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Catholic University Teacher Orders U.S. Bishops Not to “Harass” Catholic Politicians
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/29/07 | Elizabeth O’Brien

Posted on 06/29/2007 3:35:19 PM PDT by wagglebee

MILWAUKEE, June 29, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a letter to the New York Times on Monday, Daniel C. Maguire, a professor of moral theology at Marquette University, stated that bishops should stop harassing Catholic politicians who vote in favor of abortion.

Maguire drew on St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas who both thought that to allow certain moral evils would prevent “greater evils.” He further cited Aquinas, who said that the “wise legislator” imitates God, who “tolerates certain evils lest greater evils ensue.”

The letter continued, “Similarly, today legislators who truly think abortion immoral could vote to keep it legal since greater evils, multiple deaths of women (especially poor women) from botched abortions as seen before Roe v. Wade, would follow.”

He concluded, “Catholic bishops, even though they are pastors and administrators and not professional theologians, should know this and cease harassing Catholic candidates, thus making Catholic candidates less electable.”

Maguire's theology, however, is condemned by the Church. The notion of promoting the "lesser of two evils" is condemned as the error of "proportionalism," while the attempt to draw such a position from the works of Augustine and Aquinas is condemned by orthodox academics as gravely erroneous.

Maguire has had a record of dissent from Catholic Church teaching ever since the sexual revolution in 1960’s. This March the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) condemned Maguire’s views (published in certain pamphlets) on same-sex “marriage”, contraception and abortion as being “contrary to the Church’s faith”. The USCCB further declared, “We deplore as irresponsible his public advocacy of his views as authentic Catholic teaching” (see http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/mar/07032301.htm).

Shortly after this event, Catholic organizations Human Life International and the Cardinal Newman Society called for the dismissal of Maguire from the Catholic University Marquette. Despite these requests, however, he still retains his position as a professor of ethics (see http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/mar/07032713.html).

LifeSiteNews.com contacted the office of Rev. Timothy M. Dolan, Archbishop of Milwaukee, but was unable to obtain a comment by press time.

For the full text of the statement of the Bishops Committee on Maguire:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/mar/070323a.html

Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:

US Bishops Denounce False Abortion, Marriage Teaching by “Catholic” Theologian
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/mar/07032301.html

Dissident Professors At U.S. Catholic Universities Pave Way To Euthanasia
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05060203.html

To contact the Department of Theology at Marquette University and respectfully voice concerns:

Department of Theology
P.O. Box 1881
Milwaukee, Wis. USA
53201-1881
Phone: (414) 288-7170
Fax: (414) 288-5548


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; catholicpoliticians; humanlife; killingunborn; prolife; university
Maguire drew on St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas who both thought that to allow certain moral evils would prevent “greater evils.” He further cited Aquinas, who said that the “wise legislator” imitates God, who “tolerates certain evils lest greater evils ensue.”

The letter continued, “Similarly, today legislators who truly think abortion immoral could vote to keep it legal since greater evils, multiple deaths of women (especially poor women) from botched abortions as seen before Roe v. Wade, would follow.”

3500 murders a day IS NOT the "lesser of two evils"!

1 posted on 06/29/2007 3:35:21 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser

Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 06/29/2007 3:35:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer; Coleus; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480

Catholic Ping


3 posted on 06/29/2007 3:36:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Bishops are “ordered” not to harass certain US politicians.

Who does this guy think he is, the Pope? Where does he get off, giving commands he has no authority to issue?

Imperfect men making imperfect decisions and drawing imperfect conclusions.


4 posted on 06/29/2007 3:41:00 PM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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To: wagglebee

What could be more evil then killing a human being?


5 posted on 06/29/2007 3:42:25 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Professor Librescu is an American hero.)
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To: alloysteel

Moral edicts from the gang of lefties running Marquette University are meaningless.


6 posted on 06/29/2007 3:43:00 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: wagglebee
Maguire drew on St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas who both thought that to allow certain moral evils would prevent “greater evils.”

So women dying from botched abotions is more evil than putting to death a helpless baby, or really all helpless babies? I don't understand the (il)logic.

7 posted on 06/29/2007 3:45:25 PM PDT by scott7278 (Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men!)
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To: scott7278

Especially when you consider that the drop in abortion deaths was underway BEFORE Roe v. Wade, it was due to antibiotics, not legalized infanticide.


8 posted on 06/29/2007 3:46:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

“In a letter to the New York Times on Monday, Daniel C. Maguire, a professor of moral theology at Marquette University, stated that bishops should stop harassing Catholic politicians who vote in favor of abortion.”

Time for the bishop’s to start threatening university professors.


9 posted on 06/29/2007 3:50:03 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

It’s on a slightly different issue, but that’s what the Archbishop of Omaha has done.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1858508/posts


10 posted on 06/29/2007 3:51:22 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I think it is also academically dishonest, heinous and grievous to use the teachings of St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas to support an immoral position that proportionally is not even close to what they were originally teaching.


