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Ex-Marine, 71, shoots robbers, kills 1
MiamiHerald.com ^ | Jun 28, 2007 | ERIKA BERAS

Posted on 06/28/2007 10:16:32 AM PDT by Boston Blackie

A 71-year-old former Marine opened fire on two robbers at a Subway Sandwich Shop in Plantation late Wednesday night, killing one and critically wounding the other.

According to Plantation police, two masked gunmen came into the shop at 1949 N. Pine Rd. just after 11 p.m.

There was a lone diner -- retired Marine John Lovell, who was finishing his meal.

After robbing the cashier, the two men attempted to shove the ex-Marine into a bathroom and rob him as well.

They got his money.

But then the ex-Marine ........

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; marines; selfdefense; threepeat
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A lot of good news today!
1 posted on 06/28/2007 10:16:36 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
READY ON THE RIGHT...READY ON THE LEFT..READY ON THE FIRING LINE...GENTLEMAN COMMINCE FIRING
2 posted on 06/28/2007 10:18:03 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Boston Blackie
If not for U.S. Marines, I would have completely lost hope in America a long time ago.
3 posted on 06/28/2007 10:18:13 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: Boston Blackie

Why did they shove him into a bathroom? I’m thinking if he hadn’t been packing, he would be dead.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 10:18:15 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Boston Blackie

That’ll teach them to get between a marine and his meal.


5 posted on 06/28/2007 10:18:46 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Boston Blackie

Rack this US Marine


6 posted on 06/28/2007 10:18:46 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: L98Fiero

usually in a restaurant robbery, bathroom is for leaving captives alive, cooler is for killing them.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 10:19:32 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: Boston Blackie

Don’t you just love a story with a happy ending?

Semper Fi


8 posted on 06/28/2007 10:23:09 AM PDT by skimask ("Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated"....George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Boston Blackie

No such thing as a “former” or “ex” Marine.


9 posted on 06/28/2007 10:23:09 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Boston Blackie; freema
Good job, Marine!

Semper Fi!

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10 posted on 06/28/2007 10:24:46 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: rabscuttle385
If not for U.S. Marines, I would have completely lost hope in America a long time ago.

These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots.

11 posted on 06/28/2007 10:25:49 AM PDT by jerri
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To: L98Fiero
Why did they shove him into a bathroom? I’m thinking if he hadn’t been packing, he would be dead.

I was robbed at gunpoint when I was 20. They herded my coworker and me into the bathroom and I thought for sure we were dead. Thankfully it ended well.

12 posted on 06/28/2007 10:28:03 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
No such thing as a “former” or “ex” Marine.

I once received detention for changing the title of an article.

Ex-Marine, 71, shoots robbers, kills 1

13 posted on 06/28/2007 10:29:42 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
1. Marine gets sued.
2. Poor inner city minority youth get compensatory payments.
3. Anti-gun activists rally
4. Democrats use this as an example for more gun laws
5. Where they black? If so, Jesse Jackson will be there tomorrow!
6. The media will talk about the “Brief lives of these poor kids”
7. Michael Moore will make a movie: “Old Marines that kill poor inner city minority youths”. The movie will open at the Havana Film Festivals.
8. Rosie will mock the Marine and blame him for the shooting. She will state that none of this would have happened if he simply had not had a gun!

What did I miss?
14 posted on 06/28/2007 10:29:42 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Well, he got one. That’ll save the taxpayers a few dollars.

Semper Fi

Good job!


15 posted on 06/28/2007 10:30:17 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Red6
What did I miss?

The moonbats have suffered a couple of big defeats today....hopefully they'll be too busy licking their wounds to start another fight they won't win.

16 posted on 06/28/2007 10:34:06 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: fatnotlazy

Well, one of ‘em is alive, with a bullet in the head. That’s gonna cost money.


17 posted on 06/28/2007 10:38:27 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Boston Blackie
‘He was in fear for his life,’’ Rettig said.

Something tells me this old Marine wasn’t “in fear” even though his life was definitely at risk. Just waiting. And he better not be charged! More like rewarded.

18 posted on 06/28/2007 10:39:53 AM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
No such thing as a “former” or “ex” Marine.

Incorrect. Once you leave active duty or the reserves you are a former Marine. No shame in that.

