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Cleric: 'Al-Qa'eda Leader Told Me Of Bomb Plot' (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-2-2007 | Nicole Martin - Sophie Borland

Posted on 07/03/2007 7:13:48 PM PDT by blam

Cleric: 'Al-Qa'eda leader told me of bomb plot'

By Nicole Martin and Sophie Borland
Last Updated: 2:52am BST 04/07/2007

A British cleric in Baghdad last night claimed that an al-Qa'eda leader warned him that "the people who cure you would kill you" months before the terrorist bomb plots in Glasgow and London.

Canon Andrew White, who runs the Iraqi capital's only Anglican parish, claimed that he met an unnamed al-Qa'eda leader on the sidelines of a religious reconciliation meeting in Amman, Jordan.

"He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British," Canon White said. "He said the people who cure you would kill you."

Canon White claimed that he had passed on a general warning, but not the specific words, to an official at the Foreign Office in mid-April.

The Foreign Office said last night that "the official in question does not recall the conversation".

Canon White said he did not learn the identity of the man until after the meeting, and would not disclose it now.

However, he added: "I met the Devil that day."

Following the arrests of NHS workers, hospitals have been given new guidance for carrying out police checks on overseas doctors.

The NHS Employers' Organisation said that due to the constant movement of junior doctors around the country, regular police checks were essential.

The organisation urged hospitals to carry out checks in doctors' home countries and repeat this as "good practice" every three years.

Thousands of doctors from overseas will take up the new junior posts this August.

However, the organisation also warned trusts not to target doctors because of their religion or belief.

Sian Thomas, its deputy director, said: "It is good practice for an employer to carry out a Criminal Records Bureau check - even if an applicant claims never to have lived in the UK - and a police check in that person's country of origin."

Earlier, the Department of Health had vigorously defended its procedure for vetting doctors amid concerns that one of the suspects was a locum.

Ms Thomas said she wanted to reassure the public that there were "thorough and robust checks".

But she said that the checks were designed to test "their merits to do the job they do", rather than their political or extremist affiliations. She said she did not believe that it was the health service's duty to check for such connections.

Agencies supplying locums to the health service are expected to carry out pre-employment checks on recruits before they take them on their books.

They should verify their identify, check their medical qualifications and carry out annual criminal record checks to ensure that they are suitable for temporary positions.

NHS hospital trusts should make sure that agencies have conducted all the necessary checks before the locum is permitted to work.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedauk; bomb; cleric; gla; haymarketcarbombs; islam; plot; uk

1 posted on 07/03/2007 7:13:49 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

And you thought that gas station owner was diabolical.


2 posted on 07/03/2007 7:19:26 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: blam
I know I’m looking forward with even more enthusiasm to H!’s health care plan here in the US.
3 posted on 07/03/2007 7:21:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: blam

However, the organisation also warned trusts not to target doctors because of their religion or belief.

Heavens, no! That would make too much sense.


4 posted on 07/03/2007 7:21:58 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: blam; Cindy

one more ping.


5 posted on 07/03/2007 7:25:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: rbg81
How exactly would you target a muslim extremist without looking at their religion or beliefs?

No, really, I want that dipstick to answer me.

6 posted on 07/03/2007 7:27:26 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: blam

Many doctor appointments expected to be cancelled, and unemployment claims for doctors in Britain are expected to increase next week.


7 posted on 07/03/2007 7:27:56 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: blam

Just out of curiosity, how on earth would the NHS run background checks on these foreign doctors? They are totally unqualified to do a check that could possibly catch someone like the doctors recently arrested.

The only possible way to prevent something like this happening again would be—not to hire Muslim doctors. Or for the intelligence agencies to pick up on them by monitoring all their phone calls and meetings, etc.

But the more Muslims you have running around, the harder that will be to do. There’s just not enough manpower to watch them all, especially since they are instructed not to profile or to be seen watching them.


8 posted on 07/03/2007 7:33:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam
Once again, where is the outrage from the muslim community? Clearly these medical people were peace loving citizens who just wanted to live as British citizens. </sarcasm>
Somehow the non-muslim world needs to wake up and realize that these extremest brainwashed murderers are living amongst us and just waiting for the opportunity to destroy our civilization.
9 posted on 07/03/2007 7:37:28 PM PDT by FractalMan
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To: blam
And he's just thinking to mention it now?!?!?
10 posted on 07/03/2007 7:38:36 PM PDT by null and void (A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
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To: Cicero

Drain the swamp.


11 posted on 07/03/2007 7:40:39 PM PDT by null and void (A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
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To: FractalMan

Foreign docs is a pet peeve of mine. Why do we import people for these high paying positions. Let’s op;en more med schools and train our own.


12 posted on 07/03/2007 7:41:59 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: blam
So aiding and abetting is in order?
13 posted on 07/03/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: ClaireSolt
The AMA restricts the number of doctors we can train in the US to keep the price up...
14 posted on 07/03/2007 8:00:19 PM PDT by null and void (A large gov't agency is more expensive than a smaller agency with the same mission, yet does less)
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To: null and void

I’m guessing this is a fake “see, we *do* police our own” testimonial.


