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What's the Rush?
ProLifeblogs ^ | June 27 2007 | plb

Posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

Edited on 07/02/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

That's the question Bobby Schindler asked in the case involving Jesse Ramirez, the Arizona man whose case paralleled that of Schindler's sister, Terri Schiavo, until Ramirez woke up. The Arizona Republic reports:

...Bobby Schindler of the Florida-based Terri Schindler Shiavo Foundation placed the blame on a medical establishment quick to dismiss patients with brain injuries.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

"What is the rush?" he asked. "This is not the first time we've heard of cases like this where doctors want to write off the chance of recovery, and the family, when they're told this, will make a decision to end a person's life.

"In the case of Mr. Ramirez, he'd be dead now."

Why is Jesse alive? His family sought legal intervention with the help of the Alliance Defense Fund:
His siblings and parents refused to give him up for dead, and today, Jesse Ramirez is alive and conscious.

Two weeks ago, he was the center of a family battling over of whether he should live or die.

Now, he can hug and kiss, nod his head, answer yes and no questions, give a thumbs-up sign and sit in a chair.

Related:

A Miracle for Jesse Ramirez and His Family

Jesse Ramirez Conscious, Moved To Rehab Facility

Accident victim awakens


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: civilrights; giannajessen; jebbush; jesseramirez; jgreer; medialies; parentsrights; schindler; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Study Finds Patients' Suicide Requests Lowered After Depression Treatment

Other known successful treatments include a good night's sleep, finally breaking 100 in golf or 200 in bowling, or having your mother-in-law leave after living with you for six months.

P.S. One beer will cure an anxiety attack.

101 posted on 07/06/2007 5:25:58 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit
>>finally breaking 100 in golf

Bummer! Thanks a lot for reminding me! Now I am really down, may go outside and step on a bug just out of meanness and frustration.

102 posted on 07/06/2007 5:44:35 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

“As disgusting as it is to watch the death culters around here try to justify euthanasia, it’s even more disgusting to see them justify butchering someone for spare body parts. I have a feeling that just a few weeks ago none of them would have objected to cutting open Jesse Ramirez.”

We’re getting more and more like China, except we don’t use political prisoners (yet), just the ill. We should do all we can to stop this. I cringe to think what would happen if Hillary ever became president.


103 posted on 07/06/2007 8:26:00 AM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there. http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: T'wit
"One beer will cure an anxiety attack."

I assume you are trying to be funny here, but as a recovering alcoholic who suffers terribly from a clinical anxiety disorder and panic attacks, I don't find this remark humorous at all. One beer does not "cure" my anxiety. I should know; I spent 25 years or so trying that particular "cure" over and over again. Perhaps you did not mean to be offensive, or perhaps you simply don't know any better, but ridiculing mental illness is no less offensive than ridiculing any other disability. From what I have read on this thread, I would have expected better.

104 posted on 07/06/2007 8:41:00 AM PDT by kozokey
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To: kozokey; T'wit; 8mmMauser
I assume you are trying to be funny here, but as a recovering alcoholic . . . One beer does not "cure" my anxiety.

Same here. However, exposing the death cult trolls on FR for what they really are does wonders!

105 posted on 07/06/2007 8:52:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kozokey
>> I don't find this remark humorous at all.

I hope you find peace. If I may suggest as much, you can learn to be kinder to yourself if you relax and be friendlier toward others. There is nothing to be scared of here.

106 posted on 07/06/2007 10:25:39 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: kozokey; T'wit

Not to worry. I just read a joke that’s kind of funny, unless you happen to be allergic to peanuts. I heard a rumor that T’wit is allergic to peanuts. (Ok, I made that rumor up.) So I’ll defend your honor by telling a peanut joke, and T’wit can be indignantly offended.

A man walks into a bar - he sits down and orders a drink. The barman gives him his drink, accompanied by a bowl of peanuts. To his surprise, a voice comes from the peanut bowl. “You look great tonight!” it said, “You really look fantastic... and that aftershave is just wonderful!”

The man is obviously a little confused, but tries to ignore it. Realizing he has no cigarettes he wanders over to the cigarette machine. After inserting his money, another voice emits from the machine. “You’re a TOTAL WANKER... My God you STINK... Do you know, you’re almost AS UGLY AS YOUR MOTHER!”

By now, the man is extremely perplexed. He turns to the barman for an explanation. “Ah yes sir,” the barman responds, “The peanuts are complimentary, but the cigarette machine is out of order.”


107 posted on 07/06/2007 4:47:25 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
{chortle}

But OK, if you insist, I'm offended!

108 posted on 07/06/2007 8:54:51 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit; BykrBayb; kozokey; wagglebee

Yeah, peanuts, huh? Heh heh. Now I know...

I laughed at the one beer thing. One beer would never have done me anything other than look for the next beer. But different folks react differently. Twenty two years ago, I nearly croaked from alcohol toxity, was in intensive care for three days. I haven’t taken a drink since, but it doesn’t bother me at all. We have a full bar for those who drink, and my wife has wine with meals.

