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Flight Nurse? Why Not?
6/28/07 | 60Gunner

Posted on 06/28/2007 10:27:38 PM PDT by 60Gunner

My dad flew in the Navy in attack jets. He flew multiple tours over Vietnam, was shot down once (made it out okay) and crashed off the carrier once (made it out that time, too). He retired with a chestful of medals, many of which he won multiple times. He was a scrappy, 5'8" wiry terrier of a guy, a Golden Gloves bantamweight boxer in his youth. He left home when he was 16 and lied about his age to get into the Navy. He became a nurse after retiring from the Navy, specializing in Geriatrics throughout his career. He was a warrior and he was a minister of mercy. I knew almost nothing about his heroics, trials, ordeals, defeats and triumphs until after his death from cancer in 2001, when I "inherited" his service records and papers.

He is more of a hero now to me than he was in life. And he was my number one hero in life.

Dad always missed flying. He spoke often of his love for it: the freedom, the noise, the speed, the smell of jet exhaust, the thrill of the catapult shot, the sense of duty and honor he carried with him to the grave. Even after the Navy forced him out of the cockpit, he still loved flight.

I caught the bug myself. I wanted to be a Naval Aviator... but not enough to work hard in school. The closest I got to slipping the surly bonds of earth was when I slipped the surly bonds of a C-130 as I, along with 60-odd other paratroopers, were unceremoniously shat out of the "Herky Bird's" tail end. Bird droppings, indeed.

I often flew with a friend in his private plane. The moment we broke ground, he'd tap me on the knee and say, "You got 'er." I flew the small single engine plane around the Puget Sound, banking along the clouds, navigating by way of familiar landmarks and the "concrete compass" (the Interstate highway) below us. As the sun slid toward the horizon and the shadows grew long, we would wing our way home. When we slid into the final leg, my friend would say, "I got 'er" and land us safely.

I never got a chance to get my own pilot's license. I still want to, but it isn't a priority right now, and I haven't got the time.

But when I became a nurse, the thought crossed my mind: Why not become a flight nurse? I shelved the idea, of course.

But I have a friend who, it turns out, trains flight nurses for the local life flight organization. We ended up talking about flight nursing and I mentioned my dream of flight, but ended by saying that I doubted if I could ever be one at this stage in my life.

My friend laughed, "Why the hell NOT!?"

"I'm forty-two!" I replied rather defensively. "I have a wife and kids. I don't have time to go for that now."

"Crap. Nonsense," my friend retorted. How old do you think the average Life Flight nurse is?"

"I dunno," I said, preparing myself for an answer that would make me look like a fool.

"Late thirties to mid-fifties- even older, if you are in good shape."

"Really?" I asked, not daring to hope.

"Really. Go for it!" He said.

Well, I talked to my wife about it tonight. She snorted, "Why not!? You always wanted to fly, didn't you?" I guess that means she has given me her blessing.

I wonder if I'll get my own helmet? Gee, that'd be cool!


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1 posted on 06/28/2007 10:27:40 PM PDT by 60Gunner
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To: MaryFromMichigan; SunnyUsa; bad company; RobFromGa; doodlelady; Slings and Arrows; NonValueAdded; ..

ER Nursing stories follow-that-dream ping!!!


2 posted on 06/28/2007 10:29:14 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: 60Gunner

Get another designation other than “nurse”. Your buddies will never let you live it now.


3 posted on 06/28/2007 10:34:36 PM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: 60Gunner

Go for it.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 10:37:30 PM PDT by pops88
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To: 60Gunner

Great piece, go for it and good luck!


5 posted on 06/28/2007 10:40:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: 60Gunner
listen....I in the last 2 yrs have oriented/mentored two brand new nurses....both said it was their "dream" and one said she knew she only had so much window of opportunity....BOTH WERE OLDER THAN ME AND I AM 53...

so if some people can start nursing at that age, why shouldn't you go for flight nursing.....good luck..

6 posted on 06/28/2007 10:41:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: 60Gunner

For heaven’s sake, go for it.


7 posted on 06/28/2007 10:48:56 PM PDT by vandy
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To: 60Gunner
GO FOR IT!
8 posted on 06/28/2007 10:51:46 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Gaza: Your one-stop schadenfreude entertainment center.)
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To: 60Gunner
The sharpest regret often comes from opportunities never dared.

