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The Mystery of the 'Nazi Holy Grail'
Spiegel Magazine ^ | Sven Röbel

Posted on 06/25/2007 5:44:20 AM PDT by BGHater

A mysterious golden pot discovered in a Bavarian lake in 2001 has been the focus of interest for archaeologists, art dealers -- and now the German and Swiss police. Its convoluted history involves Nazi cults, treasure hunters and modern-day profiteers.

So there it was, the legendary "Holy Grail" -- in a safe not far from the Zurich airport. Investor Svetlana K. from Kazahkstan had been prepared for almost anything on that day last March. But when she saw what had been described as "probably the most important art-historical discovery in the Western Hemisphere" in front of her, all the other superlatives used in the four-page prospectus faded into the background. "An object of such pre-eminence has probably never been introduced onto the open art market," the document stated, adding that, "Given the proper promotion, experts believe its value could reach a sum of around €1 billion" ($1.4 billion).

A veritable dream bargain seemed to be just within reach: The vessel -- made of 11 kilograms (24.3 lbs) of gold, decorated with Celtic ornaments and said to be more than 2,000 years old -- did indeed exercise an irresistible fascination on the beholder.

But the woman from Kazakhstan had been warned that there was one hitch: She had to snap up the bargain quickly. After all, an investment opportunity like this doesn't come along every day, she was told. That made sense to Svetlana K. and her business partner Vladimir T., and a short time later they transfered the equivalent of €1.1 million ($1.5 million) to Switzerland via a Moscow bank, in exchange for a share of the potential earnings from the marketing of the golden pot.

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TOPICS: Germany; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; holygrail; nazi; occult; treasure
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1 posted on 06/25/2007 5:44:21 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

oldie but goodie

Nazi-Holy grail ping


2 posted on 06/25/2007 5:45:10 AM PDT by BGHater (My Tagline will defend freedom.)
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To: BGHater

Nice. I’ll invest in a cut just as soon as I send my money order to this nice Nigerian fellow who’s going to give me 15 million dollars in return.


3 posted on 06/25/2007 5:48:53 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (..and the horse you rode in on!)
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To: BGHater

Calling Indiana Jones!


4 posted on 06/25/2007 5:49:34 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: SolidWood

What about the Spear of Destiny??

http://ourworld.cs.com/argentprime/spear.htm


5 posted on 06/25/2007 5:53:05 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: Perdogg

I’ve got it in my gun safe.


6 posted on 06/25/2007 5:56:25 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (July 11, 2007. The Rebellion begins!)
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To: BGHater

Nazis were very gullible.


7 posted on 06/25/2007 5:56:45 AM PDT by Graymatter (New legislators. No new laws. ... Let's clean house. And senate.)
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To: BGHater

I hate to hint about the gruesome, but the thought occurred to me that if there is a Nazi link and the gold was from the 40’s, the source of that gold could have been from thousands of victims that made the gold donations and then went up in smoke.


8 posted on 06/25/2007 5:56:54 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: BGHater
(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it.

(2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

9 posted on 06/25/2007 5:57:02 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Perdogg

I’ll wait for the Ark of the Covenant...


10 posted on 06/25/2007 5:59:20 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Perdogg

The spear is hidden somewhere in Castle Wolfenstein!


11 posted on 06/25/2007 6:05:07 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: BGHater

That’s not the cup of a carpenter!


12 posted on 06/25/2007 6:06:55 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: BGHater
Indiana Jones and his dad solved this mystery a long time ago.

Here is the real grail:


13 posted on 06/25/2007 6:08:40 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: wideawake
(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it.
(2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

Exactly. Obviously the real grail would look more like this:

14 posted on 06/25/2007 6:10:01 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: BGHater

It weighs over 24 lbs.

Kinda heavy for a “grail”


15 posted on 06/25/2007 6:12:03 AM PDT by kidd
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To: wideawake
(1) A cup used by a Jew at a Passovertide supper in the first century would not have had Celtic-style decorative images on it. (2) The style and workmanship of the pictured object indicate that it is significantly younger than 2,000 years old.

Carpenters didn't have 11 kg gold cups hanging around.

16 posted on 06/25/2007 6:13:09 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: VRWCmember
Get this handmade Celtic Holy Grail with your support gift of 10 shekels during fundraising week. Limited quantity available to the first 75 callers...
17 posted on 06/25/2007 6:13:47 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: BGHater

I made that in high school art class!


18 posted on 06/25/2007 6:15:19 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Ann Coulter is My Press Secretary)
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To: kidd

I thought the “grail” was that the king and the land are one...


19 posted on 06/25/2007 6:15:40 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: BGHater
So, you seek the grail?


