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ACLU sues city over Jesus painting (Slidell, Louisiana)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/3/07 | Michael Kunzelman - ap

Posted on 07/03/2007 4:58:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

NEW ORLEANS - The American Civil Liberties Union sued the city of Slidell on Tuesday for displaying a painting of Jesus in a courthouse lobby, saying it violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

The ACLU sued after the Slidell City Court refused to voluntarily remove the picture and a message below it that reads: "To Know Peace, Obey These Laws." The ACLU says the portrait — an image of Jesus presenting the New Testament — is a religious icon of the Eastern Orthodox branch of Christianity.

"We did not file this lawsuit because the ACLU is anti-religion ... We did file this lawsuit because we believe this display is clearly in violation of the law," said Vincent Booth, president and acting executive director of the Louisiana ACLU chapter.

The suit was filed on behalf of an unidentified person who complained to the ACLU about the picture. Named as defendants were the city of Slidell, St. Tammany Parish and City Judge James Lamz. St. Tammany Parish is being sued because it partially funds the court, the ACLU said.

On Saturday, Lamz said the picture would stay up unless a federal judge ordered it removed. He said he didn't believe the portrait violates the Constitution, but the issue should be decided in federal court.

Lamz could not comment Tuesday because of the pending litigation, his office said.

Before refusing to take the painting down, Lamz consulted Douglas Laycock, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School who has argued before the Supreme Court.

Laycock said he told Lamz that the legal issues in the case aren't clear-cut and could set legal precedent.

"I don't know how far the two sides will want to push things," Laycock added.

The painting has been on display at the courthouse for nearly a decade and hadn't provoked any complaints prior to the ACLU's recent objections, said Michael Johnson, senior legal counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian civil rights group representing the city and parish.

Johnson, whose group is often at odds with the ACLU, said the painting sends an inclusive message of equal justice under the law. He said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that similar displays in public forums are constitutional.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: aclu; churchandstate; jesus; painting; slidell; sues

A painting of Jesus hanging in Slidell City Court house lobby violates a constitutionally mandated separation of church and state Tuesday July 3, 2007 in Slidell, La. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday. (AP Photo/Judi Bottoni)


1 posted on 07/03/2007 4:58:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
We did not file this lawsuit because the ACLU is anti-religion ... We did file this lawsuit because we believe this display is clearly in violation of the law," said Vincent Booth, president and acting executive director of the Louisiana ACLU chapter.

The ACLU isn't anti religion. They're anti-Christian.

The suit was filed on behalf of an unidentified person who complained to the ACLU about the picture. Named as defendants were the city of Slidell, St. Tammany Parish and City Judge James Lamz. St. Tammany Parish is being sued because it partially funds the court, the ACLU said.

These lawsuits where the plaintiff is unidentified are BS. Taxpayers should know the name of their accuser, especially when the tax-exempt ACLU is using him as recruit.

2 posted on 07/03/2007 5:04:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God! Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: NormsRevenge

AP is going to have to highlight that line in the Constitution.

Enforcing the atheist worldview without a god is embracing a religion of faith.

Agnostics are the ones who say “how can you know” and would not raise an issue about multiple religious figures appearing in public.


3 posted on 07/03/2007 5:05:42 PM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: NormsRevenge

help help i’m being repressed. yep that Jesus pic is violating my rights.


4 posted on 07/03/2007 5:06:02 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In order to win their case, the ACLU will have to prove that it is really the Christ, Lord Jesus who is depicted in that painting.

. . . and the government shall be upon His shoulders . . .

5 posted on 07/03/2007 5:11:24 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: Hoodat

“In order to win their case, the ACLU will have to prove that it is really the Christ, Lord Jesus who is depicted in that painting.”

They will also have to prove that He rose from the dead.


6 posted on 07/03/2007 5:17:46 PM PDT by 353FMG (Michael Savage is standing on my left..)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We did not file this lawsuit because the ACLU is anti-religion

Barbra Striesand!

7 posted on 07/03/2007 5:20:24 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NormsRevenge
The ACLU represents the evil pagans who will go as far as they can to "correct" Christians who refuse to Abide and Obey the secular State.


ACLU us unleashing hate against Christians

8 posted on 07/03/2007 5:21:42 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: NormsRevenge

The ACLU filed the lawsuit because congress funds their lawsuits against religion.


9 posted on 07/03/2007 5:27:30 PM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Background:

06/21/07 - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1854193/posts

06/27/07 - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857232/posts


10 posted on 07/03/2007 5:33:13 PM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge
Well, remove the painting from the frame.

Then re-hang the frame.

The ACLU is not asking for the frame to be removed.

All will recall why the frame has no painting.

11 posted on 07/03/2007 5:38:19 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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I like it, I like it!

Jesus loves them, they hate Jesus. Seems like we have heard that before.


