Dingell's CAFE Klatsch

IBD Editorials ^ | 30 June 2007 | Staff

[Kitten Festival]

Energy Policy: MoveOn.org targets Michigan Democrat John Dingell for his reluctance to increase fuel economy standards. Maybe he knows higher standards won't promote energy independence or save the earth.

Rep. Dingell, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, has been protective of the auto industry and skeptical over the effectiveness of higher corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standards in fighting global warming.

He has resisted fighting climate change on the backs of a beleaguered U.S. auto industry, at least as long as countries like China and India are allowed to build cars and roads without any environmental restrictions. If there's to be job-killing pain, he wants everyone to share it.

[Kitten Festival]

Dingell gits relijin after Michigan's economy is threatened by environmental wackos.

[P-40]

CAFE standards prompt the auto industry to do just enough mileage adjustments to get by. I’d rather see the auto industry notice that high quality, high mileage cars sell well here because gas is expensive. Seems like the foreign car makers understand that concept pretty well.

[RedStateRocker]

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[norwaypinesavage]

CAFE equals ‘Blood for Oil’. Over 3000 people DIE every year due to riding in small cars forced by CAFE. Higher standards will cause even more deaths.

[GreyFriar]

My old Geo Storm got 33mpg driving around Wash DC in urban traffic using pure gasoline. After 15% ethanol was introduced, my mpg dropped to 29 for the same daily comute to work.

Democrapt genius: mandate ethanol which causes cars to get less mileage and raise the CAFE requiements for cars to get better mileage. screwing the public twice.

[P-40]

Then again, at least some of your money stayed in the U.S. after it was spent.

[Amalie]

After 15% ethanol was introduced, my mpg dropped to 29 for the same daily commute to work.

Ethanol may go down as one of the largest folly issues of this decade. The BTU content is less than gasoline, so all mileage will suffer accordingly. When we use it in auto racing, we normally do so in a supercharged/turbocharged environment for the most part because you are required to push so much fuel volume though the engine - in drag racing, it is about TWICE the amount gasoline would require. However, racing likes it because it does not easily detonate under compression or heat loads; for the rest of us, figure you will lose about 10% efficiency/economy for every 10% you put through your tank, as you need that much more FUEL to operate in the same horsepower environment. None of these idiots in Congress seem to understand that the mileage numbers they want to require of us, the US citizen, are already skewed by this. Of course, this doesn't matter to them; we pay for their travel and expenses....

[zot]

Thanks for the post. I agree that ethnol isn’t the answer. Maybe we should power cars with the bovine farts that are increasing global warming.

[SunkenCiv]

whoops!

MoveOn.org targets Dingell
planetgore.nationalreview.com | June 28, 2007 | Henry Payne
Posted on 06/28/2007 1:55:55 PM EDT by neverdem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857779/posts

[Tutle]

Apologies for dragging up an old thread, but I wanted to weigh in on the CAFE standards debate, an issue of great importance to me as I work with the the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers (AAM). Congress is wrong to think that is a good idea to impose mandates that will raise costs across the board and impose greater burdens on an industry that has been struggling for profits and to keep its workers employed in our shifting economy. The current legislation they are now trying to impose is so unrealistic that if every car sold was a hybrid – and if they completely stopped selling SUVs – we still couldn’t meet their standards. It’s rarely a good thing when government tries to force economic change, and this time is no different. Change can be a good thing and better for all of this, and so does the AAM, but that change should be in the best interest of all of us and not just of some disconnected Washington bureaucrats. I recommend checking out www.drivecongress.com to see some real numbers on this issue. Thanks.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks.