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Meanwhile, our topic continues apace.
WASHINGTON (BP)New studies demonstrate that doctors should be extremely cautious about diagnosing patients as being in a vegetative state and in limiting their expectations of improvement.
Research teams from Belgium reported about 40 percent of patients they studied were misdiagnosed as in a vegetative state, when they actually should have been diagnosed as in a minimally conscious state, according to a June 20 report on News-Medical.Net, an online medical news service. Another Belgian team found about 25 percent of patients diagnosed in an acute vegetative state when they enter a hospital had a good opportunity to regain a considerable percentage of their faculties and as much as half would reacquire some level of consciousness.
A comparison with past studies demonstrated the incidence of misdiagnosis has not fallen in the last 15 years, News-Medical.Net reported.
The reports followed by two years the death of Terri Schiavo, a Florida woman who died of complications from dehydration. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, in a legal battle with Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, gained a ruling from a Florida court to have her feeding tube disconnected. She had been diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state and had been receiving nutrition and hydration through a tube since 1990, when she collapsed and suffered a brain injury.
Pro-life bioethics specialist Wesley Smith addresses issues of life support, doctor-family communication and medical directives on the bioethics.com weblog. He is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and an attorney for the International Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide.
There are evidently not enough raving ideologues (yet) in the lower reaches of the judiciary, for the Libby case is not the first time Republican appointees have found against Republicans in court. The Florida judge who found that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed, was a Republican appointee. So, for that matter, was the Federal judge who found the creationist school board of Dover, Pennsylvania, guilty of breathtaking inanity.
So, for that matter, was U. S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who prosecuted Libby.
It would have been one thing if the Libby commutation had been an aberration. But here is a man who as governor of Texas openly mocked a woman whom he had just put to death by pursing his lips and squeaking please dont kill me after she had appealed to him for clemency. Who did not intervene in a single one of the over 150 death sentences carried out on his watch although there were reasons to do so in at least several of them. Who as president did intervene against the wishes of Terri Schiavos husband. Who did not intervene when it became widely known that Tom Foley was preying on congressional pages or condemn his aberrance when he slunk off to a drunk tank. Who twice intervened to block expansion of federal funding of promising stem cell research.
They seem to have all the power. We seem to have none of it. We're supposed to live in a democracy. This is so frustrating to so many people. The politicians have misjudged the mood of the country again. This is another Terri Schiavo like moment. People are pissed and they want to take their government back. They want to be equal under the law again. It's not too much to ask for.
Lou Engle, founder of The Call, has spent much of the last few years in Washington, D.C., where he has presided over a group of ministries, including the Justice House of Prayer (JHOP). At JHOP, worshippers pray for the Supreme Court and political leaders 24 hours a day. Engle also started The Cause, a group of protesters who convey their dismay with abortion by covering their mouths with tape that has the word life printed on it. This group was also active at the Terri Schiavo brouhaha in Florida.
But now theyre here. Nashville is, Engle says, a great place to believe that God can change history. The Tennessee General Assembly apparently agrees, as the body passed a resolution honoring Engle and The Call, saying Engle epitomizes the spirit and commitment that are characteristic of a true Tennessean.
Anyone watch Coma on HBO last night?
Minneapolis, MN (LifeNews.com) -- After years of declining abortion totals, Minnesota saw its abortion figures jump five percent in 2006 compared with the 2005 numbers. Pro-life groups say Planned Parenthood is to blame because they are opening more facilities, but a representative of the abortion business calls that notion ridiculous.
Topeka, KS (LifeNews.com) -- Late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller may have violated a Kansas law saying that such abortions can only be done for legitimate health reasons and if two physicians sign off on them. Now that pro-abortion Attorney General Paul Morrison has charged him with 19 violations of the law, he's suing to overturn it.
As the first response to the new charges, attorneys for Tiller have filed a lawsuit claiming the Kansas law is unconstitutional. Tiller's attorneys argue that the provision of the law that requires two or more doctors to sign off on late-term abortions is invalid.
Ah, reporters. Terri wasn't PVS. She didn't "collapse." This would be extremely rare from any imaginable cause.
