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Scientists believe cats 'sort of domesticated themselves'
SignOnSanDiego.com ^ | June 29, 2007 | THE WASHINGTON POST

Posted on 06/29/2007 8:02:15 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

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Interesting report. Not all that surprising though.

I like cats just fine...but I am more of a dog person.

1 posted on 06/29/2007 8:02:17 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: Lady Jag; nicmarlo

WE know this already.


2 posted on 06/29/2007 8:03:37 AM PDT by Darksheare (The Windows Error dialog box. Windows' way of saying, "Look at ME!")
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To: DogByte6RER

Cats are domesticated? Mine would disagree. From his point of view, I kind of domesticated myself.


3 posted on 06/29/2007 8:04:57 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: DogByte6RER

Dogs have masters, cats have staff!


4 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:06 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: DogByte6RER; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...

5 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:10 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Gaza: Your one-stop schadenfreude entertainment center.)
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To: Darksheare
Your hunch is correct. Your cat decided to live with you, not the other way around.

What hunch? My 2, soon to be 3, cats tell me this on a daily basis...I have no choice in the matter. Cats are little people in furry coats

6 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:39 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: DogByte6RER

Get a cat that acts like a dog. Ours will fetch.


7 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:52 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Darksheare
No. Cats domesticated us.
8 posted on 06/29/2007 8:05:55 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen, SnowFlake, and Eeevil Doer.)
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To: HaveHadEnough

My father’s cat sees the family as funny looking, if defective, cats.
He wonders and yells about why we don’t go hunt morsels with him.
He seriously doesn’t understand that we cannot fit through the thicket across the street as stealthily as he.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 8:06:52 AM PDT by Darksheare (The Windows Error dialog box. Windows' way of saying, "Look at ME!")
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To: DogByte6RER

Cat..... the other white meat....


10 posted on 06/29/2007 8:07:59 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: DogByte6RER

A burglar has entered your home. Your dog goes wild!!!!Disturbed by the dog’s barking, your cat takes a deep breath and goes back to sleep. I swear...cat’s have Ritalin etched into their DNA.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 8:08:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: billbears

My 24 pound monster thinks I am here to serve her.
Her counterpart with my missus sees us as being here to save him from the floating invisible threat that chases him.


12 posted on 06/29/2007 8:10:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (The Windows Error dialog box. Windows' way of saying, "Look at ME!")
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To: HaveHadEnough
Cats are independent. Dogs are more socially dependent.

Like sheep or any other animals they have been domesticated by kindness.

13 posted on 06/29/2007 8:10:17 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: DogByte6RER

How can they be returned to the wild?

I’m VERRRRRY allergic to cats and have had to pass on some very promissing relationships because of their presence.

When you register a “6” on a “0 - 5” scale, the doc’s won’t give you shots, and I’m not about to walk around all doped up, on account of a cat.


14 posted on 06/29/2007 8:10:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Cats are not domesticated, any more than people are. They choose to live with us for their own reasons - friendship, food, warmth, whatever. If they do not find what they are looking for, they leave. Dogs and other domesticated animals will not.

I have met some *big* cats (panther, leopard) that were friendly to humans. I have met some small feral cats that wanted to eat my head. *All* the species of cats are smart for their size and can and will decide what they want to do all on their own.


15 posted on 06/29/2007 8:10:38 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Felis Sylvestris

16 posted on 06/29/2007 8:11:14 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

My Bengal and Orange Tabby both fetch a ball and drop it in your hand or at your feet.


17 posted on 06/29/2007 8:11:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Darksheare

True. My cat would like me to run up the backs of armchairs with him, and go out hunting lizards in company.

He goes to the edge of the woods and meows and looks back at me. So we go for walks. Then he darts up a tree and wants me to come up there with him.

I am not as domesticated as he thinks. In fact I am a bit feral still.


