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Armed men crossed into Afghanistan from Iran: Police
PAK TRIBUNE ^ | 20 Jun 07 | Unknown

Posted on 06/25/2007 6:38:27 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

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1 posted on 06/25/2007 6:38:28 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Drudge has a story about Iranian military crossing into Iraq.


2 posted on 06/25/2007 6:40:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

Its going to be a long summer..


3 posted on 06/25/2007 6:41:57 PM PDT by Dog
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To: elhombrelibre

They have borders like ours...


4 posted on 06/25/2007 6:42:30 PM PDT by BigFinn (You donít have to be smarter than a fifth grader to oppose this bill.)
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To: cripplecreek
That story has been posted here, and it's why I did a search and found this one. This story is a few days old, but it shows a pattern, I'd say.

Iranian Forces Crossed Border: Report

5 posted on 06/25/2007 6:43:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: BigFinn

Yeah, no difference.


6 posted on 06/25/2007 6:44:32 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Perhaps we can get Afghanistan and Iraq to both declare war on Iran if we promise a really big air campaign and some Special Ops forces to help in the effort.


7 posted on 06/25/2007 6:45:36 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Dog
Safi said his police forces had information that former mujahideen fighters, who forced Soviet forces from Afghanistan and later plunged the country into a bloody civil war, were receiving training in Iranian territory and were sent back to Afghanistan to carry out attacks against the government and international forces.

The notion that Mujahideen (or Pasthun Taliban for that matter) need any "training" from Iranians in how to fight in Stan....it completely absurd.

Though weapons......They'll always take those....

8 posted on 06/25/2007 6:46:29 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: elhombrelibre
Iranian forces crossed Iraqi border: report
9 posted on 06/25/2007 6:46:37 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: The_Reader_David

You know it may come to that.


10 posted on 06/25/2007 6:47:59 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Dog

Lets get our big guns down there to the south and blow the living crap out of these Islamo-Facists.
and wipe out their Gas Refinery now! and drop a few on the Capital Govt offices for good measure. then sink every ship they have in the river.
lets get going!!


11 posted on 06/25/2007 6:48:34 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: elhombrelibre
Between this and the crossings into the Iraqi British sector, who knows. Maybe their brazen allowance to support al Qaeda and the Talaban has reached the point where they don't care who sees what.
Of course the Iranian official position is they know nothing about it. Perhaps we shall start reading about how our Marine,Navy, and Airforce aviators and pilots are making full use of their FLIR PODS and laser guided bombs soon, in wiping out cars and truck convoys proceeding out of Iran.
12 posted on 06/25/2007 6:50:59 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: DevSix
I don’t know about that. You may know this already, but the Afghans Mujahideen did not use IEDs, especially of likes Iran is providing. This type of warfare was really perfected by Hizbollah in Lebanon and used by the Chechens more recently. I do think the Afghan Mujahideens could learn from the Iranians, for example, how to operate sophisticated Chinese made SAMs of the MANPAD type.
13 posted on 06/25/2007 6:52:00 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
Gates also mentioned the good relations between the Afghan and Iranian government. "Whether Iran is trying to play both sides of the street, hedge their bets, what their motives are, other than causing trouble for us, I don't know," the US defence chief said.

Shouldn't he have a more certain understanding, he's the man in charge on the ground there. He did get the one part right, about them causing trouble for US troops.

14 posted on 06/25/2007 6:56:02 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Marine_Uncle
The push by Hamas in Gaza, an Iranian-supported move, the arms they’re buying from Russia for Syria, and the support for terrorists, al Qaeda and Shia militias, in Iraq and Hezbollah in Lebanon may have convinced them they can get away with whatever they’d like to do. And, after all, with Nancy and Harry Reid telling them they’re winning, they probably don’t feel there is much risk of repercussions.
15 posted on 06/25/2007 6:57:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Blue Highway

The fact is we’ll never probably know their motives unless we open their archives.


