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U.S. raids Baghdad slum; 26 Iraqis die (PM Maliki condemns raid into area barred from entry)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/30/07 | Hamid Ahmed - ap

Posted on 06/30/2007 10:14:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

BAGHDAD - American soldiers rolled into Baghdad's Shiite Sadr City slum on Saturday in search of Iranian-linked militants and as many as 26 Iraqis were killed in what a U.S. officer described as "an intense firefight."

But residents, police and hospital officials said eight civilians were killed in their homes and angrily accused U.S. forces of firing blindly on the innocent. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.

Separately, two American solders were charged with the premeditated murder of three Iraqis, the U.S. military said Saturday. And in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of the capital, police said a suicide bomber blew himself up near a crowd of police recruits, killing at least 23 people and wounding 17.

A U.S. soldier was killed Friday and three wounded when a sophisticated, armor-piercing bomb hit their combat patrol in southern Baghdad, the military announced a day later.

The U.S. military said it conducted two pre-dawn raids in Sadr City, killing 26 "terrorists" who attacked U.S. troops with small arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades and roadside bombs. But Iraqi officials said all the dead were civilians.

An American military spokesman insisted all of those killed were combatants. "Everyone who got shot was shooting at U.S. troops at the time," said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver. "It was an intense firefight."

U.S. troops detained 17 men suspected of helping Iranian terror networks fund operations in Iraq, a military statement said. There were no U.S. casualties.

Witnesses said U.S. forces rolled into their neighborhood before dawn and opened fire without warning.

"At about 4 a.m., a big American convoy with tanks came and began to open fire on houses — bombing them," said Basheer Ahmed, who lives in Sadr City's Habibiya district. "What did we do? We didn't even retaliate — there was no resistance."

According to Iraqi officials, the dead included three members of one family — a father, mother and son. Several women and children, along with two policemen, were among the wounded, they said.

The assault brought quick criticism from al-Maliki. "The Iraqi government totally rejects U.S. military operations ... conducted without a pre-approval from the Iraqi military command," al-Maliki said in a statement released by his office. "Anyone who breaches the military command orders will face investigation."

Sadr City is the Iraqi capital's largest Shiite neighborhood — home to some 2.5 million people. It is also the base of operations for the Mahdi Army, a militia loyal to anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. The fighters are blamed for much of the sectarian killing in Baghdad.

Last year, al-Maliki banned military operations in Sadr City without his approval after complaints from his Shiite political allies. But he later agreed that no area of the capital was off-limits, after President Bush ordered reinforcements to Iraq as part of the Baghdad security operation.

Houses, a bakery and some other shops were damaged by U.S. tank fire during the assault, Iraqi officials said. In the Shiite holy city of Najaf, Sheik Salah al-Obaidi, a spokesman for al-Sadr condemned Saturday's raids: "The bombing hurt only innocent civilians."

A policeman wounded in the raid, Montadhar Kareem, said he was on night duty when U.S. troops moved in and "began bombing houses in the area."

"The bombing became more intense, and I was injured by shrapnel in both my legs and in my left shoulder," Kareem said from a gurney at Al Sadr General Hospital.

Hours afterward, a funeral procession snaked through Sadr City. Three coffins were hoisted atop cars.

One resident who goes by the nickname of Um Ahmed, or "mother of Ahmed," stood outside her home as mourners passed by.

"We are being hit while we are peacefully sleeping in our houses. Is that fair?" she cried. The woman gave only her nickname, fearing reprisal.

The U.S. military statement said American troops opened fire on four civilian cars during the assault — one that failed to stop at a checkpoint, and three that insurgents were using for cover as they shot at U.S. soldiers.

"Every structure and vehicle that the troops on the ground engaged were being used for hostile intent," Garver said. Some of the 26 dead were in civilian cars, some had been hiding behind cars and others had fired on U.S. troops from nearby buildings, he said.

In the murder case, the two American soldiers are accused of killing three Iraqis in separate incidents, then planting weapons on the victims' remains, the military said in a statement. Fellow soldiers reported the alleged crimes, which took place between April and this month near Iskandariyah, 30 miles south of Baghdad, it said.

The U.S. military on Saturday identified the soldiers as Staff Sgt. Michael A. Hensley from Candler, N.C., and Spc. Jorge G. Sandoval from Laredo, Texas.

Hensley is charged with three counts each of premeditated murder, obstructing justice and "wrongfully placing weapons with the remains of deceased Iraqis," the military said. He was placed in military confinement in Kuwait on Thursday.