12 posted on 07/03/2007 5:40:42 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: NormsRevenge

2 words.

Foot baths.


13 posted on 07/03/2007 5:44:23 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: upchuck; BBell

Thanks for the links and threads!


14 posted on 07/03/2007 5:51:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Where was the ACLU during Katrina?

Jesus was in Slidell, even though the ACLU wasn’t.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 5:53:55 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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To: NormsRevenge

16 posted on 07/03/2007 5:57:56 PM PDT by Gritty (Nobody fights for the flag of hedonism, not even the hedonists themselves. - Paul Belien)
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To: NormsRevenge

When is somebody going to have the stones to sue the ACLU?


17 posted on 07/03/2007 5:59:53 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: NormsRevenge

ACLU sues city over Jesus painting (Slidell, Louisiana)but defends foot baths for muzzies!!!!


18 posted on 07/03/2007 6:17:21 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Hacksaw

Ironic they are having a “separation of church and state” suit about a painting in SAINT Tammany Parish.

Retarded.


19 posted on 07/03/2007 6:30:52 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ve had enough of being politically correct.

I should sit outside the CAIR office during hours, wearing my Mecca forecast T-shirt.


20 posted on 07/03/2007 6:32:11 PM PDT by wastedyears (Cloture? Nuts.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Get over it ACLU. You are not like you think the law of the land. Anyone ready for defunding these anti-American scumbags.

The pic should remain.


21 posted on 07/03/2007 6:38:23 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: NormsRevenge
When did Jesus pose for that? Make the ACLU Prove it is Jesus!

On a different note, on what basis is it against the law to hang pictures of people in the Court House?

22 posted on 07/03/2007 6:42:26 PM PDT by eyedigress (Little Johnny Edwards seems to have an image problem)
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To: NormsRevenge
Picture of Jesus staying in courthouse

By Erik Sanzenbach
Monday, July 2, 2007 9:27 AM CDT
St. Tammany News

Slidell City Court judge, city officials tell ACLU: File your lawsuit

23 posted on 07/03/2007 7:00:38 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's not Jesus and the ACLU is certainly not a religious authority with competency to determine that it is.

I'm tired of the godless pukes at the ACLU telling me what to believe. Screw them.

24 posted on 07/03/2007 7:04:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NormsRevenge

You’re welcome!

I’ve been to Slidel. Nice town.

Here’s hoping the ACLU looses.


25 posted on 07/03/2007 7:25:24 PM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks for post. This wasn’t in todays paper but will probably be in tomorrows. It would be nice if these ACLU lawyers got lost in the bayou on their way to the courthouse.
26 posted on 07/03/2007 10:31:51 PM PDT by BBell
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Thanks for the post. This wasn’t in todays paper but will probably be in tomorrows. It would be nice if these ACLU lawyers got lost in the bayou on their way to the courthouse.
27 posted on 07/03/2007 10:32:20 PM PDT by BBell
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To: NormsRevenge

I just checked the local websight. It made it.

http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007/07/aclu_sues_to_remove_jesus_pict.html


28 posted on 07/03/2007 10:36:08 PM PDT by BBell
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To: 353FMG

In this case....going up against Jesus in Louisiana...is kinda like getting caught in bed with a 15-year old girl. The locals just ain’t going to cooperate and the state court system will readily dampen the ACLU spirits. It will simply tighten the locals determination on this....with crosses and Jesus pictures erected on every street corner.


29 posted on 07/03/2007 10:39:13 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Buddy B
Well, remove the painting from the frame. Then re-hang the frame.

Better yet, re-hang the frame with a white canvas over it that says:

"We're hanging this frame because it's illegal to hang the bastards who made us take down the painting."

30 posted on 07/03/2007 10:55:08 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm sure the ACLU will have no qualms with having a foot bath for Muslims replacing the painting.
31 posted on 07/03/2007 11:08:24 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
[”We did not file this lawsuit because the ACLU is anti-religion ... We did file this lawsuit because we believe this display is clearly in violation of the law,” said...]

The American communist and liberals united against God,His Christ, Christians and Americans Constitution rights are once again using taxpayers monies to violate the first amendment rights of Christians and our Christ and Saviour.

32 posted on 07/04/2007 7:41:09 AM PDT by ohhhh (Republicans are now liberals, Democrats are Marxists. Lord, help conservatives.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ever since Katrina, New Orleans scum has been infiltrating Slidell.


33 posted on 07/04/2007 12:05:59 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, as a fully equipped redheaded Irishwoman who is an American citizen, I’m ready to place a curse on the ACLU that would make the wildmen of County Donegal tremble.


34 posted on 07/04/2007 12:08:32 PM PDT by Maeve (Do you have supplies for an extended emergency? Be prepared! Pray!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course they are offended by a painting of Jesus, the overwhelming majority of ACLU Loy-ahs are Jooz


35 posted on 07/05/2007 11:13:26 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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