11 posted on 06/29/2007 3:52:33 PM PDT by scott7278 (Free soil, free labor, free speech, free men!)
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To: wagglebee

Looks like his theological “tenure” should be terminated.


12 posted on 06/29/2007 3:59:22 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: wagglebee

Maguire is a heretic, plain and simple. It’s long past time that Marquette removed this aging hippie from its theology department.

The Cardinal Newman Society has recently been trying to put pressure on the president of Marquette to take action.


13 posted on 06/29/2007 4:00:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BamaAndy; wagglebee
What could be more evil then killing a human being?

Smoking in public. Voting Republican. Opposing abortion. Driving an SUV.

14 posted on 06/29/2007 4:05:46 PM PDT by marron
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To: wagglebee

The New York Times gets zillions of letters from crackpots of all stripes. So why did they pick this one to publish? Obviously, because Maguire comes with the label CATHOLIC THEOLOGIAN which allows the NYTimes to do yet another “in your face” to the institution they loathe the most. But why is Maguire allowed to continue advertising himself in this deceptive way? Because the bishops are too wimpy to stop him from it. After all, the only ones who really suffer from this nonsense are those who actually believe what they teach.


15 posted on 06/29/2007 4:09:46 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: wagglebee
He further cited Aquinas, who said that the “wise legislator” imitates God, who “tolerates certain evils lest greater evils ensue.”

"Greater evils" like voting Republican,perhaps?

16 posted on 06/29/2007 4:10:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: wagglebee
stated that bishops should stop harassing Catholic politicians who vote in favor of abortion.

Stop harassing them? You mean they started and I missed it??!! :(

17 posted on 06/29/2007 4:13:43 PM PDT by maryz
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To: alloysteel

Yes, the professor seems a bit confused about his order in the RCC chain of command!


18 posted on 06/29/2007 4:14:59 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: wagglebee
Maguire is mad. From disappointment, from frustration?Point to remember is that he speaks only for himself, is in fact a heretic.
19 posted on 06/29/2007 4:18:59 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: wagglebee

Time for Archbishop Dolan to come down hard on this heretic.


20 posted on 06/29/2007 4:24:02 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: wagglebee

Daniel C. Maguire This devil is not a Catholic.


21 posted on 06/29/2007 4:25:10 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: wagglebee
Maguire drew on St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas who both thought that to allow certain moral evils would prevent “greater evils.” He further cited Aquinas, who said that the “wise legislator” imitates God, who “tolerates certain evils lest greater evils ensue.”

Here's an idea - Instead people causing crime, why not use the government to take some people stuff and give it to other people?

/s
22 posted on 06/29/2007 4:25:43 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: scott7278
So women dying from botched abortions is more evil than putting to death a helpless baby, or really all helpless babies? I don't understand the (il)logic.

Illogic indeed, instead of comparing legal vs illegal abortions, shouldn't Maguire be encouraging women to give birth and life as nature and God intended.

23 posted on 06/29/2007 4:30:48 PM PDT by RJL
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To: wagglebee

This guy obviously saw “Sophie’s Choice” and believes that to kill only a few million is better than to suffer the indignity of losing others. Some times, as horrible as it is, it is the right choice to die, with your kids, than to choose murder of the innocent. Sadly, I would choose to die with my family than to condone the murder of one.


24 posted on 06/29/2007 4:30:50 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: marron

Ah ha ha!! Good one and oh so very true, Marron! I feel discrimnated against.


25 posted on 06/29/2007 4:42:48 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Professor Librescu is an American hero.)
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To: wagglebee

Mr. Maguire is dancing on the trapdoors of hell.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 4:45:49 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: wagglebee

Maybe the bishops should start harassing their university professors who don’t believe what their church teaches.


27 posted on 06/29/2007 5:49:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: wagglebee

Whatever happened to the Mandatum?
Is he tenured?

He needs to be fired for his arrogance and disrespect.


28 posted on 06/29/2007 5:57:27 PM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: wagglebee

This is why I would not allow my son to even apply to any of these CINO colleges. I would rather have him go to a secular college where he knows to be on guard against the lies being told.


29 posted on 06/29/2007 6:00:21 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: wagglebee

McGuire is an old man who left the priesthood and still
wants to control peoples lives. I thought he most probably was dead by now.


30 posted on 06/29/2007 6:06:25 PM PDT by Renatus
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To: wagglebee
Daniel C. Maguire

is a 24K POS. An ex-priest, who married Marjorie Reiley while she was a grad student at Catholic University, claims he can find a woman's right to abort her baby in Scripture. Those two wrote Abortion: A Guide to Making Ethical Choices for Frank Kissling and the anti-Catholic CFFC back in 1983.

Their particular judgments, along with those phonies at Marquette who enabled them, will be interesting to say the least.

31 posted on 06/29/2007 6:46:04 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: wagglebee

“Orders, eh? Who does he think he is?”