Sandoval faces one count each of premeditated murder and placing a weapon with the remains of a dead Iraqi, a statement said. He was taken into custody Tuesday while at home in Texas, and was transferred to military confinement in Kuwait three days later, it said.

Saturday's blast in Muqdadiyah ripped through a crowded market area where Iraqi police recruits were having coffee, police said.

One witness, 30-year-old Abu Omar, said he rushed to the area where his brother has a shop, and saw police loading mutilated bodies into the back of a pickup truck. Fire engines sprayed water onto burning storefronts, and ambulances evacuated the wounded, he said.

At least seven shops were destroyed by the explosion, and the market street soaked with blood, Omar said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baghdad; iraqis; iraqisdie; maliki; raids; sadrcity
Methinks Maliki and his government have been deemed to be leaky re: recent clandestine raids and thus the move by troops without his folks being advised of the operation.
1 posted on 06/30/2007 10:14:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Carry out the raids without any interference. Do the job.
Maliki STFU.


2 posted on 06/30/2007 10:17:45 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maliki being Shiite has declared various "Shiite areas" off limits for forces to even enter much less track and chase terrorists down.

That we are even agreeing not to take out Mookie al Sadr and his merry band of killers is even a much bigger mistake, IMHO.

3 posted on 06/30/2007 10:20:41 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maliki needs to be found in the rubble in the aftermath of one of our raids!


4 posted on 06/30/2007 10:21:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.

In other words, a terrorist safe haven. I'm a little surprised to learn that US operations were barred from operating anywhere. Hopefully, this is a new aggressive trend.

5 posted on 06/30/2007 10:22:06 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri

Gee isn’t it intresting that the All Propaganda reporting on both Iraq and Afganistan start out today with claims of wanton civilian attacks by Coalition forces

Let see. Both from AP, the same orgnaization that has a number of local stringers it hired sitting in Iraq prisons caught read handed aiding the Insurgents.

Could it be that maybe AP needs to do some house cleaning since it is pretty obviously being used as a propaganda outlet by our foes?


6 posted on 06/30/2007 10:24:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: NormsRevenge
a district where he has barred U.S. operations

About as effective with that as with managing the rest of his country.

7 posted on 06/30/2007 10:26:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Azzurri
War is hell. Its time for the U.S. to take off the "kid gloves" and stop allowing others to tell our forces where they can do their jobs and where they can't do their jobs.

Looks as if Maliki is two-faced and is doesn't want peace.

8 posted on 06/30/2007 10:26:37 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: NormsRevenge

I think you’re very correct.

Maliki has not been a very good ally. I don’t know why he’s protecting Sadr .. but I can guess.


9 posted on 06/30/2007 10:28:15 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth!)
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To: NormsRevenge

demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.... because the assholes were there. Get a grip, Mr. Leaky. Embrace the suck.


10 posted on 06/30/2007 10:29:04 AM PDT by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Terrorists are all civilians.

Stupid report.


11 posted on 06/30/2007 10:30:37 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: NormsRevenge

AP, what is this, pure Mookie propaganda?


12 posted on 06/30/2007 10:32:02 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who wrote this article a Sadrist?


13 posted on 06/30/2007 10:34:36 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Allegra

ping


14 posted on 06/30/2007 10:34:51 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: Beckwith
Terrorists are all civilians. Stupid report.

You got it - It is clear the latest angle the MSM are going to take is to start hyping that virtually all we kill on the battlefield are "Civs".

The MSM is pathetic, disgusting and intellectually empty.

As for Maliki, hopefully he isn't being quoted correctly, or is simply saying this for domestic spin (though even that is becoming BS to swallow at a point)....or he does simply need to STFU....and should be told so in no uncertain terms if that be the case.

15 posted on 06/30/2007 10:35:39 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: zerosix
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.

Well, this ain't the past. The US forces are under new management.

16 posted on 06/30/2007 10:36:21 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Anyone who breaches the military command orders will face investigation."

So al-Maliki is going to investigate Petraeus since Petraeus didn't ask al-Maliki first? Too funny!

17 posted on 06/30/2007 10:36:45 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: NormsRevenge
(PM Maliki condemns raid into area barred from entry)

SURE! (because Al queda's hideout is there)

18 posted on 06/30/2007 10:37:20 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: NormsRevenge
But Iraqi officials said all the dead were civilians.