So take the chance, what do you have to lose?

9 posted on 06/28/2007 10:59:03 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: 60Gunner

Go for it, and Godspeed! :-)


10 posted on 06/28/2007 11:04:21 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: 60Gunner
A friend of mine is an ER nurse on call with an air ambulance company. Most of the work was medivac from some third-world country, rather than a "hot" emergency. That usually gave her 24 hours to adjust her work schedule, and use some vacation or comp time for the flight.

Except for the time when they were stuck in India for five days until the company could scrape up the $10K bribe needed before they were allowed to depart.

11 posted on 06/28/2007 11:36:40 PM PDT by 300winmag (Life is hard! It is even harder when you are stupid!)
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To: 60Gunner

Get up and get out there and on your way. It’s never too late.


12 posted on 06/29/2007 12:09:33 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: 60Gunner
Press on, Pard!! Heck, give it a shot, the worst that can happen is you are where you started.
13 posted on 06/29/2007 2:37:30 AM PDT by Bender
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To: 60Gunner

I remember my dad taking me out to the airport when I was, maybe 4 or 5. He would point out Taylorcrafts, Pipers, maybe even a Beechcraft Bonanza on a small town dirt runway. I shared my dad’s love for aviation and vowed someday I would learn to fly.

My friends had told me I would never get a Pilot’s License. I wouldn’t be able to pass the required physical. I had one good eye (the other is blind) with glasses. I am hard of hearing and required hearing aids to even compete with “normal people”!

It was when I was 33 and financially able when I dared to try. I petitioned the FAA for permission to take flight lessons. Got it and flew until I soloed (1968). I bought a Cessna 150 and had a blast! I never had an accident and enjoyed many hours of flight between Illinois and Nebraska. Also in Texas and around.

Got involved in building aircraft. Even rebuilt the engine in my 150. Helped a friend build a VariEze and flew in it! Being a member in the local EAA (Experimental Aircraft Association) helped maintain an interest in all facets of aviation and met many other pilots.

During all that time I married and had kids. I worked as an engineer until retirement.

Now I have 8 grandkids and at the age of 71, I reckon I have time to take some of them out to the airport and point out “There’s a Piper. Oh, look at the Bonanza!”

I wouldn’t mind being an air transport pilot for an airline but I couldn’t pass the physical but I had a blast with my little airplane.

Gunner, what’s holding you up?

Go for it! You won’t get any younger!


14 posted on 06/29/2007 3:08:50 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: 60Gunner

GO for it!!!

Make it and I will chip in a Fiver for your very own helmet:-)

Regards and Good Luck

alfa6 ;>}


15 posted on 06/29/2007 3:09:15 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: 60Gunner
Your friend is right -- it's NEVER too late. You limit yourself only by your mindset and attitude.

After 25 years in IT, at age 50 I returned to school for an AAS in Respiratory Therapy. Graduated last month (age 52) Magnum cum Laude, passed the national boards this month.

Yep, it can be done.

16 posted on 06/29/2007 5:06:20 AM PDT by banjo joe (Work the angles. Show all work.)
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To: 60Gunner

Thanks for adding me to your list. I’m 50 years old and never graduated from college, but this year I did what I had been thinking about doing for several years - I’m going back to school & working on a degree in nursing. I love it!

I wish I had done it when I first started thinking about it - I would be a nurse already - but it’s never too late! I say go for it - life’s too short to not live it to the fullest every chance you get.


17 posted on 06/29/2007 5:08:03 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: 60Gunner

Thanks. You are a good writer.


18 posted on 06/29/2007 5:25:30 AM PDT by Tribune7 (More Americans die each day than watch Chris Matthews)
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To: 60Gunner

Go for it


19 posted on 06/29/2007 5:28:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: 60Gunner
How exciting!!!

You already know how to handle emergency situations...now you just will do it in the AIR, on a noisey helicopter/plane....you will continue to save lives and make a difference!

GOOD LUCK...keep us posted! :)

20 posted on 06/29/2007 5:44:21 AM PDT by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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To: 60Gunner
C'mon now, this means you gotta have a fkight name also.

Something like...................Gunner!

21 posted on 06/29/2007 6:11:32 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: 60Gunner
God bless you for doing this.

