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Accident Raises Safety Concerns On Chinese Tires
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 26, 2007 | Timothy Aeppel

Posted on 06/26/2007 10:52:03 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A fatal auto accident in Pennsylvania has stirred concerns about another potentially hazardous Chinese product in wide use in the U.S.: tires.

About 450,000 Chinese-made tires sold in the U.S. -- and possibly many more -- may lack an important safety feature, according to federal regulators and the U.S. distributor that helped design them. But the task of identifying who bought the defective tires and getting them off the road has been complicated by litigation and holes in the nation's product-recall system.

The tire defect comes in the wake of several other high-profile safety problems involving Chinese products, including the discovery of lead paint on children's toys and hazardous materials in Chinese-made toothpaste and in wheat gluten used in pet food.

"As imports grow -- and China is the largest exporter to the U.S. -- it's essential" that all manufacturers comply with U.S. safety regulations, said Daniel Zielinski, a spokesman for the Rubber Manufacturers Association, the tire industry's main trade group.

The tires in question were distributed by Foreign Tire Sales Inc. of Union, N.J., and sold under the brand names Westlake, Telluride, Compass and YKS in a range of sizes used on sport-utility vehicles, pickups and other light trucks. All were sold as replacement tires and not as original equipment on new vehicles.

FTS said an unknown portion of the tires either lacked a safety feature designed to make them more durable or had it in an insufficient degree. The company, which said it doesn't have the money to pay for a recall, estimates the defect could be present in as many as 450,000 tires imported from China's Hangzhou Zhongce Rubber Co. since 2002. It said it believes other U.S. distributors have been selling virtually identical tires, which could account for as many as an additional half-million tires.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicomms; chicoms; china; foreigntiresales; freetrade; fts; hangzhouzhonce; huangzhouzhonce; lawsuit; prc; recall; safety; tires; trade; unitedstates; us; usa
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1 posted on 06/26/2007 10:52:07 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


2 posted on 06/26/2007 10:52:54 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m so tired of this...


3 posted on 06/26/2007 10:53:03 AM PDT by Dysart
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Rebrand them as YiKeS tires


4 posted on 06/26/2007 10:53:13 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe Khruschev got it backwards, and THEY are going to sell US the rope they use to hang us with.


5 posted on 06/26/2007 10:56:13 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Dysart

They go flat again 20 minutes after they’re used.


6 posted on 06/26/2007 10:57:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 3AngelaD

Don’t worry, it wouldn’t hold.


7 posted on 06/26/2007 10:57:47 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

America has a shortage. A rather large shortage. A shortage of integrity. Too many Americans would sell anything to anyone to make a buck.

In spite of what some freepers post, when it comes to commerce, there are things that are just plain wrong.


8 posted on 06/26/2007 10:58:45 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“There is nothing in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and he who considers price only is that man's lawful prey.”

-John Ruskin
9 posted on 06/26/2007 11:01:08 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

brownsfan: “In spite of what some freepers post, when it comes to commerce, there are things that are just plain wrong.”

Old_Mil: “There is nothing in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and he who considers price only is that man’s lawful prey.”

-John Ruskin

Wow, right on time. Thanks for reinforcing my point.


10 posted on 06/26/2007 11:03:23 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: brownsfan

Amen. Don’t forget that this administration also ignores b the Chinese arming terrorists because corporations tells it to put on a blindfold.


11 posted on 06/26/2007 11:03:43 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: Puppage

Can you get MSG-free tires?


12 posted on 06/26/2007 11:05:04 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Puppage

Can you get MSG-free tires?


13 posted on 06/26/2007 11:08:16 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I have told my tire guy, for a couple of years now, not to ever put a Chinese tire on my trucks. Just never trusted them and they wear out in less than a year. I don’t buy Chinese stuff unless I have no choice and I need a certain too. I absolutely will not buy their food.