Who are these "Iraqi officials?" They should be taken out and shot.

19 posted on 06/30/2007 10:37:46 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: DevSix

Last year, al-Maliki banned military operations in Sadr City without his approval after complaints from his Shiite political allies. But he later agreed that no area of the capital was off-limits, after President Bush ordered reinforcements to Iraq as part of the Baghdad security operation.


20 posted on 06/30/2007 10:38:12 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: NormsRevenge

Raids into areas where there are insurgents cannot be bothered with worrying which people are innocent.

If they are innocent they better find a new place to stay.

When the Crap hits the fan anyone in the direction its pointed is going to get manure on them.


21 posted on 06/30/2007 10:40:07 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: bnelson44
Ops were never really banned for starters - That was all domestic BS spin.....Which is why I said that is exactly what these comments may be as well....Regardless, even that, is getting old.

He needs to step up and be firm. Sans the BS Shia spin.

22 posted on 06/30/2007 10:40:12 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

per Harry Reid, the dems will start working for a 4 month accelerated pull-out this week, looks like the media is already doing the softening salvos for the latest “surge” by the left to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.


23 posted on 06/30/2007 10:41:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Separately, two American solders were charged with the premeditated murder of three Iraqis, the U.S. military said Saturday."

I am 100% for the war against militant islam, whether it be in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines or wherever. I say go get them and give them no quarter. But this is why I cannot stomach President Bush anymore. I am sick to death of reading about American troops being charged with war crimes by our own military. These allegations are just PC bullshit to appease the Iraqi malcontents who really don't want us there in the first place. Bush needs to put an end to this 'war crime' $#it by telling the Iraqi government and General Petraeous that he doesn't want to see one more of his warriors get charged with 'war crimes' or 'murder'. He is the CiC of the military after all. If he doesn't carry the weight to stop these self destructive, obnoxious attacks against our own troops then he needs to get his pardon pen out and use it.

24 posted on 06/30/2007 10:43:27 AM PDT by gemma0000 (When they refer to ILLEGAL ALIENS as "immigrants" they aren't worth talking to.)
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To: NormsRevenge
per Harry Reid, the dems will start working for a 4 month accelerated pull-out this week, looks like the media is already doing the softening salvos for the latest “surge” by the left to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

Time to see if the GOP base is as fervently for our warriors down range as they were for a 30 year in the making immigration problem.

Will they shut the phones down of Washington D.C. in support of our warriors giving all 24/7 down range??

Hopefully we will proudly see that our base does...If not, we're no different then the DEMs when the rubber hits the road in terms of guarding our warriors flanks down range...

25 posted on 06/30/2007 10:45:44 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: zerosix

The areas declared off limits should be the areas leveled.

Oops... we bad.


26 posted on 06/30/2007 10:46:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (THE US SENATE IS THE MOST CORRUPT BODY POLITIC SINCE THE ROMAN EMPIRE.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You mean that great hero and bulwark of the FREE IRAQ we are building in Iraq, Nour Mailiki? HOW DARE you criticize this bastion of hope for Iraq? Don't you realize that this great lion of democracy has a LONG HISTORY of fighting for freedom? Or has it escaped your attention that when this brave arab whom we are keeping in office was exiled to Syria, he was one of the founders of Hizbollah in Lebanon. Yep, our "friend" and stalwart defender of the good ole red white and blue helped found that brave and patriotic group who courageously drove a truck bomb into the dormitory of the infidel marines and blew 200 plus of them to....... wait, uh, nevermind.

Anyway, anyone who brings this stuff up is a COWARD, a TRAITOR, and a CUT AND RUN LIBERAL PANSY who just wants to subvert the job our military is doing.

I would advise you in the future to ONLY post on the good our boys are doing, how brave they are, and how they are succeding in propping up islamofacism, uh, interceding in a 1200 year old civil war no, that is not the right way to say it attempting to impose "democracy" on a hostile theocratic 7th century mentality dang! no, I don't have the right words to say to describe exactly WHAT we are sending our bravest and best for, but you better believe that if we DON'T keep them over there keeping terrorists like Maliki in power, then we will suffer the results of terrorism over here!!! You see, we have to prop up murderous fanatics like Maliki and his happy band of Dawa Jihadists (that is right, they call their Syria operations the "jihadist party" of Dawa), well if we don't keep those terrorists in power, then we will have TERRORISM. Can't you see that? We have to support the terrorists to fight terrorism, and anyone who disagrees with that is a coward, a naive pacifist hippie who just thinks the world's problems can be solved by smoking another bowl, and holding hands while singing Kum bay yah. Ain't it just grand to be a patriotic American fascist conservative nowadays?

