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Noonan: Hillary [Clinton] Must 'Prove She's a Woman'
NewsMax.com ^ | 25 Jun 07 | NewsMax.com staff

Posted on 06/25/2007 11:34:59 AM PDT by seanmerc

Tough talk in the Wall Street Journal from Peggy Noonan, a writer best known for her compassionate commentaries on people, such as Ronald Reagan and Pope John Paul II, and for her keen insights on social and political issues.

Writing about Hillary Clinton in the Friday edition of the Wall Street Journal, Noonan offers this suggestion: "Hillary Clinton doesn't have to prove she's a man,” writes Peggy Noonan. "She has to prove she's a woman.”

Noonan takes a cool, hard look at Hillary Clinton in the piece titled "What's Not to Like?" revealing what she believes is the New York senator and presidential hopeful’s Achilles heel – her seeming lack of warmth.

"She [Hillary] doesn't have to prove to people that she's tough enough or aggressive enough to be commander in chief,” Noonan writes. " She doesn't have to show she could and would wage a war. She has to prove she has normal human warmth, a normal amount of give, of good nature, that she is not, at bottom, grimly combative and rather dark.”

Hillary, Noonan notes, "is the woman credited with starting and naming the War Room. Her staff has nicknamed her "The Warrior." Get in her way and she'd squish you like a bug. This has been her reputation for 20 years. And it is her big problem. People want a president to be strong but not hard.”

Noonan quotes a longtime Hillary supporter as having observed "We're back where we were in '92 - likability. Nothing has changed."

Back then, Noonan recalls, "when the Clintons were newly famous, their consultants were alarmed to find the American people did not believe Hillary was a mother. They thought she was a person with breasts in a suit. She had a briefcase and a latte and was late for the meeting, but no way did she have a child.

"So the Clintons began to include their daughter, Chelsea, then 12, in campaign appearances. Which helped.”

Noonan asks "Where is Chelsea now? She's trying to parallel park” [a reference to the video of Bill and Hillary Clinton aping the final scene of 'The Sopranos'].

That video, she writes, "jokingly acknowledges what the Clintons well know: that a certain portion of the voting population sees them as . . . well, as gangsterish. As dark, and dishonest to a degree more extreme than is usual even in political figures.”

They use the video spoof to make fun of such perceptions, Noonan observed.

Moreover, in the Sopranos spoof video, which was used to announce the senator's new campaign song for 2008, Hillary was "beautifully made up and quietly dressed in slacks and sweater like a handsome suburban lady waiting for her man at a booth in a diner.” Noonan added that Bill "looked great too. Of all modern presidents, Bill Clinton was most made for the camera. And he can really act. He actually looked disappointed at being served carrots and not onion rings.”

Noonan contends that although Hillary "has taken, on the stump, to referring to herself as ‘born . . . in the middle of America in the middle of the century, ’ a statement "word for word what George H.W. Bush said in 1988 when he introduced his choice of Dan Quayle," there is a dark side to Hillary's campaign that contradicts her claim that she’s really a warm hearted women.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: New York
KEYWORDS: clinton; democrats; hildebeast; hillary; hillaryclinton; noonan; shrillary
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If there was EVER a headline that jumped off the page at you, this would be it. Talk about comedic potential! CLASSIC!!!
1 posted on 06/25/2007 11:35:04 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

EEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwww~!!!!!!

Thanks a lot for THAT mental image.


2 posted on 06/25/2007 11:36:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: seanmerc

If it requires a physical exam to prove she’s a woman, I’m busy for the next 20 years. Get a blood test.


3 posted on 06/25/2007 11:36:35 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (July 11, 2007. The Rebellion begins!)
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To: seanmerc
She has to prove she's a woman.

Thanks just the same, but I'll take her word for it.

4 posted on 06/25/2007 11:36:48 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: seanmerc

Does this infer that the “Mick Dundee” method needs to be employed?


5 posted on 06/25/2007 11:37:27 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: seanmerc

Senator Clinton is not a likable person. End of story.

