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Live Thread: Senate Amnesty Debate (CRITICAL 2ND CLOTURE VOTE TODAY!) Woo hoo!! It's DEAD!!
The U.S. Senate with Free Republic Input | June 28, 2007 | truthkeeper

Posted on 06/28/2007 6:25:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Here we are again my friends, hopefully for the last debate thread on this particular monstrous legislation. Proceedings are supposed to begin at 9:30 a.m. EST, with the cloture vote being taken at 10:30 a.m.

On a personal note, you've all been wonderful in your passion, vigilance, and commitment to the principles on which our country was founded. If I have to be in a foxhole, I want to be in it with you guys.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; itsdeadjim; sellouts; stickaforkinit; ussenate; vampirebill
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And now...once more unto the breach!
1 posted on 06/28/2007 6:25:59 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: Admin Moderator

Oops, I forgot to put today’s date in the title. That’s important. Could you add that, pretty please? Thx


2 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:50 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

I been waitin for you to put this up. Good luck to all of us today.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 6:26:50 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: truthkeeper

I’ll be interested to see the final tally of the senators up for reelection next year.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 6:27:59 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: truthkeeper

Like Jeff Sessions said, “let’s end this thing.”


5 posted on 06/28/2007 6:28:12 AM PDT by GiveEmDubya (I'm With Fred)
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placemark


6 posted on 06/28/2007 6:29:01 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: truthkeeper

GOD bless you for putting this up. In work and lurk mode all morning, with prayers up to boot.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 6:29:14 AM PDT by Marathoner
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To: truthkeeper
This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian.’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispian’s day.’
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.




Period. Dot. Bingo.

8 posted on 06/28/2007 6:30:59 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: truthkeeper

9:30. “We are here! We are here!”


9 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:03 AM PDT by Graymatter (New legislators. No new laws. ... Let's clean house. And senate.)
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To: Guenevere; All

Chaplain giving the opening prayer now.


10 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:03 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: All

http://www.920wgka.com/

David Vitter on live here soon.


11 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:08 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: truthkeeper

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/27/audio-voinovich-humiliates-himself-in-shamnesty-debate-with-hannity/


12 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:35 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: truthkeeper
Just so you all know, we, the people, don't have a say in this.

From this link...

Senate Defectors Cast Doubt on Fate of U.S. Immigration Measure

...``We are in trench warfare, and it's going to be rough,'' said Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Specter, a chief sponsor of the legislation. ``But we are going to see the will of the Senate work one way or another.''

No hubris on display there. Nah.

13 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: truthkeeper; ken5050
Thanks truthie!!!
14 posted on 06/28/2007 6:31:49 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Petronski

Thank you. Lovely, isn’t it?


15 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:10 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

many thanks...


16 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:21 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: truthkeeper
I've been emailing the Colorado senators. Salazar (D) is still pushing this crap. Here's his response to my last email:
Thank you for contacting me regarding immigration reform. I appreciate
hearing from you.

As you may know,  immigration reform legislation was brought back to the
Senate for further consideration on June 26.  In my view, this is our best
chance to pass a bill that will secure the borders, strengthen and enforce
our immigration laws, and provide a realistic solution for the 12 million
undocumented workers in our country. The problem of illegal immigration is
comprehensive in nature, and thus requires a comprehensive solution. I look
forward to working with the President and my Republican and Democratic
colleagues to strengthen our national security and create a real
immigration system for the future.

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your views. I will certainly
keep them in mind as the Senate debates this important legislation.

Sincerely,

Ken Salazar
United States Senator

17 posted on 06/28/2007 6:32:29 AM PDT by snarkpup (We need to replace our politicians before they replace us.)
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To: truthkeeper; ken5050
okay, it is still early.

Do you want to go on record as to your vote count prediction for today?

18 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:13 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: truthkeeper; All

FYI...in a few minutes..9:35..David Vitter live on with Laura Ingraham..he’s in the Senate cloakroom..


19 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:19 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: mainepatsfan
I’ll be interested to see the final tally of the senators up for reelection next year.

Some of the really interesting ones to watch that are up in 2008 are Pyror (D-AR), Landreiu (D-LA), Sununu (R-NH), Coleman (R-MN).

I also be iterested to see what Voinovich (R-Crybabyville) will do.

20 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:33 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Kill Bill II, The Night of the Living Dead Amnesty.)
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To: truthkeeper
My devotional Psalm this AM...Psalm 71!!!...very applicable!
21 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: truthkeeper

Hey, we’re in this together. It’s a fight for the survival of the America we know and love. “It’s what you do in a herd...”


22 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:51 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: truthkeeper

It is indeed lovely, and all the moreso with victory again in sight.


23 posted on 06/28/2007 6:33:56 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Guenevere

Kennedy and Specter will be controlling the time for the two sides...one hour total for debate, equally divided.


24 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:02 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: KC Burke

What will McConnell do?..


