Posted on 07/01/2007 12:14:26 PM PDT by wagglebee
Sounds like a cool organization. There was another one I’ve heard of that frees sex slaves by paying for them. Their heart is in the right place, but I fear it may encourage more slavery, or that it won’t stop it like this one might help to do.
So, what’s your solution?
Come on wagglebee. I subscribe to libertarian principles, and I’m personally against all of those things. Your characterization is juvenile, ignorant and incredibly simplistic. Are you really that unable to think two steps beyond what you personally like? You may as well join the Taliban if your ability to engage intellectually is that limited.
Well gee.. outlaw sex slavery perhaps? With regards to enforcement, post 39 details an interesting organization that I would wholeheartedly support.
Yeah— these people get put in JAIL, not paid off! I was in tears every time they showed films of the little girls that they found new homes for...and cried and rejoiced to see arrest videos of corrupt Western sex predators. YESSSS!! And to think, if it weren’t for this one group of people making a difference, nobody would do a thing about it. It’s a great group, I’m telling you. As soon as I get more money, I’m going to donate big-time.
This is a great report on the affects of legalized prostitution. Trafficing has only expanded in countries where it is legalized. It addresses all arguments regarding prostitution.
It does need Adobe Reader.
http://action.web.ca/home/catw/attach/handbook.pdf
Am I correct in thinking that you think that prostitutes should be arrested?
Or do you think that maybe the prospect of being arrested helps keep the women in bondage?
So do you support legalizing Prostitution?
Now, I’m not trying to start an argument, but I’m wondering how many who cite the “libertarian” position on this thread are women. Identify your gender, and if you are a man, your outlook on sexual matters may be very different.
The only thing I can think of that you might relate to is to ask yourself how you would feel if you were a guy in prison who had just been gang-raped and overpowered by far superior strength.. How would you feel about it?
I can tell you, as a woman, that women aren’t built that way, to personally welcome multiple partners on a daily basis for sex. It is not what women/girls want, by their normal nature.
So I suspect that drugs, forced conditions of whatever kind, are at the root of women who sell their bodies for the most part. And there is terror in their hearts until their souls are destroyed.
Just one woman’s opinion.
It depends on the situation.
Or do you think that maybe the prospect of being arrested helps keep the women in bondage?
No.
So do you support legalizing Prostitution?
No.
From the State Department's website:
http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2004/May/12-381449.html
Fighting Human Trafficking Inside the United StatesAccomplishments in preventing trafficking in persons
According to U.S. government estimates, about 800,000 to 900,000 men, women and children are trafficked each year across international borders worldwide for sex and other purposes; approximately 18,000 to 20,000 of those victims are trafficked into the United States itself.
What figures do YOU find that show those to be overstated?
That would make abortion a civil wrong. If alcohol abuse by a pregnant woman can be considered child abuse, willfully terminating a developing fetus is likewise.
The mother's "right" to chose comes when she choose her partner and her decision to use or not use birth control.
Choose to kill her developing child imposes on the rights of that child.
A premature infant is not called a fetus when it is in the hospital and a partially delivered infant is not called a "baby" by those who support the medical procedure by which it is legal to suck the brains out of that partially delivered infant.
So maybe "where your nose begins" still excludes some protections.
You would be mistaken if you think that no one illegally makes moonshine anymore even though alcohol is legal.
The ATF will still crack your skull if you try it. You have to pay "your fair share" of taxes. And we all know that everyone pays what they are supposed to, right?
The liberaltarian position seems to be to legalize every morally objectionable thing that exists based on the notion that this will make people stop doing it.
And how many of these women are working at the legal brothels in NV?
Prostitution isn't always a "victimless crime." Quite often, it's the laws that make the woman even more of a victim.
Mark
He repeatedly states that he doesn’t believe the numbers. I cited the State Department’s own figures.
Waiting. Waiting...
Don’t “ask” the prostitutes if they do so under threats of violence against their families back home. They don’t “tell”.
How many are working illegally as prostitutes in Nevada?
Prostitution is legal there on a community by community basis for cities under 400,000 people. So while Vegas is known as “sin city” and prostitutes are to be found everywhere, they are still working illegally rather than setting up shop up the road in the licensed industry.
And yes they do bust up the vice trade in Vegas.
Why don’t you think that the prospect of being arrested and thrown into prison deters these prostitutes from trying to escape? That is certainly something that their owners threaten them with. Where can the women run too?
Prostitution is legal there on a community by community basis for cities under 400,000 people. So while Vegas is known as “sin city” and prostitutes are to be found everywhere, they are still working illegally rather than setting up shop up the road in the licensed industry.
And yes they do bust up the vice trade in Vegas.
Of course they "bust up the vice trade in Vegas." It's illegal in Clark county. There's a simple reason that illegal prostitution is flourishing in Vegas... There's tremendous demand for prostitutes IN Vegas, and quite frankly, for many people it's simply too difficult and expensive for them to go outside the county limits to the legal brothels.
I've heard that it's 45 minutes to an hour drive from a hotel on the strip to one of the legal brothels. That means if you're visiting, you need to rent a car, or hire a cab or limo to drive you, and it can cost upwards of $100, before ever getting to the brothel. Some of the brothels offer limo service, but then they'll tack on the trip fee to your visit...
To put it bluntly, a horny guy's not going to go to the effort to find a legal prostitute when he can get an illegal one for less effort. Again, it's the laws that drive the illegal trade.
Mark
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