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'Home Depot' clause would bar cities from requiring labor sites
Associated Press ^ | 6/27/2007 | AP

Posted on 06/28/2007 6:00:10 AM PDT by P-40

WASHINGTON -- Home Depot is turning to Congress for help.

The home improvement company is tired of local governments forcing it to accommodate day laborers who turn up in its store parking lots seeking construction work.

The Senate has attached an amendment to a proposed immigration bill that would prohibit city councils from requiring home improvement stores to pay for shelters and services needed to maintain day labor sites.

The amendment is sponsored by Republican Senator Johnny Isakson. He says forcing companies to provide those services in order to receive permits is "extortion."

But local officials say home improvement companies have a responsibility to provide for the labor markets they attract. They also argue it's none of the federal government's business.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; day; daylaborers; homedepot; immigration; labor
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1 posted on 06/28/2007 6:00:13 AM PDT by P-40
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To: P-40

Another reason why not to shop Home Depot.


2 posted on 06/28/2007 6:01:26 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: P-40

Wait, misread that one. Home Depot is right in this case! Imagine that.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 6:02:36 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6

You do read right?


4 posted on 06/28/2007 6:02:52 AM PDT by DB
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To: Red6

Why would you boycott Home Depot, when Home Depot is saying that it should not be forced to provide facilities for (presumably) illegal daylaborers?


5 posted on 06/28/2007 6:03:22 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: P-40

What Lowe’s doesn’t have this same problem?


6 posted on 06/28/2007 6:03:59 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: P-40

Locals are right about one thing. It’s none of the feds business.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 6:04:04 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Red6
But local officials say home improvement companies have a responsibility to provide for the labor markets they attract.

I guess that means Congress should provide shelters for the hookers the congressmen attract?
8 posted on 06/28/2007 6:04:47 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Gee, don’t local officials have a responsibility to enforce laws against loitering. I’d be willing to bet that the locale has them. Or did they take those off the books?


9 posted on 06/28/2007 6:04:56 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: P-40

Pretty soon, the feds will be telling local governments what color to paint their buildings.


10 posted on 06/28/2007 6:05:37 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: P-40

This does seem to be a local-law issue.


11 posted on 06/28/2007 6:05:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Wallow in poverty, you whining gerbil! They're taking everyone's money!" ~dljordan)
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To: P-40

They already do: It’s called the Kennedy compound.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 6:07:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Red6
Why should Home Depot be responsible for these workers? Home Depot is in business to sell building products; it's not an employment agency nor the Red Cross.

Does this mean that anyone who hangs out at a business should be fed and sheltered by that business?

Based on the information presented, I'd have to side with Home Depot.

13 posted on 06/28/2007 6:07:21 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Huck

OK, but who’s going to stop localities from trampling all over private property rights?


14 posted on 06/28/2007 6:07:50 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: P-40

Fascinating; local government demanding a tax-paying law-abiding business accommodate illegal activity on private property.


15 posted on 06/28/2007 6:08:02 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Red6

Sorry, I posted as you did. Glad you saw that too.


16 posted on 06/28/2007 6:08:27 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: P-40
Carlos Mencia had a funny bit about going to Mexico and seeing a vacant building with a homemade “Home Depot” sign on it. A crowd of Mexicans were standing in front. He goes over to ask why they are there and is told it is a training facility for illegal day laborers
17 posted on 06/28/2007 6:08:28 AM PDT by Republican Red (The word "courage" is not in the liberal vocabulary)
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To: Sloth

That’s a different issue


18 posted on 06/28/2007 6:09:32 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Huck

Home Depot should not be forced to provide these accomodations.

However, the Federal government has no Constitutional power to tell the cities that they can’t enact such laws.

Home Depot can move out of the jurisdiction of these petty local tyrants.


19 posted on 06/28/2007 6:09:37 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: P-40

>> I guess that means Congress should provide shelters for the hookers the congressmen attract?

It’s good to start the morning off with a belly-laugh... thanks!