18 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:01 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
There’s nothing so predictable than a man without originality.
19 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:05 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dinasour

I guess it depends on the definition and context of ‘domesticate’.
My father’s cat isn’t truly ‘domesticated’, but he’s domesticated in as much as he likes his electric lights, running water, and climate control.
But he’s still a feral cat that decided that humans were to be his ‘clan.’
Weird, these furry critters.


20 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (The Windows Error dialog box. Windows' way of saying, "Look at ME!")
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To: Sacajaweau

You’ve never seen “It Takes A Thief” on the Discovery Channel, have you?

Also, I’ve heard of a housecat that took down an invading burglar. From the story and if I recall correctly, the cat tripped him, swarmed his head, ripped out the guy’s jugular, and then peed on his face. Burglar died, of course.


21 posted on 06/29/2007 8:13:48 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: DogByte6RER
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22 posted on 06/29/2007 8:14:30 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: squarebarb

NiMH cat does that.
He also brings home live prey to teach us how to hunt.


23 posted on 06/29/2007 8:14:32 AM PDT by Darksheare (The Windows Error dialog box. Windows' way of saying, "Look at ME!")
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To: Spktyr

sure wish mine would leave.. bought for the daughters, now stuck with them. they are now 17 and 15.

I’ve been trying to arrrange a “leaving” for six months now.. and then I look at them, and they get that Bugs Bunny wide eyed and teary look..


24 posted on 06/29/2007 8:14:40 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: MeanWestTexan
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25 posted on 06/29/2007 8:15:32 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Dogs rule.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 8:16:10 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Oh yeah...

Here is the news link:

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/03/20/news/californian/31906192121.txt


27 posted on 06/29/2007 8:16:17 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: nmh

We have what we believe to be a Bengal mix and she loves to play with balls—the toy kind. I think she would be capable of playing fetch if she weren’t so ornery. And we also have an orange tabby. We got both cats last year when they were kittens and found in back yards. I’ve just fallen in love with this Bengal (well, and the tabby too). We got ours for free and we took her to give her a home, but now I want another one. I’ve been looking them up on the internet and they cost hundreds of dollars. Yikes!


28 posted on 06/29/2007 8:16:27 AM PDT by twigs
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To: DogByte6RER

29 posted on 06/29/2007 8:16:32 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: MeanWestTexan
Get a cat that acts like a dog. Ours will fetch.

I have 2 cats that LOVE to play fetch. They are worse than dogs - they never tire of it. I do. As long as I throw something, they will lunge after it, pick it up in their mouth and bring it back to me and shove it in my hand.

I once tried a fetch marathon to see how long before they lost interest.

They didn't - I wore out long before they did.

30 posted on 06/29/2007 8:17:12 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Dogs have masters, cats have staff!

Oh my goodness that's hilarious. I love that line!

Our cat has us in our chose roles: if I get up first she doesn't make any motions to bother me about getting fed. But as soon as my wife makes an appearance, the cat starts nagging her to make haste on the breakfast. Even if it's hours later.

31 posted on 06/29/2007 8:17:43 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: DogByte6RER

I’d just love to read this but my cats are calling and they just hate it when I am not timely.


32 posted on 06/29/2007 8:18:36 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Tokra

So, your cat taught you how to throw. Pretty smart cat!!


34 posted on 06/29/2007 8:19:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: DogByte6RER

if you had a kitten and a puppy from birth,both born the same week and both raised by you, now avance to five years from now and late at night, a thief enters your home with certain ill intent.

The dog will fight to the death to defend you and the cat will sneak out an opening in the house with the video cam and go to an outside window,film the whole thing,sell it to CNN and retire.

sounds like a Paris Hilton documentaty huh


35 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:17 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Darksheare

When I get home in the evening, my cats go to ‘wet food’ bowl and meow until food is placed in their bowl. Immediately after, they go to the back door and meow until the door is opened for them to go sit on the porch in the heat. When it’s finally dark, they come in, the door is closed and I don’t see them until it’s bedtime and they jump on the bed to get a good night nudge. I’m telling you, the only reason I think I’m alive (and still living in the house) is that I haven’t strayed from the rules.


