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US House Votes Itself A Payraise
Savethegop.com ^ | June 28,2007 | Mark Harris

Posted on 06/28/2007 5:12:32 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Say What? That’s right the most “ethical” congress in history voted itself a payhike today. I am looking for the roll call and I will post it when it when I find it.

Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., and Minority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., worked the floor during the vote to make sure there was relative balance between the warring parties in delivering votes. Working through Blunt, Hoyer forced more than a dozen Republicans to switch their votes in support of accepting the raise, including Mike Pence and Daniel Burton of Indiana and Fred Upton, Dave Camp and Vernon Ehlers of Michigan.

Pence did what? Hoyer and Blunt working in tandem, what in the WORLD was going on in the House today?!?!!? I mean holy insanity! The article is a must read though extremely depressing.

Roll call is apparently here but it wasn’t a straight up or down on the payraise but a vote about voting on it…

(Excerpt) Read more at savethegop.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; payraise
Pelosi doesn't have enough perks.

Wednesday voted to accept an approximately $4,400 pay raise that will increase their salaries to almost $170,000.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/27/AR2007062702172.html

1 posted on 06/28/2007 5:12:33 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

435 house representatives times $4,400 equals $1,914,000 in government waste a year.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 5:15:51 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: All

Congress’s little way of sticking it to da man = US.

How come Dennis Kookinich and the rest of the nut crowd did not go on a rampage over this? I guess even the nut crowd thinks of their own pockets first. Maxine Waters needs the raise for airfare to send the kids to Cuba to visit their Uncle Fidel.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 5:16:19 AM PDT by WBL 1952
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To: WBL 1952

Democrats last year fulfilled a campaign promise to deny themselves a pay hike until Congress raised the minimum wage. Delays in the minimum wage bill cost every lawmaker about $3,100 this year.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/27/congress.raise.ap/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Raise, raise, Raise.... next you know it will be Taxes.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 5:20:16 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

$170,000 X 435 representatives = $73,950,000 in government waste a year......


5 posted on 06/28/2007 5:24:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: AmericanMade1776
435 house representatives times $4,400 equals $1,914,000 in government waste a year.

Yes. Since 1913, when 435 members became the set number for the House of Representatives, we've been able to declare reality and go to a single representative for the entire US instead of 1 + 434 other money sucking piglets.

I mean, with only one representative for the country, we save boatloads of money, and the "no taxation without repesentation" flimflammery will still be satisfied...

6 posted on 06/28/2007 5:25:23 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: AmericanMade1776

And just think... they’re getting a raise for going against the ideals of the majority of the American public.

Just another reason they want the Amnesty, so all the illegals can fund their salaries.

Figures.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 5:34:53 AM PDT by redlocks322
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To: AmericanMade1776

No shame


8 posted on 06/28/2007 5:36:32 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: AmericanMade1776

wtf?!


9 posted on 06/28/2007 5:39:05 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: an amused spectator
I mean, with only one representative for the country, we save boatloads of money, and the "no taxation without repesentation" flimflammery will still be satisfied...

Lots of countries have tried that...the representatives are known as "dictators"!

10 posted on 06/28/2007 5:45:16 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Yea! This will lower the approval ratings of the present Democratically controlled Congress even more!


11 posted on 06/28/2007 5:47:22 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: AmericanMade1776
It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native criminal class except Congress.

Mark Twain

12 posted on 06/28/2007 5:48:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: gunnyg

In January I got a $12.00 a month increase in my Social Society,I didn’t know what to spend it on !!


13 posted on 06/28/2007 5:49:32 AM PDT by Antique Gal
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To: AmericanMade1776

I would much rather our present pay system was changed to one where local districts and states pay representatives rather than the federal coffer. After all, that’s who these bozos are supposed to represent! Talk about “power of the purse”...


14 posted on 06/28/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
They REALLY don't care about what we think anymore. These people will regret it. I can't wait to vote AGAINST any Rino or incumbent.

Sorry bastards, the whole lot of em.

15 posted on 06/28/2007 6:11:52 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Hoyer forced more than a dozen Republicans to switch their votes

Forced??? Come on, did he hold their wives and children hostage in order to get them to change their votes?

16 posted on 06/28/2007 6:14:08 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: pgyanke

Matter of fact, US Senators until the very early 1900s were appointed by the States, as they were supposed to represent that State. Little-by-little they’ve changes things around till now they represent only each other in the congress (and themselves)—once elected, they fancy themselves rulers to screw over the poor dumbass masses—maybe they’re right—we play along w/their game don’t we?
When’s the last time even one of these tawdry turds were thrown into the streets?


17 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:39 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Vaquero
$170,000 X 435 representatives = $73,950,000 in government waste a year.

And thats not even the tip of the iceberg when you consider the costs of operations, secretaries, assistants and other "hangers on" along with all their perks such as travel, postage, health spas,barber shops etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum.

18 posted on 06/28/2007 6:19:37 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Blunt continues to embarrass Missouri.


19 posted on 06/28/2007 6:19:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I wish they would vote themselves terminated.


20 posted on 06/28/2007 6:24:31 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: AmericanMade1776

They won’t get it until after the next election (see 27th amendment). By then a lot of them will be gone. Then the next congress should repeal it (which they won’t).

Meanwhile, the deficit is down to $150 billion thanks to the tax cuts and increase in revenue. The budget could be balanced tomorrow.


