted on 06/22/2007 5:17:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom
I ,for one, would like to know the names of all those who voted for giving illegals this sweet college deal. Name them so we can work to make sure they don't return to congress.
13 posted on 06/22/2007 5:18:30 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: SE Mom
Is there ANYTHING in this bill that Sen. Kennedy does, that doesn't harm America?

There...fixed it.

14 posted on 06/22/2007 5:20:53 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: SE Mom
“the bill also allows illegal aliens to receive in-state tuition rates at public universities, discriminating against U.S. citizens from out of state and law-abiding foreign students.”

And all classes will be in Span-ish so if you are an American and speak our language and have our culture you are out of here!

15 posted on 06/22/2007 5:22:42 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Ouderkirk

Yes- but I EXPECT this kind of bill from Kennedy. It’s the support for it from our president and assorted others who should, and likely DO, know better that is frightening.


16 posted on 06/22/2007 5:27:05 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: lonestar

“They are going to expect classes in Spanish!”

They already do. There were wars being waged over this at Cal State Long Beach in the late 80’s/early 90’s when I attended. I got involved in lengthy debates over the issue, and was disgusted to learn that they were getting Spanish taught classes, despite it being in the school charter that a “working knowledge” of English was required to enroll in the school in the first place.

It should be noted, that on other campuses, like Berkeley, with large populations of Japanese, Chinese and Indian students, the only group demanding classes taught in other languages are Spanish speaking kids. At least I havent seen any Japanese students demanding anything - they’re usually busy in the library studying.


17 posted on 06/22/2007 5:27:18 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: ByDesign

It should be noted, that on other campuses, like Berkeley, with large populations of Japanese, Chinese and Indian students, the only group demanding classes taught in other languages are Spanish speaking kids. At least I havent seen any Japanese students demanding anything - they’re usually busy in the library studying.


Wow.


18 posted on 06/22/2007 5:29:22 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom

A Civil War is coming. Prepare yourself now.


19 posted on 06/22/2007 5:33:05 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: SE Mom

Trent Lott knows exactly what is good for you, you don’t know nuttin’ so shut up and let the professionals handle this, so this important legislation can be passed and Lott, Graham and McConnell can attend a victory dinner hosted by Ted Kennedy.


20 posted on 06/22/2007 5:35:17 AM PDT by laconic (ence)
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To: SE Mom

SE Mom,

Please see your FReepmail


21 posted on 06/22/2007 5:36:35 AM PDT by indcons (Bush, Lott, Martinez, et al. - the LaRaza wing of the GOP)
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To: SE Mom

good mercy....


22 posted on 06/22/2007 5:46:10 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: SE Mom; All
One can read about the MAY 1 - CELEBRATIONS and their strategy and DEMANDS in a letter to speaker Pelosi.

Their concern is tantamount to saying: “Do not criminalize illegal activities and do not adopt any law enforcement procedures which may be used to separate individuals who are here illegally from the legal immigrant and legal resident alien population. They want to obfuscate the line between legal and illegal by suggesting that the citizens of the United States use euphemisms such as undocumented workers rather than the legally correct and descriptive, "illegal aliens." It should be also noticed that they oppose protective measures which would cripple anti-terrorist activities.

The Honorable Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi The Congress Washington D.C.

Dear Speaker Pelosi

Read more here.

http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2007/04/may_1_celebrati.html

Their 10 demands are listed and the DREAM ACT is listed at number 10.

National Immigrant Solidarity Network

10) Yes to the DREAM Act and LGBT immigrant legislation. We support reintroduction of the DREAM Act and the extension of benefits to lesbian-gay-bi-sexual-transgender (LGBT) families within the family reunification laws, We support the passage of the Uniting American Families Act, and the lifting of the HIV ban on immigration.

The original materials may be found at http://www.mayday2007.org

23 posted on 06/22/2007 5:48:49 AM PDT by anglian
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To: SE Mom
...— because public opinion was overwhelmingly opposed to giving taxpayer-subsidized college education to illegal aliens....

We shouldn't be giving taxpayer-subsidized college education to anybody, let alone illegal aliens. Let the freeloaders earn it like the rest of us working stiffs.