14 posted on 06/26/2007 11:08:32 AM PDT by RC2
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To: brownsfan
America has a shortage. A rather large shortage. A shortage of integrity. Too many Americans would sell anything to anyone to make a buck.

I think it's more the case that some Chinese companies don't think a deal is a deal. When you contract out something to be built to a spec, you expect that spec throughout the contract. It looks like this Chinese company decided that it was OK to substitute an inferior product sometime through the deal. The simple remedy is to put the American distributor out of business by forcing a recall. No one else will then do business with Yangzhou, simply out of a fear of liability issues. There will also be a general unease with buying from Chinese-owned tire manufacturers, which means the cessation of imports from these firms. Yangzhou may have saved itself millions or even tens of millions of dollars by omitting that feature. But it has just dealt itself out of the US market. And perhaps most of auto tire markets outside of China, if not in China itself. (Chinese consumers are reflexively nationalistic, but they do pay attention to these things. They may profess an ardent nationalism, but most buy foreign cars assembled in China for their superior reliability and fit and finish).

15 posted on 06/26/2007 11:11:39 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Back in the day, a product with a "Made in Japan" label was thought of as being a piece of crap.

Now it's China's turn.

16 posted on 06/26/2007 11:18:49 AM PDT by FReepaholic (If Cho had a nuclear weapon instead of guns, would he have used it?)
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To: Dark Wing; Dog Gone

ping


17 posted on 06/26/2007 11:19:06 AM PDT by Thud
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To: southlake_hoosier

The rope won’t hold, but our tires will explode and our cars will go careening off a cliff. Same result.


18 posted on 06/26/2007 11:20:40 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
You think their tires are bad? Look at their cars!
19 posted on 06/26/2007 11:30:49 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: RC2
I absolutely will not buy their food.

Unfortunately, unless the only food you eat is pulled from the ground in your garden, it is just about impossible to eat foods that do not contain Chinese made ingredients.

20 posted on 06/26/2007 11:55:29 AM PDT by CT102ndInfSister
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks to our President and Congress, we have globalism!! How special!! What’s a few American lives here and there? As long as the greedy, power hungry President and Congress get their payoff. To hell with us!!


21 posted on 06/26/2007 12:25:04 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Old_Mil

In its lawsuit, filed after FTS itself was sued in the wake of the fatal accident, the company accuses the tire maker of removing the safety feature — a 0.6-millimeter layer of rubber, known as a “gum strip,” which is added between the steel belts to give the tires added durability — without notifying the distributor.
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So they build tires with steel belts riding directly on other steel belts with no rubber strip in between... I can’t see how that could lead to heat buildup ... /sarc

I would not buy Chinese anytime it came to something I truly had to depend on ... as for tires I can tell you that the popular small motorcycles there all run on 20” tires ,,, the market there demands it ... you see that way the motorcycle taxi operators can install bicycle tires...

BTW Korea manufacturers make fine quality tires..


22 posted on 06/26/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; RockinRight

Can’t they make anything right? ping...


23 posted on 06/26/2007 12:28:16 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; mom4kittys; LucyT; JACKRUSSELL

peiping


24 posted on 06/26/2007 12:44:22 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All this is normal for the Chinese.

With a billion people, I’m sure these are just ways to ensure Chinese population control.


25 posted on 06/26/2007 1:02:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Conservatives are educated. Liberals are indoctrinated.)
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26 posted on 06/26/2007 1:39:46 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Zhang Fei

>>>> When you contract out something to be built to a spec, you expect that spec throughout the contract.

It looks like this Chinese company decided that it was OK to substitute an inferior product <<<<<

>>>> Shi Xinbo, an official at Hangzhou Zhongce, said, “We are confident in our quality. <<<<<

Nope they put out a quality product Shi Xinbo even said so.

Want to know how this works?

We can all thank the ISO 9000 BS.

How do you define quality? Well in ISO 9000 a Quality Product is one that meets it’s engineering specifications.

Did ya Catch that?