15 posted on 07/03/2007 8:37:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: blam

Not sure I believe this,...but if true,...so much for the operation being a little locally conceived one...


16 posted on 07/03/2007 9:02:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: blam; TexKat
From the long thread and post #1941 of Texkat's

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Bilal Abdulla : Mystery man 'who hated the West's crusade'

To his hospital colleagues, Bilal Abdulla was a mystery man who seemed to lack interest in being a doctor.

His devotion to Islam always came first and he would disappear for long periods during the working day to pray or to log on to Arabic websites.

He told fellow staff nothing of his previous life in Iraq, claiming instead that he was Jordanian.

But yesterday suspicions were growing that he had direct links to Al Qaeda and had formed a terror cell inside the NHS.

Shiraz Maher, who knows the doctor well, told Sky News: "He was very angry about the West, particularly Britain and America and the invasion of Iraq.

"He saw it as the classic idea of a crusader war engineered by the West to impose Western views on an Islamic country.'

It was claimed yesterday that Abdulla was recruited by Al Qaeda in Iraq and ordered to travel to Britain.

Abdulla, who studied medicine in Baghdad, came from a family of Wahabist Muslims, an ultraconservative form of Islam that promotes Sharia law.

17 posted on 07/03/2007 9:19:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“The overseas-trained doctors who work in our system are very good and every day they save the lives of Queenslanders, and without them we wouldn’t have a health system,” Mr Beattie said.

AMA statement

The Australian Medical Association (AMA) has itself stepped in to urge people not be afraid of overseas-trained doctors.

AMA president Dr Rosanna Capolingua today defended the recruitment of internationally trained doctors to Australia, saying they were an invaluable part of the health system.

She said she understood there might be some anxiety about seeing foreign doctors following the questioning of two overseas-trained doctors in Australia over the thwarted terror attacks in London and Glasgow.

“It is a natural feeling for people to feel disturbed about what has happened and I am sure Australians, particularly ones who are just encountering an overseas-trained doctor and don’t have a relationship with them, that they will feel a little anxious,” Dr Capolingua told reporters in Adelaide.

“Overseas-trained doctors have been an essential part of our workforce for many years.

“I don’t want patients to be frightened to see their doctor.”

http://www.worldnewsaustralia.com.au/region.php?id=138180&region=7

Well ya’ll just go ahead, I’ll just stick with my American doctors.


18 posted on 07/03/2007 9:22:55 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: All
The long thread:

Burning Car In Airport Terminal (Glasgow)

19 posted on 07/03/2007 9:23:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Al Qaeda's chilling warning: 'Those who cure you will kill you'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860558/posts

20 posted on 07/03/2007 9:25:17 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: TexKat

Sounds like Political Correctness to me!


21 posted on 07/03/2007 9:25:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: blam; TexKat; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; ...
From the Blogosphere (CQ):

CBS: Attacks An Al-Qaeda Sleeper Operation

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Why physicians? The British had a fast-track entry program to get doctors into the country from abroad. Does that sound familiar? The US had a similar system for students before 9/11.

This tells us that the jihad in Iraq presents a direct threat to the West, and that it didn't begin with the invasion -- and the invasion didn't entirely stop it, either. Zarqawi had set up shop in Iraq before the Americans arrived with the complicity of the Iraqi government and ramped up his organization in the aftermath of the invasion. He had always threatened to reach outside of Iraq with AQ-Iraq, and almost a year after reaching room temperature, he almost succeeded.

This should make it official -- Iraq is a center in the war against radical Islamist terrorism.

People can debate whether it would have been so absent an American invasion honestly and with evidence to support either position, but none can escape the fact that al-Qaeda operates in Iraq and that they have used that base to attack the West at home. They failed, which gives us optimism that we can beat them both at home and in Iraq, but it doesn't negate the threat.

22 posted on 07/03/2007 11:16:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: blam

“The organisation urged hospitals to carry out checks in doctors’ home countries and repeat this as “good practice” every three years.

However, the organisation also warned trusts not to target doctors because of their religion or belief.”
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The UK is just as PC as we are...and it will kill us both in the end. Fools all.


23 posted on 07/03/2007 11:20:33 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

AL-Qaeda's Abu Musab al-Zarqawi may have ordered the bombers to go to Britain as a 'sleeper cell'

MI5 knew four of the bomb plotters

As many as four of the NHS terror cell suspects were already known to security services, it emerged last night.

Reports in the U.S. yesterday said key members of the NHS cell were recruited more than two years ago by terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in Iraq last year.

In an extraordinary piece of advance planning - a trademark of Al Qaeda - they were sent to Britain as 'sleepers' to await orders.

Zarqawi, who became head of Al Qaeda in Iraq and personally beheaded British hostage Kenneth Bigley, wanted men of an entirely different profile to the 'homegrown' July 7 bombers.