20 posted on 06/28/2007 6:09:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: P-40

Local governments are wrong to do this, but that doesn’t mean it’s a Federal issue.

Our local Walmarts have tried to cajole city governments into changing zoning laws, etc. in order to get their stores located where they wanted them.

Let them deal with the local officials in the same way. If they don’t like the municipality’s laws, take it to the public who elect the municipality’s leaders.


21 posted on 06/28/2007 6:10:03 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: P-40

I assume this was shot down yesterday with the other amendments. Of course, if you have not plan to support the bill, as both Chambliss and Isakson assured all of us angry constituents, why do you work to add amendments? Hmmmm.


22 posted on 06/28/2007 6:11:42 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Huck
Locals are right about one thing. It’s none of the feds business.

But it is still extortion by the locals.

23 posted on 06/28/2007 6:11:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Huck

Actually it is the Feds business. They should be there busting illegals and shipping them back home.

These labor sites are mostly ilegals hanging around looking for jobs. Send the illegals home and the problem is solved.


24 posted on 06/28/2007 6:13:08 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: mewzilla

“Gee, don’t local officials have a responsibility to enforce laws against loitering. I’d be willing to bet that the locale has them. Or did they take those off the books?”

“The People’s Republik of Madistan” didn’t enforce theirs until things got really bad, i.e. open-air drug deals, Gang Bangers shootin’ up the streets at bar time, rowdy fistfights with chains and broken bottles after Hip-Hop concerts, etc.
They said those loitering laws discriminate against the “upstanding citizens” that are just out having fun! Yeesh!

(Hint: It wasn’t a bunch of Amish Youths coming in from the farm causing the problems. I’ve never SEEN a city so afraid of offending thugs in my life!)


25 posted on 06/28/2007 6:14:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: HaveHadEnough
Pretty soon, the feds will be telling local governments what color to paint their buildings.

This actually is a legitimate interstate commerce issue though. Local governments should not be able to target certain retailers to coerce them into supporting illegal activity.

26 posted on 06/28/2007 6:14:52 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: P-40

I’ll take Home Depots side on this one. They are a supplier of materials, not a labor provider. If the Local Communities want to stop the Illegal Day Laborers from congregating, they need start penalizing those that hire them. Stop the hiring, stop the congregating. It’s a terrible thing for our local doughnut shops I realize, but something of this nature has to be done interim until we can get the Federal Government to honor the contract with America and enforce existing Border laws. It’s one of the primary responsibilities of the Executive Branch of our Government.


27 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:19 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Huck
It may be none of the fed’s business but I don’t want to pay higher prices at Home Depot because they are being forced to pay for service for illegal aliens. I think this is city government running amok!
28 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:24 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: sgtbono2002
Actually it is the Feds business. They should be there busting illegals and shipping them back home.

It also legitimately falls under interstate commerce.

29 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:39 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: P-40
I shop at Home Depot and the dirty scum hanging out their OFFEND ME!

They are foul mouthed (I do know a few Spanish curse words), pushy and leave trash all over the place. They need to be "sheltered" in jail.

If they were white they would be cited for loitering.


30 posted on 06/28/2007 6:15:45 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Tax-chick

It WOULD be a local-law issue if the illegals using the sites werent violation federal law.


31 posted on 06/28/2007 6:16:13 AM PDT by MacDorcha (study links agenda-driven morons and junk science...)
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To: elizabetty
their = there (go get some coffee Elizabetty)
32 posted on 06/28/2007 6:16:45 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Well, I have two words for Home Depot: Evergreen Park.

Worked for Wally in a similar situation where a municipal government was running amok.

33 posted on 06/28/2007 6:17:12 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: elizabetty

Not only that, but if a customer is ever harmed by one of these laborers, I’ll bet the city won’t pay the damages and legal fees Home Depot would incur from a lawsuit...