32 posted on 06/29/2007 6:46:54 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: wagglebee

Professor Maguire has no business teaching at a Catholic university and advising the Bishops on matters of faith. It is the duty of a Catholic university professor to teach the Catholic faith, not what he would like it to be. It sounds like he would fit in better with a liberal Church like the Metropolitan Community Church.


33 posted on 06/29/2007 6:49:37 PM PDT by Pinkbell (I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order. - Mike Pence)
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To: wagglebee

Is there a webcam at Marquette where we can see the puff of white smoke?


34 posted on 06/29/2007 7:08:44 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: BamaAndy

“What could be more evil then killing a human being?...”

Well according to this clown, challenging the faith of those that support killing a human being is more evil...


35 posted on 06/29/2007 7:12:31 PM PDT by mo
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To: wagglebee
Ya gotta be kidding me:

The letter continued, “Similarly, today legislators who truly think abortion immoral could vote to keep it legal since greater evils, multiple deaths of women (especially poor women) from botched abortions as seen before Roe v. Wade, would follow.”

The mythical thousands versus the factual millions, to say nothing of the psychological and spiritual carnage women and men suffer post-"choice"...

And this so called Catholic is teaching.

36 posted on 06/29/2007 7:17:14 PM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: wagglebee

If irresponsible sex had more consequences, there’d be less irresponsible sex.
Hey ‘teach’, got any stats on the number of women who died in any given year, from botched abortions?

Nah?.....Didn’t think so!


37 posted on 06/29/2007 7:21:15 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
what he's tyring to say is that it's moral to vote for a pro-abortion democrat  and immoral to vote for the pro-life republican as a republican might vote to lower an entitlement appropriation or expect people to take care of themselves and be more responsible.
 
archbishop myers talks  about proportionalism here in this thread, pro life is first while everything else is secondary.
A Voter's Guide: Pro-choice candidates and church teaching
 
 Veritatis splendor 
 
116.
A particular responsibility is incumbent upon Bishops with regard to Catholic institutions. Whether these are agencies for the pastoral care of the family or for social work, or institutions dedicated to teaching or health care, Bishops can canonically erect and recognize these structures and delegate certain responsibilities to them. Nevertheless, Bishops are never relieved of their own personal obligations. It falls to them, in communion with the Holy See, both to grant the title "Catholic" to Church-related schools,179 universities,180 health-care facilities and counselling services, and, in cases of a serious failure to live up to that title, to take it away.

179. Cf. Code of Canon Law, Canon 803, 3.
180. Cf. Code of Canon Law, Canon 808.
 
also Ex Corde Ecclesia? Catholic members of the university community are also called to a personal fidelity to the Church with all that this implies. Non-Catholic members are required to respect the Catholic character of the University, while the University in turn respects their religious liberty

38 posted on 06/29/2007 9:12:22 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: wagglebee

If only that bishops would disassociate the Catholic Church with that university as this one did.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1858508/posts


39 posted on 06/29/2007 9:45:26 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee

Kennedy is probably on that list.


40 posted on 06/29/2007 9:46:46 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.take the get)
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To: Renatus

Unfortunately in this guy’s case a flat EEG has not lead to a death certificate.


41 posted on 06/29/2007 9:47:02 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Revel

Geeze, in the Moral Theology class that I took it was clearly stated that abortion is a sin.


42 posted on 06/30/2007 11:09:30 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: alloysteel

The USCC has had enough of “Whopper Dan” and has issued at least one public letter of admonishment.

And, thanks be to God, the Archbishop of Milwaukee also did so.

(No, it was not Abp. Weakland.)

See:http://dad29.blogspot.com/2007/06/marquette-us-perennial-embarassment.html

and follow the internal links.


43 posted on 06/30/2007 11:25:07 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: rbosque

History:

Abp. Weakland never required the Mandatum from anyone in Milwaukee at ANY ‘Catholic’ school—Marquette (SJ), Stritch (SSSF), Alverno (OSF), or Mount Mary (SSND).

Needless to say, those institutions also buried the Mandatum stuff somewhere in the ‘inbox.’


44 posted on 06/30/2007 11:28:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ninenot

And there lies part of the problem. Are Catholic Universities “Catholic”? I would hope prospective students will do a bit of research before applying to any school.


45 posted on 06/30/2007 11:45:34 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: wagglebee

According to Dr. Nathanson, there were deaths from botched abortions in the “old days.” He saw them as a young doctor. But when he founded NARAL, and they needed a statistic on deaths from “back-alley abortions,” they just made one up: 5000 per year. The real figure was somewhere in the neighborhood of 100, at most. And that’s for the entire U.S., in the bad old days of illegal abortion.


46 posted on 06/30/2007 8:05:16 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Pinkbell

Marquette has issued a public statement that Maguire remains on their faculty only because of the exorbitant expense of firing him. (He has tenure.) But they also assured the public that they do not allow him to teach!


47 posted on 06/30/2007 8:09:01 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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