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It’s good to see that there still some hope for humanity. Now it is time to get some competent science in the classroom instead of just evolution.
1 posted on 06/25/2007 5:55:17 PM PDT by Alien Syndrome
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2 posted on 06/25/2007 6:00:41 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre (Nazis believed they were doing good.)
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43 per cent of Americans believe God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years

That's less than half. A nation that turns its back on God will not stand for long.

3 posted on 06/25/2007 6:03:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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Now it is time to get some competent science in the classroom instead of just evolution.

For example?

5 posted on 06/25/2007 6:05:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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There’s more scientific evidence behind creationism than “global warming.”


7 posted on 06/25/2007 6:08:10 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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"We see some very large folding in the canyon where sedimentary layers, which are laid down horizontally, have been curved or carved in big bends, some of them 300 feet tall, and this is done without cracking the rock. How do you do that with hard rock?" he said.

The ignorance of this guy astounds me (and he's the author of a geology book?!). I know this is a complete waste of time because young-earth creationists are immune to reason, but rocks are folded when they're subjected to high stresses while buried down in the crust, not at the surface. Rock will indeed break if you try to bend it at the surface, but heat it up a bit, subject it to a few kilobars of confining pressure, and it's a different story.

Does this guy think God just randomly made folds in flood sediments (violating all known physical laws) in order to fool people? Oh, that's right, I forgot - it only fools those "godless" geologists (many who attend church every Sunday like myself) who don't interpret rock outcrops with a Bible in their hands.

OK, have at it. Quote 2 Peter 3:3 or a similar verse at me, call me a heretic, an atheist, or an evilutionist. Trust me on this, however, while you may convince people who couldn't tell a sandstone from a granite if it smacked them on the head, you're not making a dent in mainstream science.

11 posted on 06/25/2007 6:13:49 PM PDT by rockprof
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13 posted on 06/25/2007 6:15:36 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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Three of the Republican presidential candidates do not believe in evolution and a high-tech creation museum recently opened in Kentucky.

This article is retarded. The statement "creationism is making a comeback" requires that belief in creationism had at some point become less predominant than it is now. I would wager that with only 1/3 of the republican candidates not believing in evolution we are observing one of the lowest such ratios in history.
26 posted on 06/25/2007 6:41:11 PM PDT by newguy357
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30 posted on 06/25/2007 6:44:15 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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Ugh, there is so much wrong with this article. The author does not seem to have a good grasp of the debate and its status in America.
In the United States the old but bitter debate between evolution and creationism is heating up again. Three of the Republican presidential candidates do not believe in evolution and a high-tech creation museum recently opened in Kentucky.
The issue has been on the burner for about ten years. The relatively new incarnation of Intelligent Design (and its test(s) in the court room) has helped, but you don't have the stances of presidential candidates on evolution make headlines unless there has been a significant foundation laid for interest towards the issue.
Much of the debate has been fuelled by a book claiming the Grand Canyon, one of America's most well-known landmarks, was carved by Noah's flood rather than erosion.
Totally wrong. This was just one of many disputes that cropped up around the country on the creation/evolution debate, and hasn't made any headlines (that I'm aware of) since the dumb PEER debacle back in '06.
Opinion polls suggest 43 per cent of Americans believe God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years. Only 14 per cent believe humans evolved without divine involvement.
It would be interesting to note what polls the author is citing, because the numbers vary.
37 posted on 06/25/2007 6:54:15 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.)
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Exactly: I don’t see what (some) darwinists have against the teaching of empirical evidence against darwinism? Shouldn’t ALL the evidence be looked at, not just that (btw many of the early darwinist evidence has been debunked as hoaxes, and/or bad science) that uphold their worldview..?

If someone is honest they won’t take ANYONE’S word for it and will openly, but honestly explore empirical evidence for themselves, it seem so many don’t want to do this though (not just evolutionists, btw).

But all evidence should be looked at openly, not just that that favors “one side”.

(Censorship) is what happens most often!


43 posted on 06/25/2007 7:00:57 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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I predict 550 posts or more.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 7:07:16 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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Much to the horror of mainstream scientists, creationism seems to be making a comeback in the United States.

Making a comeback? Since when did it ever go away? Them saying so didn't make it happen. They're really just horrified to find out they were wrong.

57 posted on 06/25/2007 7:23:24 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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The American Geological Institute and other groups demanded the book be removed from the national park.

Where do they get off thinking they can make demands like that? Do they own the park? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy the books. Mind control police.

58 posted on 06/25/2007 7:26:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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bfl


61 posted on 06/25/2007 7:28:43 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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“Hope???” If you mean you hope we all go back to the days when we all sat in caves and died of disease before we turned thirty, by all means do so, because the whole world would be better off without you, but don’t force the rest of us to believe your retarded fairy tales.


75 posted on 06/25/2007 8:08:13 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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Considering that Mt St. Helens debunked three phenomenons that were thought to have taken millions of years to occur, I certainly doubt that the Grand Canyon was carved by a river over thousands of millenia.

From memory, Mt St. Helens proved:

1. The melting snow caused a flash flood that carved a canyon overnight, far short of the expected millions of years.

2. Spirit Lake was filled with dead trees, that over time became water logged and began to pop upright with their uprooted trunks catching the shore, the settling ash in the water encased the trees were they ran aground in the lake bed and started the process for a petrified forest.

3. Mt St Helens deposited its own 25 ft layer of strata that scientists would never guess could have occurred over night.

95 posted on 06/25/2007 8:41:53 PM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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Darwins Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution The Battle of Beginnings: Why Neither Side Is Winning the Creation-Evolution Debate Science and Its Limits: The Natural Sciences in Christian Perspective
Darwin's Black Box:
The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution

by Michael J. Behe
hardcover
Molecular Machines: Experimental Support for the Design Inference
The Battle of Beginnings:
Why Neither Side Is Winning
the Creation-Evolution Debate

by Delvin Lee "Del" Ratzsch
Science and Its Limits:
The Natural Sciences in Christian Perspective

Del Ratzsch


107 posted on 06/25/2007 10:14:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 23, 2007.)
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"What I found was all those little questions I had as an evolutionist had answers, and pretty logical answers as I looked at it."

Well that's his problem right there. You don't use evolution to answer geology questions silly!
111 posted on 06/25/2007 10:48:03 PM PDT by ndt
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Now it is time to get some competent science in the classroom instead of just evolution

Creationism isn't science any more than astrology is science.

115 posted on 06/26/2007 4:57:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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"We see some very large folding in the canyon where sedimentary layers, which are laid down horizontally, have been curved or carved in big bends, some of them 300 feet tall, and this is done without cracking the rock. How do you do that with hard rock?"

If you can't figure out the obvious, you really shouldn't be writing a book about it.

132 posted on 06/26/2007 6:33:58 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (When's MY turn? What crimes may I commit and recieve amnesty for?)
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