We have looked at three "explanations" in another thread -- well, two lame stories; the third is nothing but empty rhetoric. One, "sudden arrhythmia death syndrome," SADS. This is a catch-all category for "we don't know what happened" cases. Even in autopsy studies, the medics couldn't figure out the cause of death. 30 unexplained deaths per year for all U.S. females from ages 15 to 34. It calculated to 1 in 2,500,000. If anyone wants to bet against those odds, we will remind you why lotteries are a tax on the stupid.
Two, Seldane interaction. Even rarer, though we haven't finished the calculation. Seldane is an antihistamine introduced in 1985, useful for not causing drowsiness, and used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. It can cause serious or fatal heart arrhythmias in certain very rare cases involving liver disease or interaction with erythromycin or anti-fungal drugs. In twelve years of use by many millions of people, it was linked to 40 severe reactions (eight of them fatal). In the five years before Terri's injuries, only one problem was reported for the whole country. And in the 12 years, only one bad reaction was found at a normal dose with no other drug involved. (In contrast, plain old aspirin kills 500 people a year according to one estimate I found.) Seldane was replaced in 1997 by a chemical cousin that did not have the drug interactions. Terri had a prescription for Seldane at one point, but was no longer taking it at the time of her injury (according to Michael himself), nor taking any other medication that would have reacted with it. It's a fairy tale to blame Terri's cardiac arrest on drugs she wasn't taking -- especially when her injuries occurred during a big fight with Michael.
Third -- deny, deny, deny. No cause offered, just chant "you don't have any facts." The visitors deny that a nearly dead body on the hallway floor is evidence. But they are happy to believe millions-to-one fantasies about how she got there. That is obsession.
Domestic violence is the number one cause of death and injury to young women. That, of course, is the one thing that the visitors will not look at -- even though Terri is known to have suffered her injuries during a fight with Michael. The fight was so bad, a girl friend offered Terri shelter that night -- from Michael. Too bad Terri didn't go! A few hours later she was found on the hallway floor, all but dead. The only suspect is Michael. He lied about what happened and he has no alibi.
Todd Gitlin?! He was a leader in the New Left in the 1960s. Still at it :-) It’s a hoot when a lifelong leftist ideologue accuses anyone else of being a prisoner of ideology.
Now you listen here, God. We find your commandment "Thou shall not kill" to be unconstitutionally vague in its wording and too broad in application. Besides, you have no standing in this court. You can't just go around telling people not to kill babies. We are having all ten of your Commandments thrown out by the first judge we can find who takes bribes.
Getting injected with dead babies is a bit too cannibalistic for my tastes.
Libs think they can outvote God because He has only three votes, or one, depending...
I cannot think of any acts more Satanic than this, right out of the playbook, Evil for Dummies...
Don’t know if you saw this, for those who are interested in Duncan Hunter:
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
Refresh my memory. Didn’t the Nazis require three doctors to sign off on euthanasia?
"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."
I was reading ABC News', "Pulling the Plug: Ethicists Debate Ramirez Case", by Dan Childs, ABC News Medical Unit (June 28, 2007) and found it interesting how the defense is still up. No case is ever like Terri Schiavo's. There is always an alleged difference, with similarities downplayed or outright denied. Might that be because people are starting to realize that an innocent woman was wrongly starved and dehydrated to death, like Jesse Ramirez almost was?
We do have it right in our face that the law does not have true safeguards in place. Had the Ramirez family not stepped in, Jesse Ramirez would most likely not be with us today, let alone sitting up in his bed and interacting with people. It doesn't even matter if Rebecca Ramirez was basing her decision upon incomplete information the doctors provided. It shouldn't be that easy to make a mistake. After all, this type of mistake is beyond serious -- not an Oops! It is forever and someone is dead!
There are several issues at hand.
Childs writes, "The injuries Ramirez sustained in his accident were traumatic in nature, meaning that the shock of impact likely ripped apart some of the fragile connections in his brain, leading to his coma. "These injuries, on occasion, can heal to a certain extent, allowing the patient to recover functionality. This is far different from the damage caused by anoxia, in which a lack of oxygen to the brain causes irreparable brain damage. Those who suffer this type of damage, including Schiavo, have a much slimmer chance of ever regaining consciousness. "...................................................................