This is like saying her husband has to prove that he is trustworthy. End of story redux.


6 posted on 06/25/2007 11:37:53 AM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: seanmerc

There’s no way she can prove that. Be serious.


7 posted on 06/25/2007 11:37:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: seanmerc

New worst idea of the day.


8 posted on 06/25/2007 11:38:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: seanmerc

I don’t think even a DNA test could prove it to my satisfaction. NFL linebackers are more feminine than she is.


9 posted on 06/25/2007 11:38:27 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: seanmerc
Stump check a la Crocodile Dundee?

You go ahead...I'll hold the light.

10 posted on 06/25/2007 11:38:34 AM PDT by paddles
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To: Mr. K

Man, I showed restraint! You could take this a lot further, although I’m not sure why you would want to.


11 posted on 06/25/2007 11:38:43 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Brilliant

How about Bill appearing on national tv to sing “Hill, Yo is my Woman Now” with many and profuse apologies to the Gershwin boys.


12 posted on 06/25/2007 11:40:39 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: seanmerc
I don't think 'it' can prove it's a woman.
maybe it can prove 'it' to be a beast
woman?.....no
beast?...... possibly.
no woman acts like that.....
no man either for that matter.
13 posted on 06/25/2007 11:40:48 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: seanmerc
Noonan: Hillary [Clinton] Must 'Prove She's a Woman'

Cookies...bake lots and lots of cookies.

Of all modern presidents, Bill Clinton was most made for the camera. And he can really act. He actually looked disappointed at being served carrots and not onion rings.”

Gag! If XXX-42 is the modern president most made for the camera, I guess the modern era must have started in the 1990s. Or else Noonan has taken enough pills to forget about Reagan. Hell, she even passed over St. John F. Kennedy to get a chance to kiss XXX-42's backside.

14 posted on 06/25/2007 11:40:58 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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you mean like with medical records and stuff? yuck.


15 posted on 06/25/2007 11:42:09 AM PDT by isom35
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To: seanmerc

All Hillary needs is a good testimonial from her closest friends and confidants..say like Vince Foster.


16 posted on 06/25/2007 11:42:36 AM PDT by rod1 (uake)
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To: Mr. K

17 posted on 06/25/2007 11:42:46 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
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18 posted on 06/25/2007 11:43:05 AM PDT by rbosque
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To: seanmerc
"She has to prove she's a woman."

Good luck with THAT!

19 posted on 06/25/2007 11:44:24 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Don't you worry, never fear, FDT will soon be here. http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Mr. K

“Hillary, Noonan notes, “is the woman credited with starting and naming the War Room. Her staff has nicknamed her “The Warrior”

Was Noonan nicknamed the warrior or was Hillary?
I am sure Hillary’s nickname is and has never has been the Warrior. I am sure her nickname starts with the letter “C” and ends with the letter “T”


20 posted on 06/25/2007 11:45:27 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: seanmerc

I’m willing to stipulate that she is. I’m not sure I believe it, but looking at the evidence would be worse!


21 posted on 06/25/2007 11:45:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: seanmerc

“Achilles heel – her seeming lack of warmth”......She’s as cold as ice. Has everyone forgot when the shrew flew off the handle ranting and raving about Republicans? I cannot imagine anyone but the far far left voting for her. I don’t trust her or that stupid phony smile.


22 posted on 06/25/2007 11:45:56 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: seanmerc

Ewww! Did anyone even MENTION Helen the Troll?


23 posted on 06/25/2007 11:47:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: seanmerc
there is no way that thing can prove it is 'human'
and noonan says it has to prove it is a woman?
it would be easier to prove bill c. is not a liar.
24 posted on 06/25/2007 11:47:56 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Holicheese
I am sure Hillary?s nickname is and has never has been the Warrior. I am sure her nickname starts with the letter ?C? and ends with the letter ?T

I'm not sure how that's possible, but OK.

25 posted on 06/25/2007 11:49:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: seanmerc
"...She has to prove she has normal human warmth, a normal amount of give, of good nature, that she is not, at bottom, grimly combative and rather dark."