24 posted on 06/22/2007 5:49:00 AM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: L98Fiero
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
25 posted on 06/22/2007 5:49:05 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: indcons

:)


26 posted on 06/22/2007 5:50:01 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2007/04/may_1_celebrati.html


27 posted on 06/22/2007 5:50:37 AM PDT by anglian
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To: SE Mom; All
Illegal Immigrants Will Receive Welfare Under Senate Bill: Setting the Record Straight
www.heritage.org ^ | June 18, 2007 | Robert E. Rector
FR Posted on 06/18/2007 by dennisw

In criticizing recent Heritage Foundation research on the cost of low-skill immigration and amnesty, proponents of the Senate immigration legislation (S. 1348), including Administration spokesmen, have falsely claimed that the proposal would not give illegal immigrants access to the U.S. welfare system.

While provisions of the Senate bill would delay illegal immigrants' access to welfare for several years, over time nearly all amnesty recipients would be offered legal permanent residence and access to more than 60 federal means-tested welfare programs.

Specifically, Z visa holders would immediately be given Social Security numbers and would begin earning entitlement to Social Security and Medicare (which are not means-tested welfare programs).

Some ten to thirteen years after enactment, amnesty recipients would begin to gain access to a wide variety of means-tested welfare programs, such as Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, public housing, and Food Stamps. The amnesty process under S.1348, and the different stages of the process at which amnesty recipients become eligible for different government benefits, are precisely described in "Amnesty Will Cost U.S. Taxpayers at Least $2.6 Trillion."

28 posted on 06/22/2007 5:50:58 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz

If you liked that- you’re going to just love this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854540/posts


29 posted on 06/22/2007 5:52:29 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: SE Mom

File it in the archives under “The Road to CW2.”


30 posted on 06/22/2007 5:54:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: L98Fiero; SE Mom

“Is there ANYTHING in this bill that doesn’t harm America?”

I think it was printed on recycled paper. ;)


Note the ink used carbon that wasn’t offset by a credit.


31 posted on 06/22/2007 5:55:08 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: blam
A Civil War is coming. Prepare yourself now.

It's becoming apparent that you may be correct. The ballot box is useless, and the liberals own the soap box. WTF is wrong with these morons in Washington? Are they completely deaf to the demands of the electorate?

32 posted on 06/22/2007 5:55:26 AM PDT by meyer (RNC, DNC, two sides of the same coin.)
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To: SE Mom

The one thing American taxpayer money DOESN’T seem to go to is HELPING AMERICANS.

Missions to TERRORISTS in Hamas, Fatah, etc. etc. etc.

My friends we are being treated as worker bees to provide the honey for whomever our elitist politicians wish to pander to THIS WEEK ... or as whatever suits THEM ...

It’s beyond disgusting ... And this kind of nonsense must stop.


33 posted on 06/22/2007 6:10:58 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: SE Mom

The one thing American taxpayer money DOESN’T seem to go to is HELPING AMERICANS.

Millions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to TERRORISTS in Hamas, Fatah, etc. etc. etc.

My friends we are being treated as worker bees to provide the honey for whomever our elitist politicians wish to pander to THIS WEEK ... or as whatever suits THEM ...

It’s beyond disgusting ... And this kind of nonsense must stop.


34 posted on 06/22/2007 6:12:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: SE Mom
...discriminating against U.S. citizens from out of state and law-abiding foreign students.

In state students will be affected too.

If you have an illegal family with four or five children and $100,000 in annual income, of which $75,000 is on a cash basis, off the books, the family appears to be "poor." Any college students in that family (anchor babies and illegals) will then become eligible for Pell grants, state and University grants, work study, as well as subsidized Perkins and Stafford Loans.

Contrast with a white American family, possibly with legal immigrant parents, earning $50,000, all on the books. Not only will they be punished by high taxes and a higher cost of living, but the college students in the family will be denied grants and receive unsubsidized Stafford Loans. Even more likely is that the parents will have to take out Parent PLUS Loans or even private loans.

In addition, the colleges and universities are legally allowed to discriminate against the white American family (affirmative action). I have no doubt that affirmative action extends to financial aid, too.

The end result is that it doesn't pay to be a U.S. citizen, rather the U.S. citizen is legally obligated to subsidize those who break and scoff at the law.

It's a recipe for disaster.