How long before we recognize that the Middle East is a festering pustule that will swallow us up long before we "change it?" These people are NEVER going to do anything but hate us with a murderous burning rage. Declare victory (we deposed Sadam, it is their turn to take care of themselves), and get the hell out.

Written by a man whose VERY best friend in the world is a coronel (special forces) in Baghdad, and whose future son in law is on his third tour of duty in Iraq (at 21 years of age).

27 posted on 06/30/2007 10:55:29 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s just say that Sadr City is in flux and is rosin to the core. Ba da bing.


28 posted on 06/30/2007 11:01:20 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past."

Doing the jobs Iraqis just won't do.

I no longer believe our military presence in Iraq is to stabilize Iraq with a strong government in place. The war has always been too political. Should have just set the military free from the very beginning to achieve the quickest possible victory.

It appears now that our politicians are seeking a "face saving" point where our forces can be removed.

Guaranteed, when that time comes, self-exiled Iraqi leaders, primarily in Syria and Iran will return to Iraq. Then all hell breaks out.

If anything comes to light that indicates our continued military presence is for the sake of politicians saving face, trash the politicians and get the troops out immediately. Our military forces are due better.

Quick, possibly dumb question: The bomb threats in London yesterday had me thinking about the IEDS being employed against our troops in Iraq. The triggering mechanism for the London bombs were cell phones, and I've heard this same sort of triggering mechanism is employed on IEDS. Can't someone turn off the damn cell phone services in Iraq? Even better, outlaw the damn cell phones and shutdown cell phone services in Iraq so long as we have our military there.
29 posted on 06/30/2007 11:01:25 AM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

colonel, sorry


30 posted on 06/30/2007 11:01:57 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now they bleat like sheep for security)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Bring them home now and let them kill each other like they have done for 1400 years, we won’t let our troops fight, we put the ones who do fight back in prison , and we train and arm the enemy then put them in with our troops ! What a shame . Our marines and soldiers don’t have anyone on their side .


31 posted on 06/30/2007 11:28:51 AM PDT by noamnasty
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To: noamnasty

Correction : We put them in prison ,not BACK in prison .


32 posted on 06/30/2007 11:30:32 AM PDT by noamnasty
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To: NormsRevenge
PM Milkie should get his act together now or we should move out and let nature take it’s course for awhile.
33 posted on 06/30/2007 11:40:46 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: TennTuxedo

“Its time for the U.S. to take off the “kid gloves” and stop allowing others to tell our forces where they can do their jobs and where they can’t do their jobs.”

I watched this crap in Vietnam and couldn’t agree with you more.

We are making the same damned mistakes AGAIN.

Whether you believe our cause is just or not (I do) this war is being mismanaged horribly.


34 posted on 06/30/2007 11:54:55 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: NormsRevenge

cnn international is playing this up as us soldiers killed only civilians.

CNNI is more anti american than the BBC...


35 posted on 06/30/2007 12:23:48 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maliki is making it very difficult for us to save his dumb behind. I’m beginning to think he’s a fool, a Kerensky type (the Russian PM whom Lenin overthrew, or he may be as dumb as Jimmuh Cartar.
36 posted on 06/30/2007 12:43:00 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats even want foreign terrorists to be treated like US citizens.)
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To: sauropod

review


37 posted on 06/30/2007 12:44:35 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: NormsRevenge

Arrest Maliki. Who’s in charge here?


38 posted on 06/30/2007 1:21:14 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"(THE US SENATE IS THE MOST CORRUPT BODY POLITIC SINCE THE ROMAN EMPIRE.)" Well, Nero, at the very least!
39 posted on 06/30/2007 2:33:07 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: NormsRevenge

.....We are being hit while we are peacefully sleeping in our houses.......

During war, constant vigilance is necessary. Otherwise you die while sleeping.


40 posted on 06/30/2007 2:45:31 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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To: NormsRevenge
But residents, police and hospital officials said eight civilians were killed in their homes and angrily accused U.S. forces of firing blindly on the innocent. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.

It's either time to feed Maliki to the dogs and get our own SOB or bring the boys home. PC war fighting is a travesty against our soldiers and national interests.

41 posted on 06/30/2007 3:24:06 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is the Herbert Hoover of border security)
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