Eighteen days after his wife instructed doctors to withdraw food and water, an Arizona man has awakened from a coma. Jesse Ramirez Jr, 36, had suffered brain injuries in an accident on May 30. Only few days later, on June 8, his wife Rebecca had his feeding tubes removed. However, his parents and his sister fought this decision in the courts and on June 13 he was reconnected. Now he is sitting up in a hospital bed, giving a thumb-up sign to visitors and giving hugs and kisses. His doctors had predicted that he would be blind and would remain in a permanent vegetative state.
A spouse feuding with in-laws over a comatose patient -- it is difficult to avoid comparing the plight of Jesse Ramirez with Florida woman Terri Schiavo. However, in this case, Mrs Ramirez freely admits that her relationship with her husband was strained. In fact, it was during a fierce quarrel that their SUV overturned. She escaped with minor injuries and he ended up in a coma with a broken neck and head trauma. She told police that he had suspected her of infidelity and became enraged. As part of a settlement with her in-laws, Mrs Ramirez has transferred care of her husband to a court-appointed guardian. ~ USA Today, Jun 26
Actually, they were, and that film was based on the original notes of the Nazi interrogator. OUTSTANDING movie!!
The friends and family of Henry Crane, a UF chemistry senior, said he was always ready to help people.
Now, even on life support, he's still helping.
Crane, 21, was cycling on Archer Road near Shands at UF when a car struck him at about 9 a.m. Tuesday. The Clearwater native planned to pursue a graduate degree in sports management.
Henry's mother, LeeAnn Crane, said he was taken to Shands' Surgical Intensive Care Unit with severe head, brain and spinal injuries. As of Wednesday evening, Shands medical staff was arranging recipients for Crane's organs. Crane's family members said he would be taken off life support early this morning.
After the crisis over Terri Schiavo, Crane decided to create a living will at the age of 19. It was a comfort, Crane's mother said, because the family could follow his wishes exactly.
"Henry did not want to live in a body that didn't function," she said. "His life blessed those who knew him, and now he will bless those who receive his gifts of life."
His mother said the outpour of support from Crane's friends was overwhelming.................................
Outstanding movie is right, and available on DVD.
Canberra, Australia (LifeNews.com) -- New draft guidelines in Australia put together by a national health committee say that comatose and incapacitated patients like Terri Schiavo should not be denied food and water. The new guidelines are voluntary and are aimed at helping health care workers and families.
A committee of the National Health and Medical Research Council published the guidelines which say that medical personnel should presume that a patient wants food and water when their decision is unknown.
That was the problem in the Terri Schiavo case -- her family and former husband Michael disagreed about whether she would want nutrition provided. Courts ultimately sided with Michael and Terri died after a painful 13-day starvation and dehydration death.
The council also stressed the importance of communication between doctors and patients and families to help avoid disagreements.
According to a report in The Australian newspaper, the guidelines say that stopping food and water should only be considered when it is causing medical complications for the patient "such as respiratory infections because of food being breathed into the lungs."
The issue is "never whether the patient's life is worthwhile, but whether a treatment is worthwhile" the guidelines say................................
DRAFT guidelines intended to head off any repeat in Australia of the 2005 legal battle over the fate of US brain-damaged patient Terri Schiavo have been published by the nation's top health standards body.
The guidelines, compiled by a committee of the National Health and Medical Research Council, say there should be a presumption in favour of continuing feeding.
They stress the importance of communication between doctors and families to avoid disagreements.
Schiavo, who had been in a persistent vegetative state since 1990, hit world headlines in 2005 after her case was dragged through the US Congress and courts amid a bitter dispute between her husband and her Catholic parents over whether to withdraw her feeding tube.
She was eventually allowed to die in March 2005 after the US Supreme Court declined to intervene.
New Orleans, LA (LifeNews.com) -- Two nurses accused of euthanizing patients in the wake of Hurricane Katrina have seen the charges against them dropped by the district attorney in the case. Nurses Lori Budo and Cheri Landry were arrested along with physician Anna Pou on charges that they killed four patients. All three worked at New Orleans' Memorial Medical Center at the time of the hurricane.
The three were accused of killing as many as nine patients so they could relinquish their responsibility for patients and flee the hospital as conditions there deteriorated.
BRASILIA, July 4, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Brazilian university professor claimed that the practice of infanticide by indigenous tribes should be respected as a cultural practice, the Telegraph reports.
