Posted on 06/27/2007 7:40:17 AM PDT by 300magnum
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In June 2004, Bush signed the Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico. Up until then, he made no secrets about his desire to legalize Mexican illegal aliens.
He listened to your votes in November 2004 as a mandate to accomplish that goal.
Maybe next time, you'll be a little less cavalier about for whom you cast your vote.
I agree with you completely. This immigration bill would never have been introduced by a Democrat President-this close to an election. Also ‘ketchup boy’ would have had to worry about re-election. He wouldn’t be a lame duck like President Bush. No-by continuing to vote for this party-GOP- we give tacit approval to their behavior-No More. I am done.
Okay, this isn’t a Republican bill.
Unfortunately, it is a Republican bill. It's Bush's bill all the way.
That doesn't make it a conservative bill.
Yes it is a Republican bill. It could not have been passed without help from Bush and the Republican leadership-sorry. The GOP has foisted this on us and will pay dearly for their treason.
There will be no Republican base in my opinion. When hard-core Repubs such as myself are willing to in essence throw their votes away on 3rd party candidates. The GOP is cooked in 2008 and probably in 2012. They think we hate, fear Hillary Clinton enough to put this behind us and vote for them. Boy, will they be surprised when this doesn’t happen.
And the choice would be........................
The point is that we knew Bush would do this when we voted for him; he didn’t hide on any of these issues like a lot of politicians do. I really doubt that Weird Al and Ketchup Boy would have given us tax cuts and the subsequent economic recovery or any decent judges or even a halfway decent response to Islamo-terror. But the Europeons would have liked us better. So immigration turns out to be a good issue to fight the president on
This is not true. President Bush always said he was against amnesty. Yesterday, President Bush admitted this bill gives amnesty to illegals despite Tony Snow’s pitiful attempts at explaining his remarks-mispoke. Thus President Bush said what he needed to say in order to get elected-he lied. I thought he was a man of integrity; he is not.
All this nonsense about how he cares for the poor illegals etc...nonsense. This is about cheap labor for his corporate buddies who want to shift the cost of healthcare, social services,schools etc from corporation to the taxpayers . It truly is corporate wellfare.
Meanwhile, America becomes a cesspool with millions of very poor workers-viewed as secondclass citizen. It’s a form of slavery-disgraceful.
That’s been the problem; he thinks this isn’t amnesty and that bullshit about “the jobs Americans won’t do” really pisses me off. However, we have better chance fighting him on this than we would have had with Weird Al or Ketchup Boy. (ref Clinton, NAFTA, GATT)
I do not believe a sitting Dem President up for re-election in 2008 would have supported an amnesty bill-not with something like 75% Americans against it. Ironically-the guy we trusted to keep this country safe will cause more damage than Jimmy Carter.
LOL - nah, a long way to go to reach Carter or even Johnson or Clinton proportions. But a rat president would have been able to shepherd the illegals bill through pretty easily as Ol’ Slick showed us with GATT and NAFTA. Bush will have problems.
Thank you.
I think the damage this bill will cause is huge. First, we will end up with national healthcare. With millions of unisured people who are used to national health added to this country it’s a done deal. Next, social security is going to take a huge hit-it was already in bad shape to begin with. Public education is alread mediocre and expensive. It will get worse. In Georgia, we have had great difficulties in educating non-english speaking children. Wages will decline and kids will have trouble landing jobs as well. My son (17) was turned down at the local MacDonalds for a job because he is not bilingual. Then you have a fair number of Mexicans who believe the southwest should really belong to them...not the US. This bill is a disaster. It’s implications are horrific and lasting.
This is why the country is in the state it is.
What do you mean, 'we'? I didn't vote for him in 2000 or 2004 because I knew what he wanted.
I really doubt that Weird Al and Ketchup Boy would have given us tax cuts and the subsequent economic recovery or any decent judges or even a halfway decent response to Islamo-terror. But the Europeons would have liked us better. So immigration turns out to be a good issue to fight the president on
By how much did your taxes go down because of Bush's tax cuts? Mine went up. So did the cost of gas. Funny how the supply of oil went down after he invaded Iraq, isn't it?
Economic recovery? It was Bush himself that caused the sub-prime debacle by enacting the New Alliance Task Force in 2001. This directed the FDIC to relax banking rules that allowed Mexican illegal aliens to obtain US bank accounts and along with them, auto and home loans. He orderd the border patrol to stand down and relaxed border enforcement to allow millions of Mexican illegal aliens to overrun the border since he's been in office.
It was his judge, John Paul Stevens who wrote the majority opinion in Kelo vs. New London that gives the green light to cities to take private property from one owner and give it to another.
And now, he refuses to build the fence along the southern border in spite of the fact that he signed the bill into law and wants to give amnesty to 20+ million lawbreakers, not to mention giving US Social Security benefits to the illegals' and their families back home in Mexico.
Sorry, but I'm not nearly as enamored with Bush as you.
Once again, I doubt this bill will pass. It seems your son will have his problems with or without it.
I pay more in taxes because our income went up quite a bit after the diaster of the late 90s. And, as you should know, oil’s not the problem, gasoline is. Enamoured is not the word - he’s done some good and some bad like all politicians. And, as you refused to read before, I give him zero support on the illegals issue. But your welcome to vote for Hilary or Obama or Edwards next time so go for it, knock yourself out.
OOPS - diaster = disaster
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