34 posted on 06/28/2007 6:18:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: P-40; kt56

What I would throw up a couple of 4x4 posts and put some tin corrugated roofing up on top. Then when the illegals congregate, pick up the phone and call ICE. I wonder how quickly word would get around that Home Depot isn’t safe anymore for illegals..


35 posted on 06/28/2007 6:20:28 AM PDT by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision)
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To: sgtbono2002
Actually it is the Feds business. They should be there busting illegals and shipping them back home.

Illegals are their business, and granted, day laborers are mostly illegals, but it's still none of the feds bizness if a local gubmint hassles a business about a day labor shelter.

36 posted on 06/28/2007 6:20:54 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Sloth
OK, but who’s going to stop localities from trampling all over private property rights?

Locals.

37 posted on 06/28/2007 6:21:26 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Huck

“Locals are right about one thing. It’s none of the feds business.”

The locals are forcing companies to provide facilities for people trespassing on their property.

The fed should be arresting those day laborers that are illegals.


38 posted on 06/28/2007 6:22:02 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Red6
Another reason why not to shop Home Depot.

Huh? Home Depot want to END laws that force them to accomodate illegal aliens.

39 posted on 06/28/2007 6:22:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Always Right
But it is still extortion by the locals.

Oh well. Pretty typical. I just got off the phone w/ a guy had to spend $300 on an electrician/permits to move his lit exit sign 3 feet, cuz some local authority told him to.

40 posted on 06/28/2007 6:22:26 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: misharu
What I would throw up a couple of 4x4 posts and put some tin corrugated roofing up on top.

I guess they could also charge a fee to use a site and require 1099s to be filed with the IRS up front. :)
41 posted on 06/28/2007 6:22:58 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: driftdiver
The fed should be arresting those day laborers that are illegals.

True. Especially since the locals are making sure they're conveniently located in one place.

42 posted on 06/28/2007 6:23:26 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Military family member

They should charge the Day Laborers... Watch them disappear quickly.


43 posted on 06/28/2007 6:24:04 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: sgtbono2002

Why doesn’t Home Depot have them removed for trespassing? Parking lots for businesses are usually private property. And I’d say loitering alone should get them removed. Laws for some, but not for others?


44 posted on 06/28/2007 6:25:43 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: mewzilla
Gee, don’t local officials have a responsibility to enforce laws against loitering.

These laws are only enforced for citizen people hanging around their friends that don't fit an ideal mold.

45 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:08 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Always Right
This actually is a legitimate interstate commerce issue though. Local governments should not be able to target certain retailers to coerce them into supporting illegal activity.

By today's hopelessly liberal reading of "interstate commerce", pretty much anything is justified. But in this case, if you want to pretend that you respect the intent of the Constitution, no way this is a fed matter. Even though we all can assume most day laborers are illegal, you can't automatically equate one with the other. I could be a day laborer if I wanted. Someone with legal status could be a day laborer. So no, forcing Home Depot to accommodate day laborers is not the same as forcing them to accommodate illegals, even if the net result is the same. In fact, the locals could rightly BLAME the feds for the fact that so many day laborers are illegal. The locals just want to corral them into one place, and being local gubmint, they were able to force the business to do it. The feds job is to enforce immigration law, not local zoning law.

46 posted on 06/28/2007 6:28:06 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You know, I heard that a gang problem in an Australian neighborhood was taken care of by blasting Barry Manilow tunes. Maybe the Home Depots should try it to get rid of day laborers.

I have also noticed anytime there is a group of people holding anti-illegal signs and waving the U.S. flag, then the area is suddenly clear.

47 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:29 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: HungarianGypsy
Maybe Home Depot should just holler La Migra! periodically over a loudspeaker.
48 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Huck

“Locals are right about one thing. It’s none of the feds business.”

The Feds should cut off ALL federal funds to any city/county that provides/requires anything but a call to the Border Patrol to come and haul them awsy.


49 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:23 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: P-40
Maybe we should build a bunch of these.

Deport the workers and their families will follow.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!

50 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:14 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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