Flight nurses saved my life in 1995. I never "met" them, as I was out cold and hurt badly. It was their work that kept me alive.

You are brave to start this new adventure. I pray for your success.

22 posted on 06/29/2007 6:29:50 AM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: 60Gunner

Awesome, I’ll be thrilled to read of your adventures continuing in the air!

(And kudos to your wife as well for supporting your dream.)


23 posted on 06/29/2007 6:52:26 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: 60Gunner
Go confidently in the direction of your dreams! Live the life you've imagined. As you simplify your life, the laws of the universe will be simpler.- Thoreau, Henry David

If you can imagine it you can create it. If you can dream it, you can become it.- Ward, William Arthur

Within our dreams and aspirations we find our opportunities. - Ebaugh, Sue

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.- Roosevelt, Eleanor

You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" - George Bernard Shaw


24 posted on 06/29/2007 6:57:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Global Warming is Leftist Theology - Why is it Being Taught in School?)
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To: 60Gunner

It’s nice to see your Dad’s heroic spirit is alive and well in his son. We need more men like you. Good luck, 60Gunner!


25 posted on 06/29/2007 6:57:43 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: 60Gunner

We transport via air ambulance almost once a week. My station is far enough out of the hospital district that bad traffic and the need for a level 1 trauma center often demand it.

The flight nurses often tell us its interesting to finally see the actual cause of the trauma instead of just hearing a discription of what happens.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 7:04:12 AM PDT by DainBramage
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Killborn, I understand what you mean. But when my dad went through nursing school I caught six kinds of hell from kids (and even teachers) at school ("What does your mommy do, sissy? Does she drive a truck?").

It was embarrassing. It was infuriating. I got sent home early a lot for knocking the teeth out of my classmates' mouths and for telling my male teachers that my dad was three times the man that they were. I told the female teachers that they were just jealous that my dad looked better in white than they did. You see how it goes...

Besides, the first nurses were men, and nursing was strictly a male profession until that man-hating, socialist, spiteful old feminist beeyotch-infested American Nurses Association got a toehold. Nursing was ruined after that.

27 posted on 06/29/2007 7:15:13 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: 60Gunner
I also add my voice of encouragement to your dream. Go for it!!! Your age has little to do with what you can accomplish.

Mr G climbed Grand Teton on his 54th birthday with his 61 year old brother and our 28 year old son. This year, at age 58, he did a scientific exploration (with his now 65 year old brother leading it) in a little used entrance to Mammoth cave. It was a very difficult 14 hour trek. They will probably go back in the fall.

I am beginning my own business at age 55. You are never too old to do what you love.

28 posted on 06/29/2007 7:45:02 AM PDT by Grammy ("Ms Pelosi is a very difficult person to embarrass." Fred Thompson, 4/11/07)
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To: 60Gunner

Good job holding your ground. “Three times the man they were” and “Looked better in white than they did” are some classic lines. :)

Interesting, I never knew that nursing was a primarily male profession. The things you learn here.


29 posted on 06/29/2007 8:55:33 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: 60Gunner

Thanks, 60. Very inspiring.


30 posted on 06/29/2007 3:38:00 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: 60Gunner
Let me try to understand this.

You ARE an ER Nurse already, but you want to be a Flight nurse? Cool!!

You have your wife's blessing, so I hope you realize your dreams.

sw

31 posted on 06/29/2007 3:50:15 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Killborn
Yep. 'Tis true. It may also interest you to know that the first nursing school was opened in India a couple hundred years BC, and that its only entrants were men.

"Ladies of the Lamp," indeed. Hmph.

32 posted on 06/29/2007 7:14:40 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: 60Gunner

Was it because of Florence Nightingale that this whole women nurses trend began?


33 posted on 06/29/2007 7:32:19 PM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: Killborn

Yep. Good old man-hating Flo. She said, “There is no place in nursing for men.” Then she set about spreading her feminist gospel. Of course, it caught on in America in the early 20th century, about the time the Suffrage movement was gaining momentum. Timing is everything, eh?

You can thank the American Nurses Association for forcing men out of nursing in America- and for the nursing shortage we face today.


34 posted on 06/29/2007 8:52:23 PM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: 60Gunner

Follow the dream!
By the way, I just realized for the first time that you are in WA, too. For all I know, I’ve been in your hospital!


