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Chains refuse to put calories on menus
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 6/26/07 | DAVID B. CARUSO

Posted on 06/26/2007 12:17:48 PM PDT by libertarianPA

NEW YORK - Don't expect to see the calorie count for Burger King's Double Whopper with cheese on the menu anytime soon.

Burger King, McDonald's and Wendy's are among the chains planning to defy New York City's new rule that they begin posting calories on menus Sunday.

Other big fast food eateries like Taco Bell and KFC aren't saying whether they will comply, but with just days to go until the deadline, the menu boards in their Big Apple restaurants remain unchanged.

All are hoping a New York Restaurant Association lawsuit in federal court will get the new regulation thrown out. Meanwhile, the city won't fine anyone for violating it until October.

"We are not trying to avoid providing this information to customers," said Wendy's spokesman Denny Lynch. He noted that the company has made nutritional information available for 30 years on fliers and posters.

However, New York is the first city in the country to require certain fast food restaurants to list calorie counts next to menu items in type that is at least as large as the price.

Lynch says adding all those numbers will make menus impossible to read.

"You'll either have to have a Times Square-sized menu board, or it could look like a bad day at the eye doctor's office," said Jack Whipple, president of the National Council of Chain Restaurants."

Fast food chains also say they have been unfairly singled because the new rule only applies to restaurants that serve standardized portions and offer nutritional information voluntarily.

Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a health advocacy group, had a different take:

"They are afraid that when people see these eye-popping calorie numbers, they might switch to a smaller size," he said. "They feel it is gong to hurt sales."

For the record, that Double Whopper with Cheese will run you 990 calories, or more than half the recommended daily calories for an adult woman.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: calories; cspi; fastfood; foodpolice; mcdonalds; menus; nutrition; restaurants
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Good for them! It's about d@mn time someone stood up to liberal fascism.

If a functioning adult doesn't understand that eating at McDonald's or Burger King is not beneficial for their weight and health, tough shite!

If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all.
-Jacob Hornberger

1 posted on 06/26/2007 12:17:51 PM PDT by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA

Good for them, indeed! Exactly my thought. Think I’ll go get a double-double, just to show THEM. The little Thought Control Police. How about them getting a LIFE?


2 posted on 06/26/2007 12:19:20 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: libertarianPA

Applause to them! I am sick of the food police.


3 posted on 06/26/2007 12:24:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: libertarianPA

I was hoping that POS in the movie “SUPER SIZE ME” had a heart attack.

We all know the food at McDonald’s, BK, Wendy’s, Taco Bell, is crap...that’s why we like it.

So for those morbily obese folks....they are the canary in the mineshaft of freedom.


4 posted on 06/26/2007 12:24:43 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: libertarianPA

Doesn’t really matter whether they do or they don’t. If they do, it’s just one more thing for me to ignore.


5 posted on 06/26/2007 12:24:46 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: libertarianPA

I know that if I eat it, I will get fat. I don’t need to know how fat I will be getting. I like to be surprised.


6 posted on 06/26/2007 12:26:59 PM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: bboop

Thanks a lot. I no longer live in California and because of you I now crave a double double with cheese and have no In-N-Out Burger chains anywhere near me. To make up for this cruelty, you must order TWO double doubles, not one.

:-)


7 posted on 06/26/2007 12:28:27 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: libertarianPA
the Center for Science in the Public Interest,

this "center" has nothing to do with Science and even less for the public interest...their goal is to have us doing required morning excersizes

These folks are the same killjoys who advised that I should not be eating beef chimichanga's every day.... Like that needs to be said.

8 posted on 06/26/2007 12:28:59 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: libertarianPA

Hear hear. Around Silicon Valley it’s common to see the nutritional content on a poster on the wall near the counter. That’s good enough for the few of us that would want to look at it.


9 posted on 06/26/2007 12:29:49 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: libertarianPA
Other that ingredients,I don’t think the seller has to post anything he dosn’t think is necessary. If the customer don’t like it, he is free to go somewhere else

This has little to do with fast food, but has anybody tried to read a label lately, and especially if it is a small package? It can't be done. Basically, the label has to repeated in one or more languages. Then the UPAC code has to be large enough for the myoptic code readers to scan it. By the time all the garbage is piled onto the label the the print is impossible to read.

10 posted on 06/26/2007 12:30:21 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: All

I am SHOCKED to learn that McDonalds food is unhealthy!!! Thank you New York liberals for educating me and setting me straight, I owe my life to liberalism.


11 posted on 06/26/2007 12:30:37 PM PDT by CaliGangsta
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To: libertarianPA
For the record, that Double Whopper with Cheese will run you 990 calories, or more than half the recommended daily calories for an adult woman.

So? I wasn't planning on eating two of them. Mmmmm... flame broiled.

12 posted on 06/26/2007 12:31:08 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: bboop

How about the nanny state types getting a JOB?


