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FNC airs film banned by PBS 9pm tonite (vanity)
Fox News Channel ^ | Friday, June 22, 2007 | Fox News

Posted on 06/23/2007 9:56:36 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68

Banned by PBS: Muslims Against Jihad

Saturday, June 23 at 9 p.m. ET Repeats Sunday, June 24 at 3 a.m. ET Hosted by E.D. Hill

Tune in this weekend, as FOX News Channel presents the documentary the Public Broadcasting System didn't want you to see.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americaatacrossroads; banned; bannedbypbs; censorship; defundpbsnpr; fnc; foxnews; islam; islamvsislamists; muslimsagainstjihad; pbs
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Tune in this weekend, as FOX News Channel presents the documentary the Public Broadcasting System didn't want you to see.

It's a film about the difference between moderate Muslims and the radicals who want to kill us. It asks where are the moderate Muslims and why aren't they speaking out against the jihadists? And it was financed with $675,000 of taxpayers' money.

It was commissioned as part of the PBS series "America at the Crossroads" about the post 9/11 world, but PBS executives rejected it. PBS claims the filmmakers were "alarmist, overreaching and unfair."

The filmmakers say they were censored because of liberal bias at PBS.

On a topic this important, we think you have the right to decide for yourself. 888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

earlier thread today about this production......I reposted this here as a vanity in order for the title to read as it does above. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1855064/posts?page=1

1 posted on 06/23/2007 9:56:38 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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tonite Saturday, June 23 at 9 p.m. ET

Repeats Sunday, June 24 at 3 a.m.


2 posted on 06/23/2007 9:57:43 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
BUMP

BANNED BY PBS

3 posted on 06/23/2007 9:58:03 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll set the DVR to record it.
This has never been broadcast?


4 posted on 06/23/2007 10:00:39 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

I read something about one or maybe a few CPB stations in (I think) Oregon having aired it or maybe they intended to....that and the two private airings in the pieces in the other thread is all I know about.


5 posted on 06/23/2007 10:05:16 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Liberty Valance

BUMP

Hope the DVD turns out well. Maybe it will eventually be available commercially in DVD format.

Basic cable only in my home, so no Fox News. Delighted to see the PBS folks sidestepped. Liberals distrust the capacity for normal people to think for themselves.


6 posted on 06/23/2007 10:07:08 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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Will be ready on couch with a bag of pork rinds ready in honor of the prophet.


7 posted on 06/23/2007 10:12:07 AM PDT by CitadelArmyJag ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions" G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Valin

FYI


8 posted on 06/23/2007 10:19:14 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

IIRC, Brian Lamb devoted an hour or two to this controversy in the last month. I wish I knew how to find the program.


9 posted on 06/23/2007 10:25:02 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

I’ll try to find it on C-Span

from the other thread:

There’s a 2min video clip here.
http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/
8 posted on 06/23/2007 10:46:27 AM EDT by nuconvert


10 posted on 06/23/2007 10:28:48 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: leadpenny

this link will take you directly to the vid in post 10 above.....they force you to watch a commercial first....then E.D. and Martin Burke come on.....

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?062107/062107_foxfan_pbs&FOX_Fan&Banned%20By%20PBS&acc&FOX%20Fan&-1&FOX%20Fan&228&&&exp


11 posted on 06/23/2007 10:45:58 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
There seems to be mass confusion about this.
It may not be the PBS documentary, but a discussion of it -- essentially a waste of time.

Nothing new and useful can come out of it about islam that an engaged informed citizen doesn't already know.

I am looking forward to the PBS documentary if it is ever turned loose by the politically correct nannies.
PC is killing us...

12 posted on 06/23/2007 10:54:57 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961
There seems to be mass confusion about this. It may not be the PBS documentary,

I'll admit I'm confused. The titles are different and the Fox information doesn't give info on the editor/producers? Strange.

13 posted on 06/23/2007 10:59:32 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Publius6961

yeah, well, click the link in post #11 and then argue with Fox News about it......all I am willing to say is that the name has been changed......and that I’ll bet that some or all of what PBS had them remove has been restored for FOX


14 posted on 06/23/2007 10:59:59 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I’ve looked back over a month’s worth of programs on C-SPAN and couldn’t find it. As I remember, it was about tax payer money being put up to produce a program and most PBS stations refused to show it. It involded PBS, CPB and other players. Bottom line, it smelled of censorship. WETA in DC was a culprit in there too.


15 posted on 06/23/2007 11:05:45 AM PDT by leadpenny
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http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0410maceachern0410.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27868

Islam vs. Islamist is the name of the banned film, althought it may have been renamed...I can tell what Fox is showing tonight.


