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Road crew bludgeons hurt deer on I-440 (officer refused to shoot injured deer)
Tennessean | 6-23-07 | howard

Posted on 06/24/2007 11:32:41 AM PDT by wardaddy

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070624/NEWS01/706240398


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animalrights; banglist; leo; nashville; roadkill
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To: holyscroller
Re; The critter on the roof. How’d you get him up there???

I wouldn't know. I found the pic on the Internet. :^)

41 posted on 06/24/2007 8:30:19 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Dumpster Baby

“You killed Bambi !!”we used to cojsider Bambi camp meat the day before the season opened.


42 posted on 06/24/2007 8:36:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Recall Em All

In the state of Washington if it is deer season, and you have the appropriate tag, and you tag the critter you may claim the road kill. Otherwise, it rots. If you take it you get arrested, because the state doesn’t want people hunting year round with their vehicles.
I investigated a van/bear collision. The bear was dead. The game warden would not allow anyone to take the bear. It was going to rot. I advised a couple of guys that were eyeballing the bear that I would be leaving and not returning for a couple of hours, and that I would be real surprised if the bear was still there. It wasn’t.


43 posted on 06/24/2007 8:39:55 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Eaker
I am having some trouble thinking of a situation that cannot be made safe to shoot a deer with a handgun.

Me too.

44 posted on 06/25/2007 3:19:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wardaddy
Well, THAT sounds conclusive.

It supports my theory that police departments and sheriff's offices are now so afraid of liability that they can no longer train their people or establish or endorse procedures that would actually involve getting the job done.

45 posted on 06/25/2007 3:22:57 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

our local cops have a “call list” for people to come get road kill. cheaper and faster to have a couple local boys come grab it than to have the county/ state paid workers come clean it up.


46 posted on 06/25/2007 6:16:47 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: Drew68
Many moons ago my buddy and I were driving down a lonely Colorado road and WHACK!!!! Out of nowhere we hit a deer. We pull over to assess the situation and the deer was deader than dead. We hadn't been pulled over 30 seconds when a truck pulls up behind us. "Hey! You guys want that?"

The exact same thing happened to my brother and I just ouside Teluride (sp).

47 posted on 06/25/2007 9:38:30 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Popocatapetl; oldenuff2no

If you think hauling 130 pounds a mile or two is a chore I hope you never shoot a moose. Have you heard about making two trips to get er done?

Something sounds fishy here. Why would anyone shoot a deer that far from their truck if they have no intentions of cutting it up and hauling it out?


48 posted on 06/25/2007 11:24:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: wardaddy
I saw a CT State Trooper put down an injured deer on Rt. 8, just north of Danbury. The poor think had been struck by a pickup, and its front legs appeared to be shattered. It was a sad sight, but the officer did the right thing.

I know a lot of people who hunt, and none would want to put an animal through that kind of agony. Why this officer didn't do the right thing is a mystery to me.
49 posted on 06/25/2007 11:28:27 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: holyscroller; South40

If you can get your vehicle close, one easy way would be to lift it up in the air with a rope and then drive under it to lower it onto the roof.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 11:28:39 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: Popocatapetl
A lot of hunters shoot a deer, but either don’t want the meat or just want a steak or two, so abandon the carcass

Really?

You have any proof of this?

Or is this just your opinion? If so, what's that opinion based on?

tia

51 posted on 06/25/2007 11:29:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Getting honest answers from Congress...is like putting socks on roosters.)
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To: Eaker

>I am having some trouble thinking of a situation that cannot be made safe to shoot a deer with a handgun.<

Put the handgun in the hands of a fool and it will quickly become a dangerous situation.


52 posted on 06/25/2007 11:31:14 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: Popocatapetl
Plenty of hunters that hunt inaccessible lands....butcher the animal in the field. And haul it out backstraps, shoulders, hindquarters..etc. They may make multiple hiking in and out trips...or have pack animals.

BTW, there are other options. There are sleds, poles, game carriers...and I call on my hunting buddies quite often.

Are you yourself a hunter?

53 posted on 06/25/2007 11:36:03 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Getting honest answers from Congress...is like putting socks on roosters.)
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To: B4Ranch
Put the handgun in the hands of a fool and it will quickly become a dangerous situation.

Ya got me there.