Dr. Erwin Frank, an anthropology professor at the Federal University of Roraima, Brazil, is quoted in the Telegraph as having defended the violent practice, saying, "This is their way of life and we should not judge them on the basis of our values. The difference between the cultures should be respected."
Pro-aborts have fallen into "the antis' trap" by "focusing on the abortion procedure itself"? Bean, that's called "informed consent," and your people fight that every step of the way. In actuality, pro-aborts run like a hemorrhage from discussions of the "abortion procedure itself."
And comparing pregnant mothers to slaves? As Bean confessed, maintaining that abortion brings "freedom and autonomy" is not just repulsive, it's disingenuous. As a saying goes, "Everyone who supported slavery was free. Everyone who supports abortion was born. That's how oppression works."
And I've heard them lately say more than the opposite, calling preborn babies freeloaders or parasites less than slaves, who don't even reciprocate for food and shelter.
Ottawa, Canada (LifeNews.com) -- A Canadian man who took his wife to an assisted suicide facility in Switzerland so she could kill herself will not be charged. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have cleared retired Anglican minister Eric MacDonald of any charges in connection with his wife's death.
MacDonald accompanied his wife Elizabeth to Zurich and she died in his arms on June 8 after taking a lethal cocktail of drugs to kill herself.
Because assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland and the death did not occur on Canadian soil, the RCMP determined no crime was committed. Had the assisted suicide occurred in Canada, those involved could have gone to jail for as much as 14 years.
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani appears to have flip-flopped on what he thinks about the Supreme Court potentially overturning its landmark Roe v. Wade abortion ruling. Giuliani hasn't suddenly become pro-life; instead, he told the Wall St. Journal he now won't answer the question of what he thinks.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal published over the weekend, Giuliani was asked: Roe v Wade, should it be overturned?
Giuliani demurred, saying, I don't answer that because I wouldn't want a judge to have to answer that."
The media’s covenant is to always say that her case was different which means that it was okay to murder her. It’s never okay to kill innocent people. Terri was alert and aware and they murdered her anyway. Judge Greer is going somewhere especially hot someday.
Proof that we don’t have to “settle.” Poll #’s just before the primaries in previous election:
Good point, as many fret that the bad guys are ahead on both sides of the aisle.
The rush is that people don’t want to pay the bills, maybe, or be inconvenienced. Noble reasons [/sarc]
If you listen to their rhetoric, the mission of the Conservative movement is to get big government off the peoples backs and out of their lives, live by what the framers of the Constitution intended, and help the least of us to enjoy the same liberties as the most of us.
Thats what they say they expect from our lawmakers and from our courts. And theyll tell you its the reason they get apoplectic about what they call activist judges.If we needed any more proof of their hypocrisy after the disgrace of the Terry Schiavo affair, it would be easy to find in the decisions of the Supreme Court session just ended.
The Supreme Court is supposed to be the last resort for the least of us, the one door always open to ordinary citizens seeking justice.
So consider how the Court ruled this term
As disturbing as Bush's reckless use of his executive authority is, it comes as no surprise. Preferential treatment for Scooter Libby is just the latest lawless act by an outlaw administration. Add it up: stealing the election in Florida; rigging the courts in the Terri Schiavo case; tapping phones without a court order; torturing prisoners; refusing to release names of visitors to the vice president's mansion; using quickly discarded political e-mails for official government business; and firing U.S. attorneys because they refused to perform political dirty tricks. This gang doesn't hesitate to break or abuse the law. We've never seen so much corruption from one administration.
In Terri Schiavo's case, the majority of people were not aware of all the facts nor the possibility that a conscious human being could be starved and dehydrated to death by a spouse, guardian, court, hospital or simply anyone. Even if one does not want to believe that Terri was conscious, Andrea Clark from Texas cannot be forgotten. She was indeed conscious, but the doctor and hospital felt it was within their rights to deem her futile and pull the plug. Perhaps if her case had been first, Terri would have had a chance.
Jesse Ramirez's family didn't agree with his wife's decision and sought to have his feeding tube replaced. Judge Katz granted the request, appointed a guardian and set up a hearing. This saved Jesse's life! Too bad Katz wasn't also the Schiavo judge. Perhaps the outcome would have been much different. Nevertheless, when did it become acceptable to starve and dehydrate people to death? How can anyone suggest that is a humane thing to do only to non-criminal humans? There is no logic.
