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U.K.:Children urged to pressure parents on smoking
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 30, 2007 | Adam Lusher

Posted on 06/30/2007 11:57:42 PM PDT by Stoat

Children urged to pressure parents on smoking


By Adam Lusher, Sunday Telegraph
 
Last Updated: 11:48pm BST 30/06/2007
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    Young children are to be mobilised to heap pressure on their parents to give up smoking, in a continuing drive against the habit.

    As England awakes to a ban on lighting up in pubs and restaurants today, plans have been drawn up for "smoking cessation support workers" to visit schools to "educate" children about the dangers of passive smoking.

     

    The children will then be urged to return home and "stand up for their rights" by telling their mothers and fathers to stop smoking at home.

    Details of the initiative, branded as "disgraceful moral blackmail" by critics, come as Caroline Flint, a health minister until last week's reshuffle, has told local authorities to adopt a softly-softly approach in the early days of the ban on smoking in public places, which came into effect at 6am this morning.

    Calling for breaches to be settled with a quiet word rather than a fine, she said: "We are saying, 'Don't come down like a ton of bricks'. There may be some smoking martyrs, but only when people are flagrantly breaking the law should matters be taken further, as a last resort."

    The initiative to use children to persuade their parents to stop smoking is being pioneered in London by the North Fulham New Deal for Communities (NDC) project, backed with £15,000 of government money. Other groups, including NHS primary care trusts, are expected to adopt similar measures.

     

    A spokesman for North Fulham NDC said: "It's about getting children to fight for their rights. Workers will visit schools to educate children about the dangers of second-hand smoke, so children can then ask their parents to respect their right to grow up in a smoke-free home."

    She said that the focus of the campaign would be persuading parents to stop smoking at home, but added: "Lots of kids will want their parents to give up totally when they realise the dangers. It is not necessarily down to the children to tell parents to give up now, but the ideal is for them to explain, 'Mum, I don't want you to smoke at all'."

    The British Medical Association said: "If children come home and say, 'I think you should give up for my health and for your own', that can only be a good thing. If doctors were happy, we would support primary care trusts doing something similar."

    The campaigns group Ash, Action on Smoking and Health, said the initiative was "very sensible - if it works, we would like it replicated nationwide".

    However, the project was condemned by others. Simon Clark, the director of Forest, the Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco, said: "It is disgraceful that children should be used to morally blackmail their parents. The authorities are losing all sense of proportion."

    This weekend, there were dozens of events to mark the introduction of the ban, such as The Last Gasp Masked Ball at 9 Adam Street, a private members' club in London.

    At a speech to the Last Gasp Dinner, at the Garrick on Friday, Ronald Harwood, who won an Oscar for his screenplay of the film The Pianist, compared the politicians introducing the ban to Nazis.

    He said: "Smokers form the last bastion of individual freedom. Politicians, our elected representatives, have a savage impulse to control and they have taken this to extremes.

    "Communists, fascists and Nazis were also fanatical in their desire to control."

    In Bolton, Nick Hogan, publican of the Swan, was today due to hold "a day of defiance" involving up to 700 people gathering in his pub from all over the UK. "It is about the freedom to choose," he said.

    About 3.7 million workplaces, including 200,000 pubs and restaurants, will be affected by the ban. Individuals breaking the rules risk a £50 fine, and landlords or employers allowing smoking could be fined up to £2,500.

    More than 1,000 council monitors are thought to be enforcing the ban, but since many are environmental health officials who work a standard nine to five week, it is unclear how many will be actively policing the rules.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: children; govwatch; nannystate; pufflist; smokers; smoking
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1 posted on 06/30/2007 11:57:44 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

The ghost of Uncle Joe Stalin smiles benevolently over their shoulders.


2 posted on 07/01/2007 12:04:26 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: Stoat

Read it online.
3 posted on 07/01/2007 12:08:45 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Stoat

Well, Soviet Communist Young Pioneers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Pioneer_organization_of_the_Soviet_Union and German Nazi Hitler Jugend (Youth) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Youth
spied and admonished their parents, so why shouldn’t the United Kingdom’s Socialist kids do the same?


4 posted on 07/01/2007 12:12:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Stoat
It is not necessarily down to the children to tell parents to give up now, but the ideal is for them to explain, 'Mum, I don't want you to smoke at all'."

And it's up to the parents to say, "You are the child. I am an adult. You have NO power over me or, for that matter, over anyone. You only have power over yourself. I hope that you learn from my mistakes and choose to be *better* than me in this regard. If you have a problem with smoking, then don't smoke."

(Typing with hic-cups isn't impossible... only very difffficull-t!) ;-)

5 posted on 07/01/2007 12:15:04 AM PDT by Marie (Unintended consequences.)
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To: Stoat
Vanguard of the Future...
6 posted on 07/01/2007 12:15:14 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Gabz

You know you love these.


7 posted on 07/01/2007 12:18:18 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: SheLion

Ping-a-roonie!


8 posted on 07/01/2007 12:25:38 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Marie
""It's about getting children to fight for their rights. Workers will visit schools to educate children about the dangers of second-hand smoke, so children can then ask their parents to respect their right to grow up in a smoke-free home." "

You remember the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

9 posted on 07/01/2007 12:33:39 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

The U. K. should be urging children to learn about the constitution and the free market.

Somewhere Lenin, Mao and Stalin are high-fiving it.


10 posted on 07/01/2007 4:51:05 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Stoat

Parents urged to chop the rugrats into pieces and feed them to the crows?


11 posted on 07/01/2007 4:56:00 AM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: Stoat; Gabz; SheLion; RandallFlagg

“Bad news, son. We’re not your real parents and if you don’t shut up we’re giving you back.”


12 posted on 07/01/2007 4:57:39 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Stoat; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State Ping.

I need more coffee.


13 posted on 07/01/2007 5:36:35 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 07/01/2007 6:06:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Gabz

Our 'Nanny State Cig Cam' catches Gabz in a pensive moment...

15 posted on 07/01/2007 6:06:45 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL!!!


16 posted on 07/01/2007 6:10:24 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Stoat

When the kiddies start paying the bills, then they can tell me what to do in my house.


17 posted on 07/01/2007 6:19:45 AM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Gabz; Stoat

Thanks for the ping, Gabz! You’d think Great Britain would have more pressing concerns these days.

This just in: a car full of cigarettes was found parked in front of the nightclub, Tiger Tiger! A carload of Asians puffing away on cigarettes crashed into an airline terminal at Glasgow Airport! Idiots...


18 posted on 07/01/2007 7:17:06 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: philman_36

Just what I was thinking. It’s the real world version of theso vile little “spies”.


19 posted on 07/01/2007 7:18:10 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: 383rr

theso=those


20 posted on 07/01/2007 7:18:36 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Stoat

in communism, children where encouraged to spy on parents


21 posted on 07/01/2007 7:39:20 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Stoat
Lebensborn

22 posted on 07/01/2007 9:10:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


23 posted on 07/01/2007 9:10:48 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Flavius
>>>in communism, children where encouraged to spy on parents

in communism, children where are encouraged to spy on parents

24 posted on 07/01/2007 9:12:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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