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Dubya's End
New York Post ^ | June 29, 2007 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 06/29/2007 4:14:31 AM PDT by Truth29

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To: Earthdweller
Yes you did..you said the fence is funded.

No, I did not. I said a fence twice the length in the recent bill was signed into law by Bush. YOU said there was 1.2 billion in funding - enough to build almost 200 miles if only half is used.

You have no facts and you have no moral ground to stand on. Go away dirtboy. You sold us down the river.

You are the worst kind of liar - you twist my own words and ignore you own "evidence" that guts your own position.

421 posted on 06/30/2007 9:44:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Earthdweller
you said the fence is funded.

Show where I said that. Put up or shut up.

However, by YOUR OWN POSTS, there is enough money allocated for over 170 miles of fence. Bush has built 11.

422 posted on 06/30/2007 9:46:30 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Truth29
I voted for putz W three times. Once for governer, twice for president.

His treason in this matter of the invasion from mexico has made me wish I never voted for him at all.

He is a traitor and he can whistle for support from now on. I won't answer.

423 posted on 06/30/2007 9:48:55 AM PDT by LibKill (Bush betrayed conservatives on Immigration.)
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To: Earthdweller; dirtboy
according to the Appropriations Committee yesterday [June 13, 2007], there's $864 million cash on hand in the Department of Homeland Security right now for building the border fence. Now, in seven months since the president signed this bill -- that's October 26 -- they've only built, according to the schedule we got yesterday, 13 miles
424 posted on 06/30/2007 9:52:24 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Earthdweller
according to the Appropriations Committee yesterday [June 13, 2007], there's $864 million cash on hand in the Department of Homeland Security right now for building the border fence. Now, in seven months since the president signed this bill -- that's October 26 -- they've only built, according to the schedule we got yesterday, 13 miles

Bush has built less than five percent of the amount of fencing FUNDED to date. Yet somehow allocating more money is going to get more fence built? You're a pathetic joke, earthdweller - and a liar.

425 posted on 06/30/2007 9:54:12 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: dirtboy; Earthdweller
Bush has built less than five percent of the amount of fencing FUNDED to date. Yet somehow allocating more money is going to get more fence built? You're a pathetic joke, earthdweller - and a liar.

bttt!

426 posted on 06/30/2007 9:57:54 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: backhoe

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427 posted on 06/30/2007 9:58:19 AM PDT by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; learn of Him and obey His commands.)
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To: dirtboy; Earthdweller
from the same article:

HUNTER: You may be understanding now why the fence hasn't been built yet. You now have the White House basically saying, "We'll make a deal with you. If you pass the amnesty bill, we'll actually put enough money up against border enforcement that we can complete the fence."

The president's already signed the bill that mandates 854 miles of border fence. We've got almost $1 billion, cash on hand, right now to build that fence and they've only built a paltry 13 miles in seven months. Now, you've got individual ranchers in this country who have built more fence than the entire government of the United States of America.

HUNTER: So it shows that the administration is not interested in expeditious construction of that fence. They should be interested in expeditious construction of thefence.


428 posted on 06/30/2007 10:00:45 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, now we have the most flavorless rockhard tomatoes in history. Automation is not the answer.

More likely the farms will move where the labor is cheaper after you bankrupt the farmers. Course that’s not your problem, you don’t have to worry about bankrupting thousands of evil farmers.

You have your cushy little job and heck with anyone else. Course now there will never be immigration reform or wall and the market can work.

Pray for W and Our Troops


429 posted on 06/30/2007 10:23:47 AM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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To: bray
More likely the farms will move where the labor is cheaper after you bankrupt the farmers

Nah, you have to grow food where farmland is good and productive.

But any business with a business model predicated on illegal labor should be looking at ways to move away from that model. Or maybe we should legalize insider trading as well - so what if it's illegal? It makes money.

430 posted on 06/30/2007 10:53:33 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Countyline
Your underbelly of the beast material is awesome and staggering. I imagine you bring it out often for posting for the many new posters that come on board. Information is vital and you have amassed a overwhelming amount. Thank you for all the time and effort it required. A remarkable resource. It is bound to open the eyes of most thinking persons.

I genuinely appreciate your encouraging words- it started as "stories the media would rather not talk about," and morphed into "all the stuff I find on the web you ought to be thinking about."

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431 posted on 06/30/2007 11:09:54 AM PDT by backhoe ("It's so Easy to spend somebody else's Money..."[ My Dad. circa 1958 ])
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To: bray

You’re obviously too young to remember a mere twenty years ago most of the jobs currently being done by illegal aliens were done by Americans, and their employers were profitable.

I’ll admit that it may be legitimate to allow immigrant labor for migratory farm work, but that’s it.

But for construction, meat-packing, hotel and restaurant work, anything where the worker generally goes to work in the same location every day, there’s plenty of Americans willing to do those jobs for not a whole lot more money, and a lot less indirect social costs.


432 posted on 06/30/2007 11:28:58 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: romanesq

It was not Ras. that had the 52% poll which said that they would not vote for Hil. This poll has been quoted for the last week by Rush, Sean and Dennis Miller. My bad that I cannot remember the name of the poll. This was all likely voters not voting under any circumstance for her.


433 posted on 07/02/2007 4:51:37 PM PDT by phillyfanatic ( w)
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To: KenmcG414
Let’s see: Appoints Colin Powell as Secy. of State, signs McCain-Feingold, nominates Harriet Miers for SCJ, tries to sell out country to immigration-scam, throws Donald Rumsfeld under the bus...

Hey! Lay off Harriet... She's simply fab!

434 posted on 07/02/2007 7:01:46 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Emperor has no clothes.)
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To: dirtboy
Funny, but people will keep eating even if the cost of picking lettuce and apples goes up.

Notice the price of corn lately... or anything made from it or fed by it? Yet, our brilliant leader thinks it's the answer to the energy crisis.

I'm on my way to the refrigerator now to see what else I can run my car on.

435 posted on 07/02/2007 7:08:34 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Emperor has no clothes.)
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To: phillyfanatic

Okay, no big deal this early and 47-52% is not statistically significant at this time. But you point is made.


436 posted on 07/02/2007 8:05:08 PM PDT by romanesq
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