13 posted on 06/26/2007 12:32:46 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Forget the fence....Build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.)
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To: Ouderkirk
That’s like the Center for Truth and Justice. I should be called Center for Lies and Extortion.
14 posted on 06/26/2007 12:33:16 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: libertarianPA

Screw the calories, I want to know if there are ingredients from china!


15 posted on 06/26/2007 12:34:18 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: libertarianPA
Chains refuse to put calories on menus

Funny, I didn't think menus were edible.

16 posted on 06/26/2007 12:34:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

It’s easier to let the productive ones establish and advance the society economically so they can sit on their pedistals and criticize it.

Do they think the poor b@stards in Darfur have time to ponder whether or not it’s right to list the calories of a Big Mac on a menu?

This is the sign of a society so advanced, we have time to waste being concerned with this crap.


17 posted on 06/26/2007 12:36:45 PM PDT by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: Ouderkirk

They are worse than that. They are animal rights whackos. They want us all to be vegetarians, even though I’ve seen some funny stuff showing how many fuzzy little creatures are killed during harvesting, etc. Maybe they want us to live on water alone.

You notice that the media never mentions the SCPI’s real agenda.


18 posted on 06/26/2007 12:37:05 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: libertarianPA

Don’t worry, nanny government will FORCE them to do in the not so distant future


19 posted on 06/26/2007 12:38:13 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: bboop
“Think I’ll go get a double-double, just to show THEM.”

The BK triple whopper with cheese is my favorite. I normally have two of those with fries and a large chocolate shake.

I have no idea how many calories that is but I trust they aren’t cheating me out of any of them I paid for.

20 posted on 06/26/2007 12:39:14 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Pining_4_TX

It’s funny. The animal rights fascists compeletely ignore the fact that we’d have to kill forest creatures by the scores in order to clear out the land required to grow enough food for everyone to go vegetarian.

Another example of the perfect-world theory of the Left.


21 posted on 06/26/2007 12:39:47 PM PDT by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: libertarianPA

You know....we should get a law passed that shows exactly (on internet) what any PUBLICLY Paid official eats on our money....


22 posted on 06/26/2007 12:40:22 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: CaliGangsta
Years and years ago I startled going to to McDonald's because I knew I would not be getting a ptomaine burger filled with red dye, which I was allergic. I knew I could get fries not fried in lard.
23 posted on 06/26/2007 12:41:02 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: libertarianPA

Bush needs to sign an executive order, pronto.


24 posted on 06/26/2007 12:41:14 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: goodnesswins

Accountability is not a job requirement for the public servant.


25 posted on 06/26/2007 12:41:34 PM PDT by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: libertarianPA
Burger King, McDonald's and Wendy's are among the chains planning to defy New York City's new rule that they begin posting calories on menus Sunday.

I believe these chains already have all the nutrition information, including calorie counts, available on all their menu items. Sounds like NY is just wanting to make things more difficult. (Does NY make ALL restaurants do this? Somehow I doubt it.)

26 posted on 06/26/2007 12:43:27 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: libertarianPA
This is exactly the way to deal with all of this nanny-state crap.

Ignore it.

27 posted on 06/26/2007 12:44:04 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: libertarianPA
McDonalds lost my business when their fries started tasting like cardboard. Burger King in East Tennessee are by in large pathetic and I’m being charitable. My last meal there included a Whopper {the only thing actually done right} a hamburger pouring out the sides with mustard and ketchup, half frozen fries, and a coke in which after drinking I found a dead fly in the cup. Wendy’s is where I go now for a burger or a mom and pop type grill. Special orders don’t make them come unglued and I’ve never got a burger that wasn’t fully cooked.

As for eating fast food Subway usually gets my money. The healthy side is a plus but to be honest a foot long Roast Beast on White made to order to me taste far better than anything the other fast food chains can produce. Wendy’s is second IMO in overall quality.

28 posted on 06/26/2007 12:47:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: libertarianPA
This is the sign of a society so advanced, we have time to waste being concerned with this crap.

And that's not a good thing. We need to go back to a part-time legislature across the board!

29 posted on 06/26/2007 12:53:40 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time! (http://www.byj.co.kr))
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To: Beagle8U

4010 calories, 226 grams of fat.


30 posted on 06/26/2007 12:53:41 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: libertarianPA
This is really a bunch of elitist crap. Notice that they don’t make the tony restaurants divulge this, even though a lot of their meals pack in even more fat and calories than Mickie-D’s?
31 posted on 06/26/2007 12:56:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: everyone

Definitely — good for them!!!


32 posted on 06/26/2007 1:01:14 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: cva66snipe
McDonalds lost my business when their fries started tasting like cardboard.

Me too -- when they knuckled under to the health nuts and stopped making them in suet. Oooh, they used to be soooo good. And knuckling under only encourages them -- they're never satisfied!

33 posted on 06/26/2007 1:01:39 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Ouderkirk

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette referred to CSPI as a “consumer group.”

If they are a consumer group then the KKK is a race relations think tank.


