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Intelligence: Signs of Trouble in Kim Jong-il's Health(much more serious than reported)
JoongAng Ilbo ^ | 06/23/07

Posted on 06/22/2007 9:03:06 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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Intelligence: 'Signs of Trouble in Kim Jong-il's Health' [JoongAng Ilbo]

The day before (Christopher) Hill's visit... intelligence agency on alert

The intelligence authorities are trying to verify the intelligence that something went wrong with Kim Jong-il (age: 65) on June 20, the day before the visit by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill. Intelligence sources in Seoul said on June 22, "We won't reveal the source but we picked up signs that Kim Jong-il's health is in trouble. S. Korea and U.S. intelligence are trying to find out if it is true."

They also added, "There are indications that Guards Bureau, which is responsible for the security of Kim Jong-il, and Security Command of N. Korean Military are stepping up their activities. Five days ago, N. Korean border guards with their arms cross the border over to Kaisantun, Longjing, China, which prompted Chinese to suspect that something was going wrong inside N. Korea."

Kim Jong-il made a string of visits to factories located in mountainous northern part of Jagang and N. Pyongan area early June. There is no report on Kim's activities from N. Korea's state media since June 17. The government authorities are skeptical, saying "If something went wrong with Kim Jong-il, how could they allow Assistant Secretary Hill into N. Korea?"

Lee Young-jong

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200707; 20070717; health; kimjongil; korea; northkorea; soronery; tlr
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Kim Jong-il could go at any time. His condition appears to be much more serious than what is reported in the media. The Kim Jong-il figure which showed up at (the celebration of) N. Korean military's founding is not a real one, but his Kagemusha, that is, a carbon copy of him.

1 posted on 06/22/2007 9:03:12 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/22/2007 9:03:46 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Dang. That's too bad.

May he find his Savior in his final moments. That's all that's left after a worthless life.

3 posted on 06/22/2007 9:04:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wonder if he’s going to die five or six times before he finally gets it right?


4 posted on 06/22/2007 9:04:59 PM PDT by Nachoman (I can't help the way I think.)
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To: Nachoman

Who is the successor to the ‘dear leader’


5 posted on 06/22/2007 9:05:48 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: TigerLikesRooster
He's dead, Jim.

I'm not dead yet....I think I'll go for a walk....

6 posted on 06/22/2007 9:07:16 PM PDT by stboz
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Only the good die young. He’ll be around another 100 or so years.


7 posted on 06/22/2007 9:07:18 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Nachoman
This much is certain: Kim Jong is really Ill.
8 posted on 06/22/2007 9:08:07 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I hope the people around him remember to “lose the football” in case he gets any ideas about going out in a blaze.
9 posted on 06/22/2007 9:08:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Is Arial Sharon still Alive ?
10 posted on 06/22/2007 9:08:36 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I hope the “company” did a better job on him than they did on the beard.


11 posted on 06/22/2007 9:09:15 PM PDT by borntoraisehogs (If we build it,they won't come)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

it’s because he’ so ronery


12 posted on 06/22/2007 9:09:53 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2 (Thompson/ 08)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Image and video hosting by TinyPic I Still RONERY !!!
13 posted on 06/22/2007 9:10:10 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: borntoraisehogs
I hope the “company” did a better job

German doctors?

14 posted on 06/22/2007 9:10:15 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He probably just ate some tainted gluten from China.


15 posted on 06/22/2007 9:12:09 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

16 posted on 06/22/2007 9:12:45 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So who’ll be the successor to the “Dear Leader” who was the successor to the “Great Leader”? Taking it to the logical conclusion, it should be “Gay Leader”!


17 posted on 06/22/2007 9:14:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tertiary syphillis??


18 posted on 06/22/2007 9:17:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Bow Wow!


19 posted on 06/22/2007 9:17:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Lord will not be mocked forever.

Sounds like lil Kim’s time is coming to a close.

Maybe they’ll join the human race.


20 posted on 06/22/2007 9:18:13 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Crap happens.


21 posted on 06/22/2007 9:18:22 PM PDT by The Mayor (http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: Revolting cat!
No, it’s Chia Leader.:-)
22 posted on 06/22/2007 9:18:50 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Elvis is smiling.


23 posted on 06/22/2007 9:21:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“Who is the successor to the ‘dear leader’”

Whomever the Chinese say. They are in charge of the situation there, or at least, have a lot to say about things. Great Leader (Dead Jong-Il) was the pet project of Chairman Mao, but the current leadership view Dear Leader (Ill Jong-Il) as “bad for business”.

The Chinese became alarmed enough after the faux nuke explosion to step in and suggest that they’d be willing to facilitate regime change — and that has brought us to the point where an American diplomat can come to DPRK and talk.


24 posted on 06/22/2007 9:22:15 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe we can lose him and Castro on the same day???