Warmth....

26 posted on 06/25/2007 11:51:02 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Im waiting for the day that she will tell the truth about ANYTHING.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 11:51:15 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Still Thinking

Just wanted to throw her into the mix to liven things up. :-)


28 posted on 06/25/2007 11:52:57 AM PDT by seanmerc
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To: KarlInOhio

I saw ‘it’ in a skirt. “It” is definitely NFL.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 11:54:07 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Holicheese
I am sure her nickname starts with the letter “C” and ends with the letter “T”

Seen the bumper sticker?

[an eyeball] [a heart] [Hillary's mug] [a tree] [a quarter note]

(I love country music)

30 posted on 06/25/2007 11:54:15 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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To: rbosque

Hillarious.


31 posted on 06/25/2007 11:55:36 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: seanmerc

“When the Clintons were newly famous, their consultants were alarmed to find the American people did not believe Hillary was a mother. They thought she was a person with breasts in a suit.”

“The Clintons well know: that a certain portion of the voting population sees them as . . . well, as gangsterish. As dark, and dishonest to a degree more extreme than is usual even in political figures.”

Noonan nails it, spot on.


33 posted on 06/25/2007 11:56:07 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: seanmerc
Hmm, from what I read here it sounds more like "needs to prove she's a decent honest person." Saying she needs to prove she's a woman (if Noonan said that) seems pointless to me.

And why set any personal standard for Hilary to meet? I don't want a left wing democrat in the White House. Period.

34 posted on 06/25/2007 11:56:55 AM PDT by Williams
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To: RightWhale; Brilliant

First she has to prove that she has a heart that’s beating.......and warm blood, not ice water.......


35 posted on 06/25/2007 11:57:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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I don’t care if Hillary even tries to prove she is a woman.

Proof that she is all human would be nice though.


36 posted on 06/25/2007 11:57:20 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: seanmerc

What is that?


37 posted on 06/25/2007 11:57:47 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: seanmerc

Fred Thompson was the man who sought the TRUTH during Watergate Impeachment proceedings; Hillary, as deputy majority counsel, didn’t believe Nixon should be allowed a defense lawyer.

Who would you want to be President?


38 posted on 06/25/2007 11:58:12 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: seanmerc

It is hard to prove a negative!


39 posted on 06/25/2007 11:58:43 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: seanmerc

40 posted on 06/25/2007 11:59:50 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: seanmerc
She can't prove what she isn't


41 posted on 06/25/2007 12:01:09 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: seanmerc
Sorry, Peggy, she fails the test:


42 posted on 06/25/2007 12:01:50 PM PDT by quark
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To: Red Badger

Who is going to affirm that? Somebody would have to get in close.


43 posted on 06/25/2007 12:01:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: seanmerc

Well, thanks for that. I’ll return the favor someday! :-O


44 posted on 06/25/2007 12:02:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: seanmerc

“Yow baby, that’s a man!” (Thanks to Austin Powers)


45 posted on 06/25/2007 12:04:20 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: Bommer

And people got on ME for creating ugly mental images...


46 posted on 06/25/2007 12:04:32 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: theDentist
Does this quote from Atlas Shrugged fit anyone we know?

She had pale eyes that looked fishy, cold and dead. And if you ever want to see pure evil, you should have seen the way her eyes glinted when she watched some man who'd talked back to her once and who'd just heard his name on the list of those getting nothing above basic pittance. And when you saw it, you saw the real motive of any person who's ever preached the slogan: 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.'

47 posted on 06/25/2007 12:05:21 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RightWhale

Hazmat suits and lead chest protectors, with cross, garlic, and silver bullets in a Uzzi, just to be safe.......


48 posted on 06/25/2007 12:07:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Still Thinking

Bommer got revenge for you—see post #41 in this thread.


49 posted on 06/25/2007 12:07:15 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Mr. K

Yep, I’ll go scrub my mind out with lye now thanks.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 12:11:41 PM PDT by oakcon (Dulce et Decorum est pro Patria mori)
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