34 posted on 06/26/2007 1:02:42 PM PDT by relictele
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To: libertarianPA
the fact that we’d have to kill forest creatures by the scores in order to clear out the land required to grow enough food for everyone to go vegetarian.

Probably not. It takes far more farmland to grow grain for a food animal to eat than it would to feed you directly.

That said, plants are what food eats. :-)

35 posted on 06/26/2007 1:08:45 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: cva66snipe

From Straightdope:

What is the origin of the phrase “by and large?” Why do Americans say something so completely inane? My sister has been agonizing over that one for years. (Well, maybe she hasn’t actually agonized over it, but she really wants to know.) —Robert Cook

SDSTAFF Dex replies:

Americans? Olivia Isil cites the BBC’s highly acclaimed screen adaptation of Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice, where Miss Bennet remarks on the betrothal of Mr. Wickham to the odious Miss King: “by and large, it was to be expected.”

The phrase “by and large” today means “generally speaking,” “mostly” or “on the whole.” The origin is nautical, and had a very precise meaning. It was an order to the man at the helm of a sailing ship, meaning to sail the ship slightly off the wind. A similar command was “full and by” which meant to “sail as close to the wind as it can go.”

The risk of sailing too close to the wind was the danger of being “taken aback” (when the sails press against the mast and progress halts.)

Thus, when a person doesn’t want to “sail” directly into a statement, “by and large” is a hedge, a phrase of circumspection, a way of saying that the statement is an imprecise generality.

Sources:
Olivia Isil, When a Loose Cannon Flogs a Dead Horse, There’s the Devil to Pay (seafaring words in everyday speech)
William and Mary Morris, Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins
Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable


36 posted on 06/26/2007 1:15:32 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: libertarianPA
I think most of us know that when we order a double bacon cheeseburger, side of fries and a chocolate shake it is fairly high in fat and calories.....but dang it sure tastes good.....
37 posted on 06/26/2007 1:19:38 PM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: libertarianPA
Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest...

The Center for Science in the Public Interest??? That's about as legitimate a group as the N.O.W. gang, or the NAA_L_CP...

38 posted on 06/26/2007 1:24:09 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: All

I seldom eat at fast food joints but the thing that gripes me is that the portions (and the prices) of most food in nice restaurants are way to much. If they let me, I get the child’s plate. If I have to get the adult plate I order a takeout box to be delivered with my meal. I can eat until I’m full at the restaurant and eat leftovers for two days for lunch on one meal. If they are going to supersize all their meals they need to offer a “ladies” portion too at a lower price.


39 posted on 06/26/2007 1:27:37 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: Pining_4_TX

They are animal rights whackos are less concerned with animal rights than their aspirations for power. If they get any traction they will go after any thing that has do do with animals, dairry farms, ranches, sheep farmers, packing plants, horse stables, horse racing, zoos, pedigreed breeds, police dogs, guide dogs, what have you. The results will be a huge reduction of the animal population.


40 posted on 06/26/2007 1:29:58 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: libertarianPA

Its their right. Anyone who isn’t retarded knows that a burger and fries aren’t exactly health food.


41 posted on 06/26/2007 1:35:11 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Publius Valerius
“4010 calories, 226 grams of fat.”

Cool! That means I have room to stop at the ice cream shop on the way home.

42 posted on 06/26/2007 1:47:40 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

Can I have lunch/dinner/desert with you?


43 posted on 06/26/2007 2:14:32 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: libertarianPA

Except we all have to pay for the fatties w/higher insurance premiums.


44 posted on 06/26/2007 2:20:50 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: dearolddad
Sure, why not.

My favorite desert is from the local soft-serve ice cream shop, the Pecan Royal.

Ice cream, hot fudge, covered with pecans, whipped cream and a cherry.

For breakfast I like 6 eggs OE, new york strip-rare, hash browns and toast.

I still never gained any weight all the time I was working.

I’m 6’1” and stayed at about 190#.

I don’t eat as much now that I’m not working.

45 posted on 06/26/2007 2:25:02 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: libertarianPA

Calories taste good! The better it tastes the more calories it has. It is not rocket science.


46 posted on 06/26/2007 3:02:44 PM PDT by Starstruck
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To: libertarianPA

Ummmm! A Burger King whopper with cheese. I’m getting a woodie.


47 posted on 06/26/2007 3:11:09 PM PDT by fightu4it (conquest by immigration and subversion spells the end of US.)
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To: Beagle8U

I like your spirit, Beagle. Are you one of those skinny guys with a hollow leg who can eat anything and not gain weight?


48 posted on 06/26/2007 3:15:26 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Old Professer

Thanks for that, a, tidbit.


49 posted on 06/26/2007 3:29:00 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Pining_4_TX
Is 6’1” 190# skinny?

Yes, I can eat anything and as much as I want without gaining weight.

My cholesterol is, as my Dr. says, surprisingly perfect.

50 posted on 06/26/2007 5:06:23 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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