20 posted on 06/25/2007 6:18:16 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: wideawake
Another debate for another time, but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

This Levitical connection is confirmed both in the Gospel of Luke and also in the Koran, which also confirms that Mary traveled to the East to give birth to Jesus in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Mary’s Levitical and Davidic lineage meant that Jesus was therefore eligible to be both King and High-Priest, also in fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy.

21 posted on 06/25/2007 6:22:29 AM PDT by BGHater (My Tagline will defend freedom.)
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To: BGHater

British royal family, eh?


22 posted on 06/25/2007 6:24:22 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: BGHater
but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family

Challenge.

23 posted on 06/25/2007 6:24:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

You’re right. After looking at the thing again, I think the dude on the right is Hugo Chavez.


24 posted on 06/25/2007 6:24:56 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SolidWood

Otto Rahn was in interesting character- perhaps a model for Indiana?


25 posted on 06/25/2007 6:27:13 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: wideawake
I’ll keep it off the thread, I’ll send ya stuff later, privately.
26 posted on 06/25/2007 6:29:18 AM PDT by BGHater (My Tagline will defend freedom.)
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To: BGHater
It's not well known, but the Nazis were hooked up in some very bizarre cultic stuff.

Having learned a little about that part of Nazi philosophy, I now firmly believe that Hitler was one of the antichrists (little a) that Revelation talked about concerning the end times.
27 posted on 06/25/2007 6:40:21 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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To: BGHater

Please put it here. We all want to see this!


28 posted on 06/25/2007 6:42:15 AM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: OSHA; BGHater

I second this.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 7:14:53 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: OSHA

It involves a bit of time travel...but not much.


30 posted on 06/25/2007 7:15:34 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (An Army Dad)
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To: BGHater

I thought we Freemasons had the Holy Grail.


31 posted on 06/25/2007 7:17:30 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (Dum spiro spero.)
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To: curmudgeonII

Not sure, I thought you guys have Geronimo’s skull, wait I think Yale has that one.


32 posted on 06/25/2007 7:21:29 AM PDT by BGHater (My Tagline will defend freedom.)
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but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

Ah, the DaVinci Code redux...

33 posted on 06/25/2007 7:37:40 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: BGHater
I bought one just like that from the Franklin mint. (As well as my 2006 Boston Reds Sox Christmas ornament.)
34 posted on 06/25/2007 9:03:15 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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35 posted on 06/25/2007 9:36:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 23, 2007.)
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To: BGHater
...said to be more than 2,000 years old ...

Holy Grail?

someone is using fuzzy math?

36 posted on 06/25/2007 9:54:01 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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37 posted on 06/25/2007 10:09:44 AM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: K4Harty
...said to be more than 2,000 years old ...
Holy Grail?
someone is using fuzzy math?

Perhaps it was already an antique when Jesus used it.

38 posted on 06/25/2007 10:12:19 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: kidd

Well its a Grail and a paper weight !

lol


39 posted on 06/25/2007 10:14:01 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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To: BGHater
Oh, goody, something I can invest the British Lottery winnings in that this e-mail just told me I won.
40 posted on 06/25/2007 10:20:48 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BGHater

“This Levitical connection is confirmed both in the Gospel of Luke and also in the Koran, which also confirms that Mary traveled to the East to give birth to Jesus in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Mary’s Levitical and Davidic lineage meant that Jesus was therefore eligible to be both King and High-Priest, also in fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy.”

Any chance you’re in the market for a nice bridge in Brooklyn? How about a slightly worn Nazi cup?


41 posted on 06/25/2007 11:24:53 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; Velveeta; FARS; milford421; Founding Father; Quix

Ping.


42 posted on 06/25/2007 12:03:46 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (When God spoke to the world, were you listening?)
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To: BGHater

Too weird to believe ping..


43 posted on 06/25/2007 12:07:18 PM PDT by USMCVet
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

If she went East to have the baby and ended up in England, she went a LONG way.


44 posted on 06/25/2007 12:07:41 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BGHater
Another debate for another time, but historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth.

BTW. Herbert W. Armstrong plagarized all that British-Israelism stuff.

45 posted on 06/25/2007 12:13:46 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv; Coleus

ping


46 posted on 06/25/2007 12:14:36 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It is like, Indiana Jones was based on real events.


47 posted on 06/25/2007 12:15:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BGHater
That made sense to Svetlana K. and her business partner Vladimir T., and a short time later they transfered the equivalent of €1.1 million ($1.5 million) to Switzerland via a Moscow bank, in exchange for a share of the potential earnings from the marketing of the golden pot.

I think they chose . . . poorly.

48 posted on 06/25/2007 12:19:30 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Calpernia

Laughing, as I admit that i managed to miss the Indiana Jones movies.

I am inclined to think that a lot of Jews died to donate that gold to hitler. I keep thinking of gold teeth.


49 posted on 06/25/2007 12:23:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (When God spoke to the world, were you listening?)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 12:24:16 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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