Ritter, Garwood, Lonetree, Dellums, Carville, Murtha, Glenn, Dennehy, Oswald, McFarlane, et al, are all proof that there are indeed ex-Marines.

19 posted on 06/28/2007 10:42:56 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Red6
What did I miss?

"He is not expected to be charged, authorities said.

''He was in fear for his life,'' Rettig said."

If they do sue it'll just make them look like the fools they are.

20 posted on 06/28/2007 10:42:59 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Boston Blackie

BTW...

Who sez there are NO EX-MARINES!
THE HELL THERE AIN’T NO EX-MARINES! I SERVED W/MANY PRE-WWII, WWII, KOREAN WAR, ETC. MARINES WHO PROUDLY REFER TO THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AS “EX-MARINES”!!!!!

BIGMOUTH BOOT JARHEADS CLAIMING OTHERWISE DON’T MEAN ****!

Semper Fidelis
GyG


21 posted on 06/28/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: mad puppy

The only thing he could be charged with .... is partaking in an unfair fight. One 71 yr young marine against two punks.


22 posted on 06/28/2007 10:44:02 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Good. Self-preservation wins. Loser liberals lose again!


23 posted on 06/28/2007 10:45:13 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Red6

“What did I miss?”

Well, he’s Vietnam-era, so they’ll be moaning about gun-toting Yankee imperialists;)


24 posted on 06/28/2007 10:46:18 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: jerri
These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots.

Unfortunately, most criminals are actually stupid enough to try and rob a Marine.

I received security training several years ago when I worked for a small regional bank here in Virginia and Maryland. The bank's security officer told us that almost all criminals are "not the sharpest knives in the drawer."

Sound like Democrats and globalist RINOs, eh?

25 posted on 06/28/2007 10:46:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * wahoo wa! ... U.Va. Engineering '09)
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To: Boston Blackie
Ex-Marine, 71, shoots robbers, kills 1

Is there a better term for a 71 year old inactive member of the USMC who did not necessarily retire?

Ex-Marine is simply wrong.

26 posted on 06/28/2007 10:50:33 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Boston Blackie

Two heads and one center body mass shot- good shooting! Even better would have been to double tap them both. Let’s hope the scumbag in critical condition kicks.


27 posted on 06/28/2007 10:51:54 AM PDT by Kolb
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To: Boston Blackie
But then Lovell pulled his handgun, opened fire, shooting one of the thieves in the head and chest and the other in the head.

Old Sarge must be a bit of a show off... trying for head shots.[/kidding]

Good show...

28 posted on 06/28/2007 10:56:38 AM PDT by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: Boston Blackie
I like his friend's comment, "He'd give you the shirt off his back and he'd be mad if someone tried to take the shirt off your back,".

As a former Marine myself, I think most of us will either be your best friend, or your worst enemy. Your choice.

The scumbags chose the wrong man to f**k with.

29 posted on 06/28/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Is there a better term for a 71 year old inactive member of the USMC who did not necessarily retire? Ex-Marine is simply wrong.

Marine. That's it.

30 posted on 06/28/2007 10:57:49 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Kolb
One of the last WWII Marine aviators still out here, and someone who flew off Guadalcanal with Pappy Boyington (Pop was in VMSB-241), I'd give odds on my dad to 'hit the mark' even at 85.

He was my inspiration to join, and the inspiration to his Marine Recon grandson. Because some things are always worth doing right.

31 posted on 06/28/2007 11:00:39 AM PDT by CT (http://www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Boston Blackie

"That's nice shooting, soldier!"

32 posted on 06/28/2007 11:01:03 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Frank_2001

“Well, one of ‘em is alive, with a bullet in the head. That’s gonna cost money.”

***

Yes, but not as much as two of them would. :)


33 posted on 06/28/2007 11:14:35 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: jazusamo
"If they do sue it'll just make them look like the fools they are."

They can't even sue. Florida's "Make My Day" law bans lawsuits from the perp's "peeps" if the shooting is ruled self-defense.

Also, the surviving perp gets charged with his homies' murder.

Florida does some things right.

34 posted on 06/28/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: Boston Blackie

“He was in fear for his life”.

Sure he was, he was thinking, as soon as I get a chance I am going to kill these two SOB’s. And good on him for having clear thoughts.