So it’s tire’s are a quality product. See. So when something don’t work right you use the volume of words in the ISO chapters to blame some low level worker. Then claim to have fixed the problem by terminating ( in this case literally) the worker.

And who runs the ISO standard? The French.


27 posted on 06/26/2007 2:26:50 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: CT102ndInfSister

>>> Unfortunately, unless the only food you eat is pulled from the ground in your garden <<<<

Give this a thought:

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And when you ask “ Is this made in China?”

Company fined $6,000 for
not reporting customer’s question
“Is any of this stuff made in Israel?”
http://www.unknownnews.net/0626-2.html

Commerce Official Urges Compliance with U.S. Regulations Opposing Boycott of Israel
http://www.bis.doc.gov/news/2002/umustcomply11_4_02.htm

Some of you may think this is great. But what about When it’s applied to China.

Just Something more to think about


28 posted on 06/26/2007 2:40:07 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
Want to know how this works? We can all thank the ISO 9000 BS. How do you define quality? Well in ISO 9000 a Quality Product is one that meets it’s engineering specifications. Did ya Catch that? So it’s tire’s are a quality product. See. So when something don’t work right you use the volume of words in the ISO chapters to blame some low level worker. Then claim to have fixed the problem by terminating ( in this case literally) the worker. And who runs the ISO standard? The French.

You got that right. The amusing thing is that for a while, Chinese restaurants (in China) were putting up banners claiming that they were ISO 9000 compliant, whatever that meant. And you know what? I still got the runs from eating there. I've since learned to take Chinese product claims with a healthy dose of salt.

29 posted on 06/26/2007 6:06:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ah, so solly.


30 posted on 06/27/2007 8:50:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: Old_Mil
W0W! That is a great quote.

Much of what passes for "capitalism" nowadays is just plain wrong and should be illegal in a free country.
31 posted on 06/27/2007 9:03:32 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: NRA2BFree
I have finally decided how we can fight globalism. We can sue the b@$tards. Not the Chinese, the "American" company who does business in or with China.

Just like this business is going to be put out of business simply because they chose to do business with China, we can put other companies out of business when things go wrong, as they inevitably will.

We can use their greed against them by convincing them that it is just too expensive and risky to do business in or with China. Juries will easily find against such a company and award major damages just on general principle. If a component of a piece of a part of the product came from China, so sad, too bad, you're out of luck and out of business. Better to play it safe and make your product totally in America.
32 posted on 06/27/2007 9:32:20 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Not surprising


33 posted on 06/27/2007 9:33:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: Zhang Fei

>Yangzhou may have saved itself millions or even tens of
>millions of dollars by omitting that feature. But it has just
>dealt itself out of the US market.

No it hasn’t.

It will simply subcontract with a willing middleman who the American distributor buys from instead because of the low price.


34 posted on 06/27/2007 10:10:44 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
More consequences of phoney "free trade". In a true market situation...the costs of the bad tires would already have forced the reliance on the Chinese suppliers to be terminated. But FTS top honchos must be simply planning on obsconding with its loot, and filing the company in banko. Then starting it all over again.


35 posted on 06/27/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Dark Wing
No it hasn’t. It will simply subcontract with a willing middleman who the American distributor buys from instead because of the low price.

I know a few people in the import export business. Anyone who buys hundreds of thousands of any product will want to see the plant. Following this debacle, they will also randomly test batches to make sure they're up to spec, passing on added the cost to the customer. But it's the price importers will have to pay for the liability coverage without which they can't be in business.

36 posted on 06/27/2007 11:28:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The only people who are going to be able to make a living are the Lawyers who will be suing the snot out of Chinese importers and the health care professionals who will be scraping us up from the pavement to either heal or bury us.


37 posted on 06/27/2007 11:37:29 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: quietolong

Hey thank you! Awesome information... I’ll pass it on!


38 posted on 06/28/2007 12:05:31 AM PDT by CT102ndInfSister
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