21 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:51 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Vaquero
You get what you paid for.

You apparently think that that it's OK for the entire U.s. congress to make in a year as much as a star of "The Pirates of the Caribbean" makes in six weeks. I do not.

22 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:11 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

??????

I said the congress’ salary was govt. waste. unless you think they should make more?

I dont understand your response.


23 posted on 06/28/2007 6:45:51 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero
Yes, I think they should make much more. A 25-year-old kid with a Finance degree gets a senator's salary. why? That's what talent costs. Michael Jourdan gets $50M a year --- nobody complains 'cause that's what talent costs.

There are two exceptions: CEOs and senators. I would like to be led by talented people. And, since talent costs money, I am willing to pay.

I also think it is unfair to the families. A lawyer making 300,000 should all of a sudden have his salary cut in half simply because he wants to provide service to his country and run for the Senate. Even he is willing to make that sacrifice, why should his family do so? It is simply unfair.

I sum, I think it is both unfair and stupid to pay little to our elected representatives.

24 posted on 06/28/2007 12:48:01 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

I agree. 170K in Washington DC is around 50K here in Ohio. Then there is the cost of maintaining two homes, and the same bills you and I deal with.

I’d take a PAY CUT if I ran for elective office...so no chance I’ll ever toss my hat in the ring, as the saying goes.


25 posted on 06/28/2007 12:50:10 PM PDT by Badeye ("In 2 weeks, I join the list of UNEMPLOYED". ...Goldi-Lox (karma comes around))
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To: Antique Gal

Get yourself a membership at Sam’s or Costco.

LOL......You can eat at the senior buffet and save your lunch money.

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.


26 posted on 06/28/2007 12:53:17 PM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: tioga

Thanks,I was just being sarcastic,but that’s what I got for a raise twelve bucks a month no sh*t!These cretins just gave themselves a raise.They are making One Hundred Seventy Five grand year!


27 posted on 06/28/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by Antique Gal (Build the Damn Fence !!!!)
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To: Antique Gal

AND they would all vote for amnesty, but for our outrage.


28 posted on 06/28/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: TopQuark
I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Why the heck is "Senator" or "Representative" a full-time job in the first place? If they'd restrict their lawmaking activities to things which the Constitution specifically authorises them ... they'd only need to be in Washington for a month or two. It shouldn't be a full time job ... it shouldn't pay like a full time job. Let them go back to their States and Districts, do something useful for a living, and most of all live with the real-world effects of the legislation they've passed.
29 posted on 06/28/2007 1:28:02 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
All raises for the house, and senate should be by vote of the nation, not vote of the congress.
PERIOD!
30 posted on 06/28/2007 1:29:18 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Where’s the picture of Church Lady saying what she always said?


31 posted on 06/28/2007 1:30:30 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: Just another Joe
All raises for the house, and senate should be by vote of the nation, not vote of the congress. PERIOD!

You live in a representative republic.

32 posted on 06/28/2007 1:38:34 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: ArrogantBustard
I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. Why the heck is "Senator" or "Representative" a full-time job in the first place?

Not only that, but the *salary* they earn is almost petty-cash, considering all the other monies doled out to each member. Unless I'm much mistaken, they do not pay the salaries of their staff nor the fee for office upkeep out of their *yearly wages* -- they all have an enormous expense allowance/budget, travel, clothing, food, all manner of items that the taxpayer foots for them but pays for himself out of what he truly earns.

33 posted on 06/28/2007 1:42:05 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: MozarkDawg
You live in a representative republic.

OK, so we make it an amendment to the US Constitution.

34 posted on 06/28/2007 1:43:38 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Sorry, you think you contradict me but you do not: you advance an altogether different argument.

We are discussing whether to pay for something --- say, a TV set --- $300 or $500. You come in and say, why do you need tv in the first place? This may be an interesting argument, but it is unrelated to what we discussed before.

If you care, you might want to consider this question: even if they were employed part-time, by what standards should they NOT get more. They now make in a year what a moron like Adam Sandler makes in two days. I mean it literally: he makes $5M a week. Even if senators were working part-time, isn't it fair that they make at least some fraction of that? They make now about $3,000 per week. A raise to 1/10 of Sander's does not seem excessive, right?

35 posted on 06/28/2007 2:10:11 PM PDT by TopQuark
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A lawyer making 300,000 should all of a sudden have his salary cut in half simply because he wants to provide service to his country and run for the Senate.

Those are your own words, sir. Don't try to run from them.

The premise of your argument is that "Senator" is a full-time job. If it weren't, then our oh-so-public-minded lawyer wouldn't be having his "salary cut in half", now would he? Hmmm? So I attack the premise. Senator should be a part time job. Very part time.

They now make in a year what a moron like Adam Sandler makes in two days.

BFD. Are we paying folks according to IQ? Hmmm? I think not. No employer ever asked me my IQ. They asked what I could do for them. Adam Sandler entertains folks ... for which they're willing to pay a great deal of money. He's never got a red cent from me, FWIW.

So: what, exactly, are Senators doing for us that's so valuable? They're pumping up the size of the government, in contravention of their charter. They're taking our money at gunpoint, and wasting it on socialism and bureaucracy. They're attempting to micromanage our lives. They're failing to adequately defend this great Republic.

That's worth less, to me, than Adam Sandler's antics. They deserve a pay cut.

36 posted on 06/29/2007 5:32:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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