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Gardasil has booth in WalMart
Self | June 23, 2007 | DJMacWoW

Posted on 06/23/2007 11:27:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

Hubby went to WalMart in Pennsylvania today. At the main entrance is a Gardasil booth handing out pamphlets. There was a line of parents so Hubby started a rant. He asked the woman why not just teach your daughters to keep their knickers on? Her answer was because they won't. Hubby responded that our daughter is in her 20's and still a virgin. She responded that daughters lie. He offered to let our "female tiger" talk to her.

At that point the woman asked if he was on his cellphone. He said "Yes" And how about this not being tested on 9 to 11 yr olds, your target group" She responded that it's been tested on 12 year olds. He said "You have no idea what the longterm affects of this drug are on reproduction"

At that point she didn't want to spar anymore and said "It's safe". But by then Hubby had already planted doubts and the parents in line had heard it all. I LOVE Hubby.

Anyone else need to visit a WalMart today?


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KEYWORDS: gardasil; hpv; hpvvaccine; humanpapillomavirus; merck; moralabsolutes; vaccinations; walmart
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Hubby wants to take our Freeper daughter back and confront the lib pushing Gardasil. I'm thinking that they might get ejected from the store.
1 posted on 06/23/2007 11:27:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good for your husband (and daughter!).

My doctor mentioned the vaccine when I had my 9-year-old daughter in for her camp physical recently, but she (the doctor) kind of shook her head in a disgusted way.


2 posted on 06/23/2007 11:30:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good to hear the Taliban is alive and well in America.


3 posted on 06/23/2007 11:31:26 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: DJ MacWoW
She responded that it's been tested on 12 year olds.

It's been a long time since my research days but I think this is unethical.

Kudos to your hubby! Great job!

4 posted on 06/23/2007 11:33:12 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Tax-chick

If they can’t get the states to make it mandatory, they’ll go directly to the parents with their propaganda.


5 posted on 06/23/2007 11:33:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

just who is your husband to question the judgment of a mother of a sexually active 12 year old ???

/sarc off


6 posted on 06/23/2007 11:34:13 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Merck was to test it this spring on 100 Japanese girls, 9 to 11 or 12. I haven’t checked if they did that. The girls tested in several countries were all 16 to 25.


7 posted on 06/23/2007 11:35:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: leda

Ping. FYI

I’ll check back when I get home this evening.


8 posted on 06/23/2007 11:37:56 AM PDT by Gabz (My karma ran over your dogma)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why just girls?


9 posted on 06/23/2007 11:38:46 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: EDINVA
LOL!

He told the woman that HPV was an STD and she tried to say that it wasn't. He told her if it's sexually transmitted, it's an STD. The parents that were standing there didn't realise the cancer this "guarded" against is only transmitted sexually. God Bless him, those parents heard facts.

10 posted on 06/23/2007 11:40:00 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s just wrong.

I remember when I worked psych it was controversial (although allowed) to give the antidepressants to the kids. They were approved for use with adults but not children. There were a few drugs like that.


11 posted on 06/23/2007 11:40:27 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: ClaireSolt

Uh, last time I checked it was pretty hard for boys to get cervical cancer.


12 posted on 06/23/2007 11:41:50 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: ClaireSolt
Why just girls?

I haven't kept up with this but the last thing I read said they were thinking of testing it on boys too.

13 posted on 06/23/2007 11:41:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

If memory serves, this was tested on women who found
it caused menstrual pain, and therefore
it is being forced on younger girls in the hope
the side effects will be averted.

As to longterm oncogenic effects, what if that
takes 10 to 20 years?


14 posted on 06/23/2007 11:42:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: FremontLives; ClaireSolt
Uh, last time I checked it was pretty hard for boys to get cervical cancer.

Yes but boys can spread the virus.

15 posted on 06/23/2007 11:43:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
That’s just wrong.

I agree. And what parent lets their child be a guinea pig?

16 posted on 06/23/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: FremontLives
Good to hear the Taliban is alive and well in America.

LOL. I've got a big problem with the state making it mandatory. If parents want to get for their kids in private commerce, more power to them.

Then again, if a Bible-thumper's daughter ends up with an STD-related cancer, I'm sure there are a few passages of scripture that can be quoted..."wages of sin are death," etc. Few things are more absurd than interpreting holy books to promote death and disease as the will of God. The flip side of the "touchdown Jesus" coin. Same alternative reality that believes the harder one thumps a Bible, the less likely it is a child will have sex before 18.