25 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:06 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: truthkeeper

Just to think for a moment how tone deaf these supporting senators are and the president.
When the priority has to be winning in Iraq and protecting this nation, the president shoots himself in the foot and stabs his few supporters left in the back.
His political advisors are destroying the Republican party and setting us back by 30 years as a conservative movement.
Fools all of them.


26 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:11 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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bookmark and bump


27 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:30 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: truthkeeper
Good morning and thanks for putting this up.

Got my fingers crossed that this beast will go down today.

28 posted on 06/28/2007 6:34:32 AM PDT by norton
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To: snarkpup
comprehensive

All the amnesty supporters seem to be using that word.

29 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:02 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Petronski

That poem was the first thing I thought of when I saw this post.

That and Bluto saying,”Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? HELL NO! And its not over now.”

Godspeed and good luck to us all.


30 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:27 AM PDT by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: ken5050

Swimmer up!!! the vote is at 10:50


31 posted on 06/28/2007 6:35:43 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Guenevere
Kennedy and Specter are controlling the time for the “two” sides: The Democrats for the Bill and the Republicans for the Bill.
32 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:10 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: truthkeeper

bttt


33 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:13 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Romans 10:9)
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To: mainepatsfan

Swimmer sounds depressed..like he knows what’s abotu to happen..


34 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:25 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: truthkeeper
Sessions said....ideally....they should have given equal time to pro amnesty and anti amnesty....

..but they are only allowing Session 10 minutes...

...they get the other 50 minutes!

35 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:35 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: KC Burke
Do you want to go on record as to your vote count prediction for today?

According to Laura Ingraham, it may be changing by the minute. She feels very strong about us pulling this out and will have David Vitter on her program in just a few moments. He will have more insight on that vote count, perhaps.

Correction: Vote will be held at 10:50 a.m.

Kennedy speaking now. He looks sort of grim, imho.

36 posted on 06/28/2007 6:36:54 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin;
If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires.
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England.
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more methinks would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is call’d the feast of Crispian.
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam’d,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian.’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispian’s day.’
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did that day. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester-
Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.


37 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:13 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: truthkeeper

Thanks for the live thread!


38 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:13 AM PDT by publana (Build the fence!)
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To: truthkeeper
Most Merciful Father, how the clarity of Your Word is needed this day, for there are those who would have us believe that wrong is right. May the Power of the Holy Spirit so overwhelm those in authority over us, that they would be constrained to do only that which is right and good in Your sight. In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we bind all demonic powers that have come upon our beloved land, whose purpose is to destroy all that is holy and good. Set aside every evil plan that comes upon our President ... let him see only what You place before him ... let him walk only where You lead.

Father, release in us the Power that is ours, for the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead dwells in us. Cause us to use this Power to plead our cause before the Throne of Grace, for our leaders and our defenders and our countrymen. Let this Power become vocal as we speak Your Name and Your purpose ... let this Power overwhelm the enemy as we pray for their salvation.

And may we know, O God, to the very depths of our being, that Yours is the Kingdom ... Yours is the Power ... Yours is the Glory, forever, Amen ...

39 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:27 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: ken5050

I hope they are not doing a “Rope A Dope” on us...


40 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:49 AM PDT by cryptotech (Bush is no cowboy - just another goat roper from New England)
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To: Petronski
Remember remember on 4th of November,
Amnesty, treason, and plot.
I see no reason why amnesty, treason
Should ever be forgot...
41 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:57 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: mware

Period. Dot. Bingo.


42 posted on 06/28/2007 6:37:57 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: HapaxLegamenon

Vitter..on the radio..is exocoriating Reid....the gloves are coming off folks..good to see.


43 posted on 06/28/2007 6:38:07 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: KC Burke

I’m going on the record to say we will see victory. The weight of hubris on how this bill has been handled is going to sink under its own weight.

Look for key defections on both sides. (crossing fingers.)


44 posted on 06/28/2007 6:38:10 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: truthkeeper
"He looks sort of grim, imho."

Does he look like he's been swimming?

45 posted on 06/28/2007 6:38:34 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ken5050

Perhaps he’ll sing a sad song in Spanish.


46 posted on 06/28/2007 6:39:00 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: cryptotech

Vitter is also atatckign McConnell..justr said he was a “facilitator” of the bill along wioth Reid, and that Mitch is “workign to shut off debate” WOW..could be a palace revolt a-brewing..


47 posted on 06/28/2007 6:39:14 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
Swimmer up!!! the vote is at 10:50

Bribery not going so well, Senator? You'd better hope you don't run out of any taxpayer paid pieces of silver.

48 posted on 06/28/2007 6:39:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Without doubt, Arlen Specter is Arlen’s Specter’s favorite guy. Except for maybe Kennedy (and now Voinovich, I guess) I can’t think of a more arrogant, power-drunk creep in the Senate.

Unfortunately, this blathering RINO POS is my Senator :-<.


49 posted on 06/28/2007 6:40:08 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: truthkeeper

Do you (does anyone) know if there’s a link I can access to watch this? Is it on c-spam????


50 posted on 06/28/2007 6:40:14 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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