36 posted on 06/29/2007 8:20:27 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

heh... true. Of course I happen to be deathly allergic to cats. That means hives, constriction of lungs, inability to breath, anaphylactic shock after 2 hours of exposure without heavy doses of meds that make me drowsy/stupid. Sooooo... I naturally take out my frustration on the things that could kill me if I’m not careful. Imagine not being able to go to a friends house because they have cats? Yeah its kinda like that. So if I lack imagination at least I don’t kill the little furballs out of hand on general principle.


37 posted on 06/29/2007 8:21:30 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: MeanWestTexan
Get a cat that acts like a dog. Ours will fetch.

Heh. My sibling-American had a cat growing up that I intentionally treated like a dog. Little tiny cat that I'd wrestle with and play paw-pat with. The thing would beat up much larger cats, and I got such fast hand-speed that I could reliably out-strike it (the claws made me learn fast). This cat knew its name, would come when called, and would fetch too.

38 posted on 06/29/2007 8:22:37 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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All domestic cats are descended from the species Felis sylvestris (“cat of the woods”)

Hmm, so that's why Warner Brothers named their cartoon cat 'Sylvester".

In the last two months, I have attempted to study the behavior of my lady's two cats, who have tolerated my moving in. The black one is much like the stupid but evil cat in the "Get Fuzzy" cartoon. I've tried somewhat successfully to keep him from getting underfoot when I'm in the kitchen. Not every trip to that room is for the purpose of feeding him.

The white one is stupid in a 'stoned' sort of way. Think of 'Crush', the sea turtle in the "Finding Nemo" movie, and you'll know what I'm talking about. I do a California surfer dude voice that sounds like the character, to put words in his mouth, as he's reacting to the world in his clueless way, and it makes my lady laugh out loud!

39 posted on 06/29/2007 8:25:34 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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40 posted on 06/29/2007 8:26:28 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“Get a cat that acts like a dog. Ours will fetch.”

Wow. We have one (Tommy) that practically raised our two Dachshunds. All three of them will roll around and wrestle in the yard.


41 posted on 06/29/2007 8:26:51 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Oddly, that cat looks a lot like our cat.

She tolerates being carried around by a sucession of toddlers, and seldom scratches them (even when they deserve it), so she’s OK.

She is not quite the born killer of our previous cat, though. That one would bring me (not Mrs. MWT or the clan) daily offerings of mice and birds.

I live in an all-but-me female household, and we’ve noticed the cats always treat me as the alpha-male of the pride. It’s pretty funny, if annoying, to always have a cat underfoot and/or in-lap.


42 posted on 06/29/2007 8:28:18 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: DogByte6RER

Now I know why my cat just stares at me at times with that “hey stoopid, I can leave anytime I want but I stay here because I want you to be blessed with my presence” look on her face.


44 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:15 AM PDT by Bruinator
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth

..... the other white meat....

Hmmm, that’s what a tiger or lion might think as they were about to tear you to shreds before devouring you.


45 posted on 06/29/2007 8:29:59 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Squirrels, rats, voles, shrews, mice, spiders, who knows what species of mold have chosen to live with us. Why not cats.


46 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
At least you can comfort yourself in being 13 posts faster, if no more creative, than Centurion 2000.
47 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:48 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DogByte6RER

I thought cats sort of domesticated people...


48 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:48 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

The Egyptians thought the cats were gods.
The cats agreed.

Cats basically tolerate humans. If the average cat was twice as big as it is, and the average cat owner was only half as big as he is, the owner wouldn’t be an owner.

He/she would be lunch.

Anybody who has watched even the mildest house cat when it’s on the prowl will be astounded by the brutality and indifference.


49 posted on 06/29/2007 8:36:39 AM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: Red Badger

You know what they say, what goes around comes around.


50 posted on 06/29/2007 8:39:33 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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