35 posted on 06/22/2007 6:18:12 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: SE Mom

Come to America, get a college education at our expense! I’ve had it with Washington. Those clowns there don’t represent me, or most of the people in this country. They’re in Washington to feather their own nests. It’s time the corruption of politics that exists in Washington came to an end.


36 posted on 06/22/2007 6:21:45 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: laconic

Lott, Graham and McConnell are expecting votes from Latinos out of this. They’re dreaming, of course.


37 posted on 06/22/2007 6:23:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: rabscuttle385
The end result is that it doesn't pay to be a U.S. citizen, rather the U.S. citizen is legally obligated to subsidize those who break and scoff at the law.

That's it in a nutshell. Our politicians have made us a nation of (perceived) self-haters who subsidize everything else on Earth. If you're here illegally, steal all you can because we'll rob it from the taxpayer. But IF the taxpayer doesn't pay his/her taxes, THEM we'll throw in jail. It's time to clean house of all of them in D.C. Nearly every one of them. Or at least those who sponsor and support this kind of "legislation".
38 posted on 06/22/2007 6:24:34 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Ouderkirk

The Kennedys are like the Bonapartes. What’s good for them is good for the nation. And they are born to rule.


39 posted on 06/22/2007 6:25:18 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: SE Mom

Where’s a class action suit by legal US citizens who get socked with out-of-state rates?


40 posted on 06/22/2007 6:25:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SE Mom
Is there ANYTHING in this bill that doesn't harm screw Americans?
41 posted on 06/22/2007 6:26:38 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SE Mom
Agreed. That stupid Utahan - Orrin Hatch is the sponsor of this horrid legislation. I have this feeling the DREAM Act is just the tip of what's buried in the sellout bill that's going to come back before the Senate.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

42 posted on 06/22/2007 6:27:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SE Mom
From '06....

States Grapple With In-State Tuition for Illegal Immigrants

Check out the fifth paragraph down from the top.

43 posted on 06/22/2007 6:28:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SE Mom
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. US Declaration of Independence

A pox on both their Houses.

44 posted on 06/22/2007 6:33:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ByDesign
It should be noted, that on other campuses, like Berkeley, with large populations of Japanese, Chinese and Indian students, the only group demanding classes taught in other languages are Spanish speaking kids. At least I havent seen any Japanese students demanding anything - they’re usually busy in the library studying.

That is the truth, I had to retake the drivers test once, to many speeding tickets, there were five Asian students there that day taking the drivers test, they all took it in English.

45 posted on 06/22/2007 6:33:14 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SE Mom

That’s it - I’m applying for illegal alien status for my family!

Cheap, subsidized tuition, no need to save for college!
I’ll go out and buy that corvette I’ve got my eye on!

No, no, the taxpayers didn’t buy the corvette, they just paid for my girls’ college education.

(No, no, tax dollars don’t go to fund abortions at Planned Parenthood, it just goes to pay for their other budget items.)


46 posted on 06/22/2007 6:34:13 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SE Mom

I do not understand how those who are sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution can use it as toilet paper.

Also that we are not storming the congress and demanding the recall of any senator/congresscritter who actively supports this abomination.


47 posted on 06/22/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: SE Mom

It becomes increasingly apparent with each passing day that the United States Congress no longer represents the will of the true citizens of the United States. Instead they represent the will of themselves, other nations, globalists, and global corporate interests. It is quickly coming a time when we citizens must take the necessary action to wrest control of our government from their corrupt hands and return it to those who will represent our national rights as American citizens. It is time now to begin preparing for a new 21st century tea party. Our national sovereignty and our children’s future freedom hangs in the balance. Apathy will only secure our demise. - OB1


48 posted on 06/22/2007 6:38:49 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (WHERE'S THE FENCE ? KILL BILL - II !! Vote Conservative. Vote Duncan Hunter - 2008)
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To: SE Mom

I would like help funding the education I’ve struggled to pay for in the past 7 years! I made 1k/year too much to qualify for grants.......and I’m going to be forced to pay for someone who doesn’t belong here? This is wrong in so many ways!


49 posted on 06/22/2007 6:43:04 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: blam

A Civil War is coming. Prepare yourself now.

Yep. World war also.


50 posted on 06/22/2007 6:46:30 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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