35 posted on 06/29/2007 10:50:53 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: 60Gunner

Whoa

I thought the air time you picked up in a M973 / BV206 already had you air qualed.

Then again, the Bell 222 is a pretty sweet bird (used in UT) or the EC 135 is real swank....

Looking forward to some new “There I was” stories - just the thing for a Frday night.


36 posted on 06/29/2007 11:03:32 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: 60Gunner

Hmm, didn’t know that about her. What do you think about those rumors about her being a lesbian?


37 posted on 06/30/2007 12:01:06 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: conservative cat
You may have been. I certainly hope that if you were, you received the best possible care.

On the same note, I hope never to meet you in my place of business.

38 posted on 06/30/2007 1:26:30 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: ASOC

Well, it’s going to take awhile to get me there. I have to get some ICU experience first. I can do that by working per diem in the Icu while staying in the ER. It’ll take a couple of years before I can submit an application that will be taken seriously. But at least I know where to start.


39 posted on 06/30/2007 1:28:11 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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I don’t know about Nightingale’s being a lesbian. I do know that she was a vehement man-hater. Treated men like cockroaches.


40 posted on 06/30/2007 1:29:17 AM PDT by 60Gunner (ER Nursing: You watch it... We live it!)
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To: 60Gunner

B/3/325, and I was a 60 gunner. ;)


41 posted on 06/30/2007 10:33:48 AM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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60, I really don't want to discourage you, But consider the fact that medivacs and air ambulance services fly when the HAVE to, not when they want to. How do you balance a flight safety/weather decision on top of a rapidly deteriorating patient?

From the window here in my Alaskan office, I can see a mountain named after a young paramedic I trained, killed in a helicopter medivac accident some years ago. I think back over the 30 years I've been involved in EMS here and there are just too many good friends and colleagues lost in similar circumstances. National statistics show that over half of the LOD deaths among EMS personnel occur during air operations.

If you do this please choose your employer well. Find an outfit that has a clean safety record.

42 posted on 06/30/2007 11:17:32 AM PDT by Species8472 (We will never Forget !)
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To: 60Gunner

If anyone could take this on, you can! Go for it!


43 posted on 06/30/2007 11:18:56 AM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: 60Gunner

Go for it.

Best wishes.


44 posted on 06/30/2007 11:23:38 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tagline space for rent. Enquire within.)
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>>>How do you balance a flight safety/weather decision on top of a rapidly deteriorating patient?<<<

From what I’ve observed at my local hospital, it’s pilot’s discretion - if weather conditions are bad, they stay on the ground - I can’t see that being different anywhere else.


45 posted on 06/30/2007 11:29:30 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Tagline space for rent. Enquire within.)
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To: 60Gunner
The first flight book I ever bought began with a chapter on “meteorology.”

I decided that flying was not for me because after all who the heck wants to study barometric pressures, and all that other dry junk?

Well now, many years later, I am considered to be somewhat proficient in my knowledge of pressures and altitude changes as well as certain other matters.

Respiratory Therapy demands things that one might not ordinarily realize at first.

I’ll be talking to some familiar folks soon about my lifelong ambition to pilot aircraft. After all...How hard can it be?

Go for it...and by the way...I believe that I am a bit older than you are.

46 posted on 06/30/2007 11:34:53 AM PDT by Radix (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race)
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To: Keith in Iowa
That’s the “party Line” that any medivac service will give you. Sadly, the reality here in Alaska is far different. Far too many times I've seen pilots push the limits.
47 posted on 06/30/2007 11:36:03 AM PDT by Species8472 (We will never Forget !)
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To: 60Gunner
I wonder if I'll get my own helmet?

Don't wonder, insist on it.

Your better half has given you the green light. Go for it!

In the worst case, if you don't like it, or if it does not work out, you can go back to the ER and tell them (and us) some mighty fine stories of what happened.

48 posted on 06/30/2007 11:37:28 AM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration. NO support for Bush.)
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To: 60Gunner
You may have been. I certainly hope that if you were, you received the best possible care.

The nursing care has always been good...the physician's care has been good sometimes.

49 posted on 06/30/2007 11:46:14 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: 60Gunner

Go for it....


50 posted on 06/30/2007 1:16:40 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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