16 posted on 06/25/2007 6:59:00 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

and the plot thickens


17 posted on 06/25/2007 7:02:55 PM PDT by RDTF (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: elhombrelibre

You have to wonder what it will take for the US Military to respond to Iranian provocation? Has the current polical climate in the United States forced President Bush to stand emasculated before Iranian escalation? Does President Bush really believe that the last election mandated surrender and weakness in the face of aggression?


18 posted on 06/25/2007 7:03:31 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: BigFinn
They have borders like ours...

They're just doing the job the local terrorists won't do...

19 posted on 06/25/2007 7:04:19 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: Keflavik76

The only way we’ll know for sure is when Chavez’ squads show up in Houston or Denver.


20 posted on 06/25/2007 7:05:26 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: elhombrelibre
All you say is accurate. They are in for a real let down once we start dropping all their jets coming up to protect them once the proverbial *hit hits the fan. And we taint spending big bucks for the Airforce to perfect those new generation super deep nuclear tipped buster bombs just to drop a few in the desert.
GWB is around for another year and a half. A lot can happen in that time frame.
21 posted on 06/25/2007 7:06:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Dog
Its going to be a long summer..

It's going to be a long WWIII.
22 posted on 06/25/2007 7:06:57 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: elhombrelibre

It’s not a question of if the U.S. goes into Iran but when.


23 posted on 06/25/2007 7:09:00 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Keflavik76
I do believe he feels weakened, as well he should. The opposition at its highest levels have questioned his motives, said they were duped into the war by a dope, claimed he lied to them, claimed he went to war only for oil, claimed he only went to war to avenge his dad, spread hysteria and defeatism, and done all they can to encourage our enemies. Pelosi pranced over to see one of the greatest threats to Middle East peace, like some latter-day Neville Chamberlain, and tried to defund the troops in the field. No doubt the public too has wearied of the war, and many on our side would rather fight borders isse and the Mexican illegals than those who are regularly killing Americans. So Bush probably does feel weakened.
24 posted on 06/25/2007 7:14:15 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Man50D
Keep in mind that certain Democrats tried to pass a law essentially making it impossible for the president to attack Iraq. In other words, they’re more concerned with making the world safe for the mad mullahs than for our service members in Iraq.
25 posted on 06/25/2007 7:17:09 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre; All
Take a look at this.

Terrorists Keep Blogs, Too

26 posted on 06/25/2007 7:19:55 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Your right. President Bush probably feels that any new front he opens up in the War on Terror will result in impeachment proceeding by the surrender and run crowd in Congress. But he should do it anyway.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 7:21:34 PM PDT by Keflavik76
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To: elhombrelibre
Gates also mentioned the good relations between the Afghan and Iranian government. "Whether Iran is trying to play both sides of the street, hedge their bets, what their motives are, other than causing trouble for us, I don't know," the US defence chief said.

Hey Gates .. it's a pretty sure bet they are playing games with ya

28 posted on 06/25/2007 7:23:56 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Keflavik76
I don’t think he’s been good at making the case. He seems to think if it’s obvious to him then everyone else will agree. He doesn’t seem to realize the opposition doesn’t care if we lose. In fact, they want that so they can say it’s another Vietnam.
29 posted on 06/25/2007 7:24:01 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: sageb1

Interesting.


30 posted on 06/25/2007 7:24:19 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
In other words, they’re more concerned with making the world safe for the mad mullahs than for our service members in Iraq.

One thing the socialist dhimmicrats and the terrorists have in common is their hatred for a democratic republic.
31 posted on 06/25/2007 7:24:29 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Keflavik76; Mo1; sageb1; All
Check this out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856256/posts

32 posted on 06/25/2007 7:26:05 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Man50D
They’re in a de facto alliance. It’s a tacit one that’s symbiotic, like the MSM and the terrorists.
33 posted on 06/25/2007 7:27:07 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
IED warfare is not rocket science....And there are plenty within the Mujahideen/ Taliban / Uzbek / Chechens that know more then enough for such type of warfare - Reality is Stan doesn't lend itself to such warfare as well as urban areas like Iraq - (but it is still a concern....just not on the same level at all).