16 posted on 06/23/2007 11:06:04 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Publius6961; Drango

13 replies · 516+ views

as of right now, there are 516 teevees that may be on FNC at 9pm tonite or tomorrow.....that’s what I wanted :)

skroo PBS and shame on them for wasting our money!


17 posted on 06/23/2007 11:07:18 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Actually, WETA is in Arlington, Virginia. That should tell you something right there.


18 posted on 06/23/2007 11:07:19 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Publius6961

The PBS sanctioned programs barely mentioned CAIR, denied all links between those at CAIR and terrorist groups, and called the critics of CAIR a small vocal minority of conservative critics and supporters of Israel.

A completely unfair and partisan and antisemitic portrayl of those critical of the PRO-TERRORIST, PRO-ISLAMIC SUPREMACIST, PRO-ISLAMIC IMPERIALIST shill PR group CAIR.


19 posted on 06/23/2007 11:10:49 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: leadpenny

I tried searching booknotes and couldn’t get anything newer than 2004


20 posted on 06/23/2007 11:12:19 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Right. I looked through the recent Q&A programs. I’m certain Brian Lamb hosted, so it was a Friday. He only does Fridays for Washington Journal.


21 posted on 06/23/2007 11:17:38 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

btttt


22 posted on 06/23/2007 11:17:44 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
THANKS, for the post.....hadn't heard it was being aired...been on FR/work...in that order :D
23 posted on 06/23/2007 11:21:31 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( just b/c, you suffer from paranoia, doesn't mean they're not out to get you....Run, Fred, Run :^)
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To: CitadelArmyJag
Will be ready on couch with a bag of pork rinds ready in honor of the prophet

....fine eating. :D
...and/or Chinese Pork Fried dumplings

24 posted on 06/23/2007 11:24:27 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( just b/c, you suffer from paranoia, doesn't mean they're not out to get you....Run, Fred, Run :^)
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To: leadpenny; All

I found a Frank Gaffney piece re this dated 5/30/07:

TO THE BACK OF CPB’S BUS
By Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. | May 30, 2007

Last Wednesday, the Oregon Public Broadcasting Service announced it had reached an agreement with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) that seemed, at first blush, to represent a breakthrough: The national Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) would no longer prevent the airing of a film CPB commissioned as part of its “America at a Crossroads” series called “Islam vs. Islamists: Voices from the Muslim Center.” Instead, PBS’ Oregon stations would make it available to the more than 350 other affiliates across the country.
As one of the film’s co-executive producers, I began to receive a number of congratulatory messages from all over the country. Most were from people who had followed the saga of this documentary about moderate Muslims who have courageously challenged co-religionists known as Islamists — adherents to a totalitarian political ideology seeking to dominate the Muslim faith and, in turn, the world. Like innumerable editorialists, bloggers and ordinary citizens around the country, the authors of these messages had been frustrated and outraged when PBS and its Washington flagship, WETA, culminated months of efforts to alter and then censor “Islam vs. Islamists” by refusing to broadcast it, as planned, as part of the “Crossroads” series rolled out last month. They assumed the Oregon announcement meant national distribution was imminent.
Unfortunately, the CPB’s arrangement with the Oregon PBS means no such thing. Far from the treatment accorded other “Crossroads” series programs — nationwide broadcast by the Public Broadcasting Service, in prime-time with a substantial promotional budget — “Islam vs. Islamists” would simply be “made available” to PBS stations. Maybe some would decide to run it over the next few months. Maybe they would do so at 3 a.m. or Sunday afternoons when practically no one is watching. There are no guarantees of pick-up in any, let alone all, major markets.
Worse yet, the Oregon distributors have announced they will accompany the film with the equivalent of a consumer warning label — a “discussion” that will provide “context” for viewers. Presumably, this means the sort of “context” our film’s critics at PBS and WETA kept trying to impose on us: Changes they believed would make it, in their words, less “one-sided” (read, fairer to the Islamists) and less “alarmist.”
If past practice is any guide, those recruited to provide such “balance” will likely be representatives of organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Muslim Students Association (MSA). Though these groups are well-known Saudi-funded, pro-Islamist fronts, their views were exclusively and highly sympathetically featured in a documentary called “The Muslim Americans.” PBS seemed to have no reservations about airing this wholly one-sided film during the “Crossroads” series roll-out in April.
In short, now that widespread criticism has made it impossible to sustain PBS’ suppression of “Islam vs. Islamists,” the anti-Islamist Muslims who are its subjects are to be remanded to decidedly second-class coverage. Call it CPB’s version of the “Rosa Parks treatment.”
Recall that Rosa Parks could have got to her job via public transportation — as long as she “knew her place” and agreed to ride in the back of the bus. So, too, moderate Muslims can have their stories, as recorded in a film produced with some $675,000 in public monies, shown on the public airwaves — in at least a few locations at some point in time.
But these heroic figures must know their place, too. And their place is not in prime time, nor national distribution. Only Islamists and their apologists are entitled to front-of-the-bus treatment from those like Robert MacNeil (the host of the “Crossroads” series and producer — thanks to a sweetheart deal — of “The Muslim Americans” show), Sharon Percy Rockefeller (wife of one senator and daughter of a former senator, Jay Rockefeller and Charles Percy, respectively, and president of WETA) and the handful of others responsible for PBS’ rejection of “Islam vs. Islamists.”
If ever there were a time when the American people are entitled to the most comprehensive presentation possible of information concerning the struggle for the soul and future of Islam, this should be it. After all, last week a Pew Research poll found roughly a quarter of the Muslim-American population thinks suicide bombing is legitimate in at least some circumstances. An even larger percentage claimed not to believe that Arabs perpetrated the attacks of on America of September 11, 2001.
The particular irony is that the whole idea behind “America at a Crossroads” was that it was intended to offer the American people 20 programs featuring differing viewpoints and a variety of stories that would, taken together, help inform the public about the post-September 11 world. This creative vision demands that the experiences and warnings of authentically moderate, pro-democratic and tolerant Muslims be treated at least as favorably as the portrayal of those in the Muslim community determined to stifle their voices. Certainly, public broadcasting should not be party to such suppression.
A bipartisan group of legislators have called for prompt, national distribution of “Islam vs. Islamists.” They have been as impressed by the quality of the film PBS doesn’t want you to see as they are outraged by how people entrusted with responsibility for the public airwaves have handled it and those involved in its production. The “Rosa Parks” treatment is not what they have in mind, what the courageous anti-Islamist Muslims deserve, nor what will be acceptable to the national audience that expects to be able to view this documentary without further delay.
http://www.warfooting.com/Blog/newsID.666/news_detail.asp