35 posted on 06/28/2007 11:18:40 AM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: Boston Blackie
The Preacher's Son

One day, while the boy was away at school, his father decided to try an experiment. He went into the boy's room and placed on his study table four objects: a Bible, a silver dollar,a bottle of whisky and a Playboy magazine.

"I'll just hide behind the door," the old preacher said to himself, "and when he comes home from school this afternoon, I'll see which object he picks up."

"If it's the Bible, he's going to be a preacher like me, and what a blessing that would be!"

"If he picks up the dollar, he's going to be a businessman, and that would be OK, but if picks up the bottle, he's going to be a no-good drunkard, and, Lord, what a shame that would be."

"And worst of all, if he picks up that magazine he's gonna be a skirt-chasin' bum."

The old man waited anxiously, and soon heard his son's footsteps as he entered the house whistling and headed for his room.

The boy tossed his books on the bed, and as he turned to leave the room he spotted the objects on the table. With curiosity in his eye, he walked over to inspect them. Finally, he picked up the Bible and placed it under his arm.

He picked up the silver dollar and dropped it into his pocket.

He uncorked the bottle and took a big drink while he admired this month's Centerfold.

"Lord have mercy," the old preacher whispered, "He's gonna be a MARINE!"

36 posted on 06/28/2007 11:21:22 AM PDT by Sender (Success in warfare is gained by carefully accommodating ourselves to the enemy's purpose.)
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To: 10mm

Thanks for that, it’s good to hear.


37 posted on 06/28/2007 11:23:06 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
No such thing as a “former” or “ex” Marine.

I win! When I read the headline, I bet that it 'ex-marine' error would be corrected within the first ten posts. Freepers did not disappoint.
38 posted on 06/28/2007 11:23:11 AM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Boston Blackie
Kind of a sad story when you read it. The two perps got what they had coming, but it does not sound like they were typical thugs. One had a job in data entry, or so says his next of kin. I would have to guess crack cocaine comes into the equation somewhere.

Anyway, nice shooting, Marine.

39 posted on 06/28/2007 11:27:42 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Boston Blackie
"White said Lovell worked as a pilot for the Marines, flying former Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson."

Marine One pilot??
40 posted on 06/28/2007 11:32:22 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Boston Blackie

I can hear the robbers now,....”this job is driving me to me grave!”


41 posted on 06/28/2007 11:34:49 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Red6
Your numbers 1 &2...will NOT get sued...FL law specifically protects him from civil damages for turning criminal melons into bird houses when justifiably using deadly force.

the "stand your ground law"...or, as some affectionately refer to it, the..."Make My Day" law.

i prefer the latter

...just saying...

42 posted on 06/28/2007 11:35:47 AM PDT by woollyone (NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF ...Think you can't quit? Yes you can! ... read whyquit.com)
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To: gunnyg
I love Marines.....the actions of this man just proves “Once a Marine always a Marine”....no matter the age that “OORAH” attitude sticks with you the rest of your life.

God Bless the USMC

Semper Fi

43 posted on 06/28/2007 11:36:32 AM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Boston Blackie

I’ll betcha anything he was having SOS, the meal that makes Marines fearless.


44 posted on 06/28/2007 11:40:21 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Sender

Thanks for the laugh.


45 posted on 06/28/2007 11:48:49 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: Kimmers

Ah, yes...OohRah...but that’s yet another story—along with ega now replacing the Globe and Anchor of old; Tun Tavern and no mention of the Conestoga Wagon, the (so-called) bloodstripe in reference to Chapultapec, on and on the myths and legends go...


46 posted on 06/28/2007 11:54:29 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: gunnyg
As of 7/2/07 my boy will be done with TBS in Quantico and then it will be a matter of time and an open slot for him to get into flight.....

Semper Fi you Devil Dog

47 posted on 06/28/2007 12:01:09 PM PDT by Kimmers (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Frank_2001

VIETNAM ERA!!!!???? Well that expalins it. Iraq is causing him to have PTSD flashbacks! It’s all Bush’s fault! :)


48 posted on 06/28/2007 12:50:44 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Boston Blackie
no better friend

no worse enemy....

I bet he qualified "expert".

49 posted on 06/28/2007 1:42:17 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Joan Kerrey
holy cr#p....You remember sh#t on a shingle....bwahahahahahahahahaha...

cover it with pepper and tobasco sauce...

that will get you through to lunch for sure!!!

thanks for the memory...

50 posted on 06/28/2007 1:45:47 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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