The Schiavo and Ramirez cases are very similar in that they show us just how careless we have become with the lives of those who have been injured or fall ill.
The Terri Schiavo case was a wake up call!
Though the snooze button appears to have been hit, with people still under false beliefs that molded their opinions, the Ramirez case is a loud and clear alarm going off! A man with a chance to recover was nearly murdered by a society and its trend to be too ready to give up and pull the plug on others. What does that say about us as a society? Maybe it is time to do some serious soul searching, while we still have souls to search!
Maybe it is time to do some serious soul searching, while we still have souls to search!
For several weeks this spring, national attention was focused on a mother's struggle to prevent the Children's Hospital of Austin from withdrawing life support from her infant son. Emilio Gonzales was an 18-month-old boy who had Leigh's disease, a progressive and fatal neurometabolic disorder. He had been on life support in the intensive care unit for 5 months. The hospital had invoked the Texas Advance Directives Act, which authorized it to withdraw life support if an ethics committee had determined that further life support was medically inappropriate and provided the hospital gave the family 10 days' notice and attempted to transfer Emilio to an alternative provider. With the support of lawyers and a coalition of advocacy groups, Ms. Gonzales had successfully obtained extensions of the deadline, but Emilio died before the judge issued a final ruling on the case.
The Gonzales case is the most recent in a series of famous "futility" cases, including those of Helga Wanglie, Baby L, and Baby K. All are stories about families' insisting on the continued use of life-sustaining treatments that physicians consider to be medically inappropriate. Many of these cases are the product of a severe breakdown of trust in the relationship between the clinicians and the patient's family. Even in the best circumstances, physicians often communicate poorly, and this deficiency is exacerbated when the communication must occur across the gaps created by language, class, and culture. Improvement of physicians' communication and conflict-resolution skills would no doubt go a long way toward preventing such cases from occurring.
Thread by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh on someone not sitting still and accepting the "need" to harvest organs, albeit too late. Thanks, wagglebee, for the ping.
The mother of a San Luis Obispo man who died after an attempted organ donation at Sierra Vista Regional Medical Center last year claims she never gave hospital officials consent to take her son off life-support and was misinformed when agreeing to the organ harvest, according to a wrongful death lawsuit.
Rosa Navarro also alleges in her June 29 civil lawsuit that a transplant surgeon misrepresented himself as her sons doctor, an allegation the surgeons attorney strongly denies. She also said she agreed to the organ donation only because she believed her son had no chance of survival.
Wow, it's fairly easy to be overwhelmed or underwhelmed, but how often is someone simply whelmed?
Thanks for the ping to above article.
Several key events took place during those fourteen years that have forever changed the way Americans view abortion on demand. And we can thank the drive to pass the ban on partial-birth abortions for the change.
For the first time ever, major national newspapers began describing an abortion procedure. For many people, this was a revelation. Most Americans don't really think about what happens during an abortion procedureany abortion procedureand to have one particular procedure described so thoroughly was truly a coup of sorts.
No longer could your average American ignore the reality or the brutality of abortion.
Wichita, KS (LifeNews.com) -- The abortion center that houses the business of Kansas late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller was vandalized on Tuesday night. Tiller has made national headlines because he is the subject of 19 misdemeanor charges that he did illegal abortions and he could be headed to prison if convicted.
Apparently someone was able to get by the security cameras posted at Tiller's abortion facility and gain access to the roof of his building.
Once there, the vandals cut a hole in the roof and inserted a garden hose and eventually flooded the abortion center with water.
As disgusting as it is to watch the death culters around here try to justify euthanasia, it’s even more disgusting to see them justify butchering someone for spare body parts. I have a feeling that just a few weeks ago none of them would have objected to cutting open Jesse Ramirez.
The findings held regardless of whether the patient was treated with medication, psychotherapy, or both.
The results have an important bearing on the state of Oregon, the only one to allow assisted suicide. That's because virtually all of the patients who killed themselves with their doctor's help in 2006 did not receive any treatment for depression beforehand.
What they should have done is cut a hole in the roof, stick in a suction tube, and suck out all the contents.
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