25 posted on 06/23/2007 11:52:21 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Drango

They were talking about this last night on Hannity. From what I gathered, there are TWO documentaries, one which PBS won’t release. I don’t know if this is a companion piece or what the filmakers made with unused stuff.


26 posted on 06/23/2007 11:55:57 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: CitadelArmyJag

“Will be ready on couch with a bag of pork rinds ready in honor of the prophet.”

I just put a pork shoulder on the smoker. Should be ready just in time for this program.


27 posted on 06/23/2007 11:59:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Very good.

I just remembered something else. During the C-SPAN program, they weren’t even allowed to show any clips from the documentary. This is real progress.


28 posted on 06/23/2007 12:17:13 PM PDT by leadpenny
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A transcript of a get-together as CPB was beginning to hatch the “America at the Crossroads” series. 23 pages of Q & A, here is the first 2 paragraphs....

CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING
CHICAGO EVENT
MODERATOR:
MICHAEL PACK
MAY 11, 2004

MICHAEL PACK: Thank you all for coming. I’m Michael Pack, senior VP for Television Programming at the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. And I’ve come to talk to you about our new initiative, America at a Crossroads. I’ve brought Jim Denton, who is a consultant for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and sort of the mastermind of the structure and running of the initiative, and two guests who will speak later. I will give you a little background, then ask our speakers to address some of the issues, and finally take questions from the audience, either questions for me and questions for the panelists.
When I came to CPB a little over a year ago, the board and the leadership gave me a directive to come up with strategic initiatives in the areas of public affairs and education. So with my team, I traveled around the country. We visited PBS stations, including TTW, and experts in various places. We quickly decided that in the public affairs realm, the big issues facing America were those brought about by September 11th. Where is America headed with the war on terror? What is radical Islam? What about the PATRIOT Act and civil liberties? What kind of role should we have in the world? How is our relationship with Europe changing?
http://www.cpb.org/grants/crossroads/chicago_transcript.pdf


29 posted on 06/23/2007 12:18:32 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: leadpenny

try this:

Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy, Pres. & CEO

Frank Gaffney, Pres. & CEO of the Center for Security Policy, discusses his documentary, “Islam vs Islamists.” PBS decided not to include the film in its “America at a Crossroads” series.
http://podcast.rbn.com/cspan/cspan/download/podaudio/qa060307.mp3

I found it 4th from the bottom on this thread:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:jttcuNpp_sgJ:www.capitolgrilling.com/forums/ubbthreads.php%3Fubb%3Dshowflat%26Number%3D168665%26page%3D1%26PHPSESSID%3D41e95f2b6a559f18700e671b4cdb5198+%22brian+lamb%22+PBS&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=21&gl=us&client=firefox-a


30 posted on 06/23/2007 1:27:19 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yeee-haawwwww! I just made a fresh batch of red sauce for my pasta meal tonight....in honor of the show, I am gonna add some sausage!....some real, PORK sausage....oink, oink, oink. -—PastaMan


31 posted on 06/23/2007 1:32:03 PM PDT by PastaMan
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Outstanding. You’re relentless.

http://www.q-and-a.org/Program/index.asp?ProgramID=1129

It was a Q&A.