The reports came as investigators focused on Dr Bilal Abdulla, one of seven men and a woman under arrest. He was one of the two men who drove a blazing Jeep into an entrance of Glasgow Airport on Saturday.

Bilal Abdulla has been transferred to Paddington Green high-security prison in London as the investigation continues

The 28-year-old, the son of a leading Iraqi rheumatologist, arrived in Britain last August and took a job at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley.

In Iraq he was a member of the extreme Sunni Wahabist sect, which is aligned with Al Qaeda. Fellow medical students in Baghdad described him as 'deeply religious' with 'extreme views of Islam'.

Dr Abdulla, who was under investigation at the hospital because of his use of radical websites while on duty, lived in London for a time in 2003 before returning to Baghdad to complete his studies.

Investigators are trying to establish his contacts in London and whether he was a visitor to the Finsbury Park mosque, which has been linked to other Al Qaeda attacks.

more...

24 posted on 07/03/2007 11:33:56 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: blam; TexKat; MizSterious; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; Seadog Bytes; SandRat; Dog; ...
Canon Andrew White, who runs the Iraqi capital's only Anglican parish, claimed that he met an unnamed al-Qa'eda leader on the sidelines of a religious reconciliation meeting in Amman, Jordan.

"He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British," Canon White said. "He said the people who cure you would kill you."

Maybe this is why Michael Moore is pushing socialized medicine to the Islamofascist Doctors can inject their patients with deadly contagious diseases or deadly substances.

UK's new left wing and whining pussy Prime Minister Brown, doesn't want the terrorists called or labeled Muslims, and he doesn't want the power that Tony Blair had.

Our cousins across the pond on the old Sod are fading fast into the sunset of history. PCism is killing them with their socialized medicine.

If we elect the Hildebea$t or O$amo/Obamo to punish republicans in 2008, we can kiss this country good bye along with the UK and Europe.

25 posted on 07/04/2007 6:42:49 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: Grampa Dave

I heard that over breakfast on Fox News this morning. Absolutely chilling, and it’s something I think we should all take seriously. In a recent issue of Human Events, Jed Babbin writes that we should LISTEN to the words of our enemies. He gives some very good examples of why we should have, and how we didn’t. This isn’t about believing the lies they throw around when “negotiating,” but it’s about what they think of us, and what they want to accomplish—namely, our total subjugation, or failing that, our demise, preferably accompanied by a lot of pain.


26 posted on 07/04/2007 8:00:59 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Grampa Dave; blam; TexKat; MizSterious; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ASA Vet; Seadog Bytes; SandRat
So.....sleeper cells in the British NHS now. The Brits caught six or eight but how many others might there be?

Had any of the car bombs been successful, the casualties would flooded the local hospitals to be cared for by a 'second team'. The terrorists (and the MSM) thrive on body counts.

Just a thought....
27 posted on 07/04/2007 9:36:33 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

This is looking like a big and very dangerous operation by these Islamofascist Muslim doctors.


28 posted on 07/04/2007 9:59:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: MizSterious

It looks like you and I were justified to be concerned about treatment any patient got from the Muslim Islamofascists playing Doctor in the UK.


29 posted on 07/04/2007 10:05:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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To: blam; TexKat; MizSterious; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Shermy; Dog; Dog Gone; Cindy; kcvl; SandRat; ...

Thanks to TexKat, we can read this chilling report.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,22020874-952,00.html

Ringleader ‘Al-Qaeda sleeper’

Paul Kent
July 05, 2007 12:00am

THE alleged ringleader of the British bomb plot linked to the doctor arrested in Brisbane was a “sleeper” sent to Britain to await orders from Al-Qaeda, according to US reports.

As MI5 chiefs feared more terrorist sleeper cells were in Britain, the revelation of a possible Al-Qaeda link has thrown open the possibility that sleeper cells are also hibernating in Australia awaiting orders to kill and maim civilians.
“There are genuine concerns that the cell which was broken up in the past few days was not a one-off and that there are others out there plotting mass murder,” a British security source said yesterday.

“The worrying truth is, we don’t know how many are out there.”

It is believed alleged ringleader Mohammed Asha, who was arrested on Sunday, was sent to Britain two years ago as part of Al-Qaeda’s long-term plan to bring terror to the UK.

Fears of sleeper cells surfaced as it emerged that as many as four of the alleged terrorists arrested were known to British intelligence but were regarded as low priority.

At least one had featured in a surveillance operation, although there had been no suggestion any of the suspects were planning the failed bomb attacks in London and Glasgow.

US reports say that key members of the NHS cell were recruited two years ago by terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in an extraordinary piece of advanced planning.

Al-Zarqawi was killed in Iraq last year.

His plan was to have sleepers in place who had entirely different profiles to the “homegrown” July 7 bombers in London two years ago.

And it emerged last night that the last Anglican vicar in Baghdad, Canon Andrew White, was approached in mid-April by

an Iraqi Al-Qaeda leader

who “talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans”.


30 posted on 07/04/2007 10:10:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Why do liberals thrive on bad news for America?)
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