54 posted on 06/25/2007 12:57:57 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: oldenuff2no; Popocatapetl; humblegunner
I do not like deer meat at all. I have tasted it 100 different ways and still couldn't eat it.

For this reason I do not hunt deer. I couldn't hunt and kill something that I could not eat.

I have a friend, humblegunner, who has a lease and I enjoyed going up there and working during the off season building stands, clearing trees, cooking huge steaks and getting hammered.

But no hunting for me even to give the meat away.

55 posted on 06/25/2007 1:05:58 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Popocatapetl

Was traveling down the road in Ohio many years back,when a co-worker and I came upon a large buck that had been hit.I had quit hunting after the Army,but there were many vehicles lined up and down the road.The buck was large and had a nice rack,but both his legs were broken and hung on by skin.He was making the most awful sound ever.Bawling from pain and the presence of so many people.I walked up and grabbed him by the antlers and pulled as he pushed from the highway to a ditch.
There he continued to bawl and it was disturbing.I asked if anyone would or could put him down.All said no except one person.[I knew many of the pickups had rifles as I could see them in their gun racks!]A man walked over and said he had a 22 magnum under his seat and he would let me use it,but would not shoot it himself due to liability issues.I accepted his offer and went over and shot the buck in the head.Six times! All head shots and I was worried the last one would not do it but it did.I never forgot that as i thought they were all wussys to let an animal suffer.A Trooper came,and as luck would have it,a fridge truck was there and took the deer.The Trooper never took a report and went on his way.I felt bad about shooting the deer,but I felt disgust that no one else had the verve to do it.I did have some respect for the man who loaned me the pistol.


56 posted on 06/25/2007 1:34:56 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Osage Orange

I’m sorry that some of the hunters here took what I said the wrong way. I was not trying to disparage hunting in any way, just reporting what this organization to support the poor had said was an excellent way for them to get high quality, low cost meat for the poor.

Based on what some of you said, I have no doubt that you use every single scrap of the deer and throw or give nothing away to others, but that has nothing to do with this. This is about a charity benefiting from what some charitable hunters had been willing to donate to them. Under *whatever* circumstances.


57 posted on 06/25/2007 1:37:53 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl
“You have to admit that it is not an easy task to haul 130lbs of deer any great distance. Especially when you have your rifle and all your other gear with you.”

As I said, I am a Hunter safety and IBEP, (International bowhunter education) instructor. I teach hunter ethics and responsibilities all the time to youth and adults.
The laws in every state that I have ever hunted or have knowledge of specifically require that all edible meat be taken from the carcass and used. This is not an item within the law that is debatable. It against the law to leave part of the meat there no matter how far you have to pack it. Millions of hunters go out every fall and accomplish this with no complaints. If I find someone that leaves meat to go to waste I have and will drop a dime on them. This does happen, but it is actually very, very, rare.
I often bone out an animal and pack it out on my back or on a pack horse. I hunt elk and deer 10 to 20 miles from the nearest road all the time. No one said it was easy but it is part of hunting. The fun stops when you pull the trigger or release the arrow. What follows is a lot of hard work.
I don't think you meant this to light a fire under hunters but it is easy to see that, at best, you have very limited understanding of the sport of hunting and of state game laws.
The programs where hunters give wild game to the needy works a little differently than you indicated. the hunter who harvested the animal still has to get it out of the woods and have it processed. The hunter still does all the work and pays the processing fees.

58 posted on 06/25/2007 3:16:27 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Eaker
Let me send you some deer jerky next season....

I'd bet you would love it.

59 posted on 06/26/2007 6:01:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Getting honest answers from Congress...is like putting socks on roosters.)
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To: oldenuff2no; Popocatapetl
The programs where hunters give wild game to the needy works a little differently than you indicated. the hunter who harvested the animal still has to get it out of the woods and have it processed. The hunter still does all the work and pays the processing fees.

Good post....

I will add that in my state...we have a program like, "Hunters Against Hunger"...where we have to haul it to the nearest participating processer..and give them $10..to help offset their costs.

Most of the hunters that I know..that do that. Already have a FULL freezer...and are taking part in "extra" doe days...or something of that nature.

FWIW

60 posted on 06/26/2007 6:07:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Getting honest answers from Congress...is like putting socks on roosters.)
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