I have to admit, I know who Frank Gaffney is but when I was searching earlier and saw that program, it didn’t ring a bell. Could it be a bad case of CRS with this old Nam Vet?

Hey, that Q&A is provocative.


32 posted on 06/23/2007 3:06:38 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

It solved the “mystery”, tho....at about 10 mins into it Gaffney explains that they had made a second documentary, which CPB flat-out rejected.....I presume there is absolutely no pseudo or real proprietary issue with THAT one, and that it is what we’ll see tonite. FWIW, I saw Burke on FNC today, he said that the “second half” was basically the meat of it, so it’ll be well worth watching.


33 posted on 06/23/2007 3:29:25 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I’m looking forward to it.

You’ve created a good buzz for this program. I hope the Socialists at WETA are watching this evening.


34 posted on 06/23/2007 3:39:27 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

On 06/23/2007 12:56:36 PM EDT ·

33 replies · 1,011+ views


35 posted on 06/23/2007 3:44:25 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Ping - watch tonight.


36 posted on 06/23/2007 4:45:10 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: All

Damn that whorealdo and his face-time pimping of an extended rerun of the Ohio story..........It looks like he cried to management and got the islamic film pre-empted in deference to him!

I’ll be setting my alarm for 3am to watch Gaffney/Burke film then....


37 posted on 06/23/2007 6:09:29 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Exactly, why should we care about one of many murders when there are actual ISSUES that people need to be aware of.

This just furthers my opinion that the media are nothing but attention whores.


38 posted on 06/23/2007 6:11:05 PM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Effin Geraldo!!


39 posted on 06/23/2007 6:17:21 PM PDT by MrCFdovnh
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Isn’t the preemption of this program for Geraldo on this maudlinm horse manure outrageous! Bobby Cutts Jr. confessed this afternoon!


40 posted on 06/23/2007 6:19:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Is that the deal? 3 a.m.?


41 posted on 06/23/2007 6:19:27 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I’m so pissed off that the Whorealldoe has to play Greta Van Sustren and something i’ve been waiting for months to see has been postponed.

Jesus Christ in a handbasket... TWO FRIKKIN HOURS to show the same interview from this afternoon endlessly and have every ego maniac lawyer on tv bloaviating..

this is why i cant stand the media.


42 posted on 06/23/2007 6:27:42 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: leadpenny

Saturday, June 23 at 9 p.m. ET - scratched for whorealdo

I’d have a looksee at 10pm though, as the documentary would have still been showing at 10.....possibly they only rolled it back 1 hour?

if not, I’m getting up at 3am.....

Repeats Sunday, June 24 at 3 a.m. ET
Hosted by E.D. Hill


43 posted on 06/23/2007 6:43:53 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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If this is true, THIS IS THE LAST STRAW, GERALDO.....the very last straw. What a jherk!


44 posted on 06/23/2007 6:56:21 PM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Well it’s not on at 10pm.. Fox News needs a THIRD CONTINIOUS HOUR on showing the past week’s press conferences and the same egomaniacs to opine about how we dont know all the facts yet.

Disgraceful


45 posted on 06/23/2007 7:03:07 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: pacelvi; Vn_survivor_67-68

My VCR will be taping it at 3AM


46 posted on 06/23/2007 7:18:34 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: pacelvi

geraldos career is in the tank because he believes in absolutely nothing except the imaginary entitlements he thinks America owes to turd world “hispanics”. He is desperate for facetime......he belongs on El Mundo, not FOX!


47 posted on 06/23/2007 7:19:28 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thanks for the info! I missed the first one but I’ll catch the 3:00 AM show.


48 posted on 06/23/2007 7:22:22 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: dennisw

It runs for 1 1/2 hrs - 3:00am - 4:30am.......unless we get re-re-re-reruns of geraldo and Kim Burly


49 posted on 06/23/2007 7:27:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
geraldos career is in the tank because he believes in absolutely nothing except the imaginary entitlements he thinks America owes to turd world “hispanics”. He is desperate for facetime......he belongs on El Mundo, not FOX!

Geraldo is a wacko. He is half Jewish but barely acknowledges that part of his heritage in his autobiography. Which I read last year
He never marries Hispanic woman. Only white ones. He's a nut! He carried on about his sons being discriminated in the future due to being Hispanic when reality is they are only one quarter Hispanic And on and on and on

50 posted on 06/23/2007 7:43:59 PM PDT by dennisw
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