As for MANPADs, again the Taliban / Chechens don't need any training whatsoever from Iranians....They'd teach them a thing or two in all reality.

No, the notion of Iranians teaching the Mujahideen or Taliban about fighting in Stan....is just foolishness. It is not needed.

But as I said earlier...They will always use weaponry...

34 posted on 06/25/2007 7:29:34 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: elhombrelibre
Image hosted by Photobucket.com guess Iraq could use a fence tooo...
35 posted on 06/25/2007 7:31:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Chode
Image hosted by Photobucket.com er... make that Afghanistan.
36 posted on 06/25/2007 7:31:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: glock rocks

But....are they wearing sombreros?


37 posted on 06/25/2007 7:34:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (We need a troop surge in New Orleans and Philly!)
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To: glock rocks
They're just doing the job the local terrorists won't do...

Maybe Ole Shrubie and the Dhimmicrats will give them Z-Visas.

38 posted on 06/25/2007 7:36:17 PM PDT by etradervic (Join the RINO Hunt)
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To: Keflavik76

Don’t worry, I’m sure that as we speak President Bush is on the phone with Mexico asking for permission to deal with the situation.


39 posted on 06/25/2007 7:39:00 PM PDT by TBall
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To: elhombrelibre

None of this bodes well at all.


40 posted on 06/25/2007 7:42:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: DevSix

The IED technology has evolved, and the Chinese MANPADS are not identical to our Stingers. I do think every tool has its own idiosyncrasies. When we field a new weapon, we send trainers to our soldiers. Plus, the people Iran is training are probably not the very same ones who’ve been fighting for the last 30 years.


41 posted on 06/25/2007 7:46:55 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: TBall

I trust Bush. There’s something liberating about a 28% approval rating - it’s as though it cannot get any worse. I know the Iranians will misread that fact, but I trust the President will unload on them at the right time. It’s going to be a long, hot summer.


42 posted on 06/25/2007 7:48:18 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: elhombrelibre

When will Mr. Cruise Missile be visiting the mullahs?


43 posted on 06/25/2007 7:51:24 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I trust Bush

You just lost me there. Anyone who will take the oath of office, to only then proceed to sell US Sovereignty away, and to try to give amnesty to 20 million illegal invaders, all while supposedly fighting a war on terror....

Sorry - I no longer trust him.

44 posted on 06/25/2007 8:05:39 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: doug from upland

Let’s hope soon.


45 posted on 06/25/2007 8:05:54 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: sageb1

Bush has a Casus Belli
if he chooses.


46 posted on 06/25/2007 8:10:15 PM PDT by BlackJack ("Predictions are difficult, especially as regards the future" Mark Twain.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Can’t say I’m surprised with that one

IMO .. we are being played with


47 posted on 06/25/2007 8:12:51 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: elhombrelibre
Of course (regarding new systems all having their own idiosyncrasies)...but there is more then enough military knowhow within the Mujahideen, Taliban, Chechen, Uzbek fighters community to handle and learn such new syncrasies...

Iran is without question giving aid, weapons and some limited training I'd suspect to Shia fighters in Iraq....but the notion they are giving training of any real value of level to the fighters we are facing in Stan....I just don't buy (hell, we'd be better off if they do....The guys we are fighting in Stan are much more proficient then are the Iranians).

48 posted on 06/25/2007 8:13:18 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Man50D
It's going to be a long WWIII.

No, it will be short, 60 days max. But the repercussions will last for generations..

49 posted on 06/25/2007 8:37:22 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Dog

I was reading USS Enterprise battle group is about to arrive into the gulf region. That makes three now, joining the USS Stennis and USS Nimitz currently in the persian gulf.


50 posted on 06/25/2007 8:39:08 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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