But a mutual friend of many years ago stopped the same time as I and has spent her life until now “not drinking”. Every day is a battle with her. She could not handle visiting with us and seeing dust covered bottles here and there.

I am easily offended though, just don’t know what about. But I will know it if I see it. To be safe, just don’t make lutefisk jokes, or if you do, make sure they are good ones.


109 posted on 07/07/2007 3:26:54 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Jayla, like Haleigh Poutre...

...............................


“I get hit a lot.”

    Those were the words of tiny 3-year-old Jayla, describing to investigators how the man she called Daddy “bited my lip with his teeth,” whacked her ear with a belt so hard she bled and beat her when she peed her pants, according to a police report.
    Shocking details of months of horrific injuries emerged yesterday after Jayla’s mother, Jessica Silveira, 26, and her live-in boyfriend, Bryan James, 34, who is accused of biting and mutilating the girl, pleaded not guilty yesterday in New Bedford District Court.
    The gut-wrenching case history, laid out in a 14-page New Bedford police report, reveals that doctors, police and DSS workers long suspected Jayla was a victim of abuse, but failed to stop it until she was horribly mutilated.

 Silveira was able to evade a DSS social worker for months. Despite repeated attempts, the case worker was never able to observe Jayla in the home, said DSS spokeswoman Denise Monteiro.
    Silveira blamed Jayla’s wounds on cat bites, scratches and falls and told police that James only visited, but didn’t live with her, said Silva Rudman, a Bristol County prosecutor and head of the child abuse unit.
    “She misled everybody,” said Rudman, who ranked the case among the worse she’s seen. “This type of behavior is so inhumane, to bite a child’s face is mayhem.”
    James has a history of violating restraining orders and once bit his ex-girlfriend’s face and hit her in the face, according to court records.
    Sharon Wood of New Bedford, whose daughter once dated the girl’s biological father, was outraged yesterday at news of the abuse. “DSS knew this and nothing was done,” Wood said.
    She said the children often visited her, and called Jayla a “tiny thing” and a beautiful girl.
     DSS has come under fire in recent years for failing to stop the abuse of young clients.
    In the notorious cases of victims Haleigh Poutre and Rebecca Riley, officials had blamed the ability of abusers to deceive investigators. New Commissioner Angelo McClain was appointed in the wake of the firestorm over such cases.
    DSS workers and police first learned of Jayla’s possible abuse in January, when a dentist alerted police and DSS about the girl’s cut lip. Doctors who examined Jayla at the time also noted that the girl had a human bite mark on her arm.
    In the ensuing months, police allege that little Jayla was beaten with a belt and bitten on her lip, back and side.
    Jayla described to police how “daddy Bryan” punished her when she was “bad, bad, bad.”
     “He hits my ears, my nose and my neck,” Jayla said, according to the police report. “He bit my lip and he broke it.”
    Jayla was admitted to Children’s Hospital April 25 with a deformed, infected lip, deformed ears as a result of “repeated trauma” and human bite marks. DSS took custody of the girl and her 5-year-old brother May 3, while Jayla was still hospitalized.

In the face of the allegations, Silveira’s friends and family stood by her yesterday. “I don’t think she’s guilty of anything,” said her best friend, Lena DaSilva. “She loves her kids.”
    Jayla’s biological father, Eric Offley, 33, a convicted sex offender, last saw Jayla in December. He insisted Silveira is a good mom, and blamed her behavior on “having a controlling boyfriend.”
    James and Silveira will be held without bail until a dangerousness hearing on Wednesday.

Records show months of suspected abuse

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110 posted on 07/07/2007 3:33:47 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Jayla's "daddy"


111 posted on 07/07/2007 3:37:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Australians deal with Terri's Legacy...

Nicholas Tonti-Filippini, the ethicist who chaired the working committee that drafted the new guidelines, says although voluntary, they should help prevent any instance here of the legal bunfight that occurred in 2005 over the fate of US woman Terri Schiavo, in a persistent vegetative state since 1990.

Her case was dragged through the US courts, and even Congress, amid a bitter dispute between her husband and her Catholic parents over whether her feeding tube should be removed. Her parents had claimed there was still a slight hope she might improve, but she was allowed to die in March 2005 after the Supreme Court refused to intervene. An autopsy later showed her brain had shrunk markedly, and no recovery could have occurred.

~Snip~

Associate Professor John Olver, director of rehabilitation at Melbourne's Epworth Hospital, said brain injury patients were slow to recover and needed better access to physio services that were not predicated on quick results.

"We have had patients in nursing homes who have come back for some reason or other, and because someone realises they show small signs of improvement they end up back in mainstream rehab, and have been able to get out of those nursing homes.''

That certainly gets Monica Blackstock's support. "I would like to see more help available for people like Brendan, rather than being in nursing homes. Being in a family environment, with familiar things around them, is far better for them.

The twilight zone... * New guidelines aim to clear a path through the ethical minefield of caring for people unresponsive after a coma.