25 posted on 06/22/2007 9:26:25 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: ModelBreaker

“May he find his Savior in his final moments. “

BTW, it’s possible that his father, Kim Il Sung, did do. (The elder Kim’s mother was a Christian.) Kim built a church and allowed Billy Graham to address a large assembly of army officers. (Having not been told how they were to respond, they all sat silently without expression.) He also apparently was going to route the succession to his own younger brother instead of Kim Jung Il, and modify the regime’s strictness. But suddenly he—and quite possibly some other top officials—abruptly died, perhaps all on the same day. (Coincidence, of course...)

PyongYang used to be known as the “Jerusalem” of Korea, with many churches (before the communist takeover.)


26 posted on 06/22/2007 9:46:27 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Kim regime in North Korea would be condemned by the likes of Lenin or even Stalin, as Kim Il Sung and his depraved son Kim Jong Il blended what was once considered pure Communist ideology with the worst kind of nepotism and dynastic behavior.

The Kims came up with that whole ‘juche’ philosophy which is nothing more than rehashed ‘self-determination’, and with this latest news out of Pyongyang?

It means that Number One Juchebag is about to check out!


27 posted on 06/22/2007 9:48:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: al baby

Yes he is. Earlier this year he even showed some improvement but he is still in a coma.


28 posted on 06/22/2007 10:03:54 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Taylor42
Maybe we can lose him and Castro on the same day???

Come to think of it, I haven't heard of any updates on Franco lately.

29 posted on 06/22/2007 10:07:16 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So who is in line to succeed the old jerk?


30 posted on 06/22/2007 10:17:05 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
3-way power struggle: Kim’s eldest son(Kim Jong-nam), second and third son duo(Jung-chol & Jung-un,) and Kim’s new wife Kim OK
31 posted on 06/22/2007 10:22:55 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

“Me so ronery”


32 posted on 06/22/2007 10:42:39 PM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback, pollywogs! 1980)
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To: Taylor42

How about throwing in a few of our favorite Rats as well?


33 posted on 06/22/2007 10:48:01 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


34 posted on 06/22/2007 10:55:02 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: CondorFlight

Ruth Graham spent some of her childhood in what’s now North Korea as a missionary’s daughter, did she not?


36 posted on 06/22/2007 11:01:16 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wonder, was it the Kentucky bourbon or the Tennessee sour mash whiskey that did him in?


37 posted on 06/22/2007 11:03:03 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Someone posted the most likely successions awhile back. Did you save that post?


39 posted on 06/23/2007 12:22:49 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Did he host any Russian visitors bearing Polonium?


40 posted on 06/23/2007 12:50:55 AM PDT by Does so
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To: spockz_brain; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo
I was going to cuss you out for posting a link to an ideogram site, but being in a magnanimous mood, I'll help you out.

Why don't you try hanging out for a while rather than jumping in and foolishly criticizing one of the most valuable members of Free Republic?

It is clear that you have failed to realize that the poster, TigerLikesRooster, has personally translated the article into fluent English for our benefit. That's the reason for the "/begin my translation " and "/end my translation" blocks.

By the way, welcome to Free Republic. I don't think you are going to be around for long, and certainly not if you are just going to wing it and start criticizing things that you don't even understand --- and for that matter, Korean Hangul is not even ideogrammatic, it's alphabetic.

There are a few posters here who post original translations, generally from Korean and Japanese. I believe that TigerLikesRooster is the most prolific, with AmericanInTokyo the second most.

41 posted on 06/23/2007 3:17:32 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe Following Leader?


42 posted on 06/23/2007 3:44:40 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: TigerLikesRooster
In your opinion,given that Kim has not formally chosen a successor, what happens if say he goes into a diabetic coma and dies suddenly?

Do we see a power struggle within the military for control?

43 posted on 06/23/2007 4:06:17 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: spockz_brain

He didn’t post a link to an ideogram site. The Korean’s have phonetic alphabet just like we do. It dates back to the 15th century. Get your facts right.


44 posted on 06/23/2007 4:31:37 AM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This much is certain: Kim Jong is really Ill.

Does he have an appointed successor or could there be a power free-for-all?

45 posted on 06/23/2007 4:35:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I just hope it’s painful...that’s all.


46 posted on 06/23/2007 4:38:04 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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3-way power struggle: Kim’s eldest son(Kim Jong-nam), second and third son duo(Jung-chol & Jung-un,) and Kim’s new wife Kim OK

In your opinion what's the likely outcome? From what little I remember of the Kim kids being in the news none of them seem to be overly bright - didn't one try to sneak into Japan on a fake passport to go to Disneyland? Is one faction smarter or more cunning than the others? Is there one that the military seems to prefer over the others?

47 posted on 06/23/2007 4:39:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Terima Kasih!

Nice to see you are on the ball up there.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

48 posted on 06/23/2007 4:41:02 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: ModelBreaker

Of course here comes at least a hundred comments hoping for a gruesome and painful death.
When he dies, we are faced with an unknown.
A known enemy is far better than an unknown one.
He has already proved that even though he is into alot of military bells and whistles, he is not a serious threat.
He might be replaced by someone as volatile as Castro in his early years. Then, all bets are off.

I hate it when some idjit just spouts the party line.


49 posted on 06/23/2007 4:47:36 AM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

See my comment #31.


50 posted on 06/23/2007 5:33:58 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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