17 posted on 06/23/2007 11:47:38 AM PDT by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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To: peyton randolph

It’s nice to see I have at least one kindred spirit on here. I’m sure we’ll both be banned shortly.


18 posted on 06/23/2007 11:50:11 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You really have to wonder about some parents. What replaces the brain in their heads? They are encouraging possiby a lifetime of suffering and agony for their own children.

Is there a medical term more readily understandable than Sexually - Transmited - Disease ????? You don’t get them from genes or even second-hand smoke.

I join you in blessing your husband for possibly saving some young girls by diminishing their parents’ ignorance.


19 posted on 06/23/2007 11:50:41 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: peyton randolph; FremontLives

I don’t quite understand your posts but that’s ok. This is just common sense. You don’t give a prepubescent girl a drug that isn’t proven safe for the age group. What affect will it have on reproduction? They don’t know. Is one shot enough? They don’t know. My kid isn’t a guinea pig or a goldmine for Merck.


20 posted on 06/23/2007 11:56:28 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m upset that this was at Walmart. Sam must be spinning in his grave.


21 posted on 06/23/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That’s not what the original poster was talking about at all and you know it.


22 posted on 06/23/2007 11:59:33 AM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: FremontLives
Uh, last time I checked it was pretty hard for boys to get cervical cancer.

But they can get HPV. If this is a vaccine against the virus, shouldn't it be tested on men as well?

23 posted on 06/23/2007 12:00:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: peyton randolph
Then again, if a Bible-thumper's daughter ends up with an STD-related cancer, I'm sure there are a few passages of scripture that can be quoted..."wages of sin are death," etc.

Well, since this particular dad has obviously taught his daughter that this particular STD can cause cancer, perhaps she will be one of those who actually keeps herself pure until marriage.

In the meantime, parents are being lead down the primrose path by this pharmaceutical company, making them believe this vaccine will prevent cervical cancer (which it won't.)

24 posted on 06/23/2007 12:03:48 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: FremontLives
That’s not what the original poster was talking about at all and you know it.

I AM the original poster. This is common sense. No sex-no STD. I never mentioned the Bible so WHAT are you nattering about?

25 posted on 06/23/2007 12:04:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: EDINVA

All of the times that I went on and on about what I had learned! I thought he wasn’t listening. LOL


26 posted on 06/23/2007 12:06:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: peggybac

I was shocked that it was WalMart. They must not have been listening when this broke in the news. I wonder if it is just this WalMart or all of them?


27 posted on 06/23/2007 12:08:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Men can get cancer from HPV too. And they can spread HPV.

Only girls are getting the treatment. Why? Because they can claim its a “women’s reproductive rights” issue?

When it was mandatory in some states, how did that defend “rights”?


28 posted on 06/23/2007 12:08:17 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: FremontLives; peyton randolph
It’s nice to see I have at least one kindred spirit on here. I’m sure we’ll both be banned shortly.

It's nice to see that you kindred spirits are both on here not really discussing facts, but just bashing "Bible thumpers", as you call them. I, for one, don't want you banned, it's too entertaining.
29 posted on 06/23/2007 12:08:17 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: FremontLives
You anti-religion bigotry is showing. I fail to see where the original poster mentioned any religion. You jumped straight to your attack line - a classic liberal ploy.

The posters were merely arguing that their daughters are better than dogs. They can apparently control their urges. You and your poster buddy apparently cannot.

30 posted on 06/23/2007 12:08:18 PM PDT by StoneWallJack
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To: DJ MacWoW

It was more of a general rant actually. If that was truly the point, I apologize. What the hell is your husband doing disclosing your daughter’s sexual history to strangers though?


31 posted on 06/23/2007 12:09:54 PM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: DJ MacWoW
How did the mandate for young girls to take this vaccine go in Texas?

Those parents with autistic children regret having given their children the mandated vaccine with Mercury.

32 posted on 06/23/2007 12:09:57 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: StoneWallJack

How dare you question my faith? Seriously. You’re the one crying bigotry, liberal.


34 posted on 06/23/2007 12:12:19 PM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: FremontLives

You apparently question your own faith. Why would I have to do so?


35 posted on 06/23/2007 12:15:45 PM PDT by StoneWallJack
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To: DJ MacWoW

personally i would have gone into walmart and informed the manager that i was leaving to go call the main headquarters and ask why walmart was allowing this booth to be out front....then i would have called and asked...kudos to your hubby...but we need to follow through and let our rants hurt where the pocket is.