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112 posted on 07/07/2007 3:44:40 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; T'wit
NKR again, Not Quite Right, from Kermit Roosevelt. Somehow reminds me of the motto of my family tree, "Vita non rosarium est"...

in upholding the federal partial-birth abortion ban, the court did defer to Congress, but not in the ordinary sense of allowing legislators to make a choice between competing values such as women's liberty and fetal life.

Instead, it elevated the medical judgment of members of Congress above that of doctors, including the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecologists, which held that the banned procedure was sometimes the safest way to terminate a particular pregnancy.

That was a strange choice. As the Terry Schiavo case showed, Congress is not very good at playing doctor in politically charged areas.

How to judge the Roberts Supreme Court

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113 posted on 07/07/2007 3:50:44 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; BykrBayb
Ping to a powerful story in a thread by BykrBayb. I am thankful we were able to keep our own son off the "life support" the doctors wanted and there were no tubes to pull as he died. Our happy son would have been gone long before had we heeded the doctors.

Lives of father and daughter intertwined until the end Richard and Anita Lynne Tebbs died within two days of each other

WASHINGTON COUNTY - Family members say Anita Lynne Tebbs' bond with her father, Richard Tebbs Sr., was so strong that it was evident to anyone who knew them.

Lives of father and daughter intertwined until the end ~ died within two days of each other

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114 posted on 07/07/2007 4:02:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Diago; wagglebee
Ping to a Sanger thread by Diago. Thanks, wagglebee.

Abortion has been numbered among the liberal causes of modern politics. Abortion is identified with women's rights just as the Civil Rights Movement was identified with equal rights for African Americans and other minorities. But is abortion really a liberal cause? A careful examination of the history of the abortion rights movement would shock even the most ardent defender of a woman's right to choose. The founders of the movement were in fact racists who despised the poor and who were searching for a way to prevent colored races from reproducing. Rather than defending the rights of the poorest of the poor, which is the tradition of liberalism, the founders advocated abortion as a means of eliminating the poor; especially Blacks, Jews, Slavs, and Italians. And rather than desiring to help the poor through welfare programs, they wanted to eliminate all charities and government aid. Today, most liberals would be shocked to know of this racist heritage. Not only is the founding of the abortion rights movement anti-liberal, but it may have been an attempt to promote racial genocide.

Uncovering the Racist and Anti-Semitic Roots of Abortion: Margaret Sanger's Search for the Pure Race

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115 posted on 07/07/2007 4:07:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to wagglebee thread on presidential slippage...

July 5, 2007 (pop.org) - President George W. Bush has done much good for the pro-life movement. His judicial appointments, especially to the Supreme Court, have strengthened the cause of Life. He has made good on his promises to veto anti-life legislation, and we have no doubt that he will continue to do so. Bush generally listens when strong pro-life leaders like Representative Chris Smith and Senator Sam Brownback speak. There is no question but that Bush is fairly conservative where matters of traditional morality are concerned.

At the same time, as time runs out on his presidency, we ask the question: Has Bush done all that could be expected for the cause of Life?

Ronald Reagan, to whom all modern presidents are compared, had the ability to galvanize people. The "great communicator" forged what became known as the "Reagan Coalition"--an alliance of traditional-minded Republicans and Democrats, who were united in part by the cause of Life. This coalition has now splintered on the issues of war, immigration, and the proper role of government. The Life issues have been the big losers.

Misplaced Priorities: It's Time for Bush to Return to his Pro-Life Roots

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116 posted on 07/07/2007 4:10:53 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to wagglebee thread...

“Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States.” These words, spoken in the East Room of the White House, lifted people to their feet in anticipation of the historic gathering of a presidential veto. Although the excitement of the event focused on President Bush, he intended for the spotlight to spill onto some others in the room. Those of us in the audience (including the staff of CWA) soon found out that people sprinkled on stage and in the audience provided the powerful argument to support Bush’s veto of the embryonic stem cell research funding bill.

Douglas Rice was one of them.

Stem Cell Survivors (People cured with Adult Stem Cells)

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117 posted on 07/07/2007 4:13:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on some pro-lifers. Har.

LOS ANGELES, July 6, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A pro-life youth organization held a sit-in demonstration today outside the campaign offices of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, not only to protest her radical support for abortion, but to train future leaders of the pro-life movement.

"Hillary has a radical pro-abortion agenda. Our generation has seen enough women hurt and enough children killed, and we are not going to support a candidate who stands for the killing of unborn children and the scarring of women and families," Kortney Blythe, spokeswoman for Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust, told LifeSiteNews.com.

Pro-Life Youth Group Demonstrates Outside Clinton Offices in Los Angeles

118 posted on 07/07/2007 4:16:51 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> To be safe, just don’t make lutefisk jokes,

Uff da. I don't know any lutefisk jokes. I am still working on fish boils. I don't know if they are to eat or to cure.

119 posted on 07/07/2007 4:26:12 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: T'wit

Drink plenty of cod liver oil. Your boils will clear right up.


120 posted on 07/07/2007 4:34:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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