36 posted on 06/23/2007 12:16:11 PM PDT by donnab
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To: StoneWallJack

Classic retard zen.


37 posted on 06/23/2007 12:17:48 PM PDT by FremontLives (If I must choose between righteousness and peace, I choose righteousness- Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: DJ MacWoW

How is a 16-year-old competent enough to make a fully-informed deicision about a drug being tested on her? How can she possibly give her permission and it be legally valid, seeing as how she’s underage?


38 posted on 06/23/2007 12:22:06 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: FremontLives
It was more of a general rant actually. If that was truly the point, I apologize.

Actually this subject doesn't need a "Bible rant". Hubby certainly wasn't using Scripture. Just common sense. The facts are scary and don't need anything more than simple disclosure.

What the hell is your husband doing disclosing your daughter’s sexual history to strangers though?

Daughter says to tell you that "virgin" isn't a dirty word and that she has higher expectations for herself than to be a "mattress pad" and "bragging rights".

39 posted on 06/23/2007 12:23:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You don’t give a prepubescent girl a drug that isn’t proven safe for the age group. What affect will it have on reproduction? They don’t know. Is one shot enough? They don’t know. My kid isn’t a guinea pig or a goldmine for Merck.

@@@@@

$360 for the planned series of three shots for about 1or 2 million girls every year is definitely a gold mine for Merck. If I owned their stock, I would have to sell it! just to feel clean again.

3 deaths plus hundreds of serious adverse reactions have been recorded, but that will never get mentioned to gullible parents and corrupt legislators.

Apparently, it does not give a lifetime immunity either, so if a 12 year old gets the injections and stays a virgin until she is 20, she might as well have not gotten the shots. What a scam!


40 posted on 06/23/2007 12:23:31 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: donnab

I want to gather some info and facts and then call WalMart. I need disclosure dates of pertinent info on Gardasil.


41 posted on 06/23/2007 12:25:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
IMHO, Walmart has this booth as the drug company is targeting poor, minority families. IIRC, the original studies were done in poor, predominantly minority areas, etc. The girls were virtual guinea pigs as the parents were not educated or informed properly.

That fact alone, raises a whole host of issues.

42 posted on 06/23/2007 12:25:47 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: peyton randolph

I find your phraseology quite offensive.


44 posted on 06/23/2007 12:29:15 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: FremontLives

Your use of “bible thumpers” directly points to your state of mind - talk about “retard zen.”

Note: You started the thread with an insult to many folks. You can end it with an apology.


45 posted on 06/23/2007 12:29:42 PM PDT by StoneWallJack
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To: MEGoody
Well, since this particular dad has obviously taught his daughter that this particular STD can cause cancer, perhaps she will be one of those who actually keeps herself pure until marriage.

But what happens if the man she marries happens to pass along this virus? Won't matter that she was a virgin.

46 posted on 06/23/2007 12:30:57 PM PDT by jimmccleod
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To: DJ MacWoW

May 23, 2007 Contact: Press Office
202-646-5188

Judicial Watch Uncovers Three Deaths Relating to HPV Vaccine

Event Reports Obtained from FDA Detail 1,637 Adverse Reactions to Gardasil
http://www.judicialwatch.org/6299.shtml

Washington, DC) — Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released documents obtained from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, detailing 1,637 reports of adverse reactions to the vaccination for human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil. Three deaths were related to the vaccine. One physician’s assistant reported that a female patient “died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine.” Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.

As of May 11, 2007, the 1,637 adverse vaccination reactions reported to the FDA via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) included 371 serious reactions. Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormities.

-—snip-—


47 posted on 06/23/2007 12:31:41 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And then the parents will just have to smack them down hard.


48 posted on 06/23/2007 12:31:52 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Just do a FR search on the Gardasil threads. All the data and info you could ever want is there.:)

BTW, did you know that drug companies are virtually immune (no pun intended) to lawsuits resulting in “vaccine problems”? Some pesky legislation that was pushed through back in the 80's. Hope you are all having an “aha” moment after reading this.

49 posted on 06/23/2007 12:32:37 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: khnyny

Funny thing is, this is a well to do area. Although there ARE poor people from a neighboring town that shop there. You’re probably right. And WalMart WILL get a call.


50 posted on 06/23/2007 12:33:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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