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Proposed “Safety” Regulations Would Dry Up Ammunition Sales
NRA-ILA ^ | July 03, 2007 | NRA-ILA

Posted on 07/04/2007 6:53:08 PM PDT by skimbell

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has proposed new rules that would have a dramatic effect on the storage and transportation of ammunition and handloading components such as primers or black and smokeless powder. The proposed rule indiscriminately treats ammunition, powder and primers as “explosives.” Among many other provisions, the proposed rule would: Prohibit possession of firearms in commercial “facilities containing explosives”—an obvious problem for your local gun store. Prohibit delivery drivers from leaving explosives unattended

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; madness; secondamendment
Here we go again...
1 posted on 07/04/2007 6:53:13 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: skimbell

BLOAT


2 posted on 07/04/2007 6:56:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: All

They just won’t quit until they have our guns. A page from the Communist Manifesto?


3 posted on 07/04/2007 6:58:24 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: skimbell
Typical liberal Democrat technique....if they can’t pass legislation openly thru the House or Senate, they sneak it through EPA or OSHA...both of which are bloated governmental agencies that contradict common sense and business by legislation and rules.
4 posted on 07/04/2007 6:59:13 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: skimbell

Get ready for the media counter-spin: “NRA OPPOSES RESTRICTIONS ON EXPLOSIVES!!!” We’ve seen this before...


5 posted on 07/04/2007 7:00:03 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: skimbell

This is very reminscent of the way the anti-gunners did it in Massachusetts; they couldn’t get gun prohibitions through the legislature, so the Attorney General’s Office, under the corrupt and amoral leadership of Scott Harshbarger and Tom Reilly, unilaterally enacted “safety regulations” which effectively barred the sale of most handguns throughout the Commonwealth. Except Smith and Wesson’s products, of coure; a local industry, with a huge payroll and hefty tax bill. Soviet-style corruption, to which the people of the state turn a blind eye, since corruption is perfectly fine with the Left, provided it’s Leftist corruption.


6 posted on 07/04/2007 7:05:01 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: skimbell

The fascists are working tirelessly to undermine the very pillars of our freedom.


7 posted on 07/04/2007 7:05:03 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: skimbell

Technically a gas can filled with fuel falls into this category too. I guess we won’t be able to keep a can around for the lawn mower either.

What a bunch of liberal, gun grabbing bullshit


8 posted on 07/04/2007 7:05:21 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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To: skimbell
Here we go again...

Never forget, the function of government is to govern.

9 posted on 07/04/2007 7:07:43 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: skimbell
OSHA-2007-0032 - Google Search

Results about 98...

10 posted on 07/04/2007 7:15:37 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Eagle Eye

This was your last comment to me on this subject. Would you care to continue discussing it?
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To: B4Ranch
Try reading the OSHA proposal instead of the bs article.

This actually seems a smart and good thing.

Almost every phase of explosive industry is already regulated by someone somewhere; here OSHA simply tries to eliminate redundancy, achieve consistency, and update obsolete regs.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860041/posts?page=47#47


11 posted on 07/04/2007 7:16:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: skimbell

So, how do we stop this crap? If we can’t stop it, how do gun owners get around it?


12 posted on 07/04/2007 7:21:53 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Buddy B
Regulations.gov - Docket Details:
Bookmark Icon: OSHA-2007-0032
Title: EXPLOSIVES

What we have here is the online public comments web page.

Your Name, City, State, ZIP Code are there for all to see..

Interesting .gov web page?????

13 posted on 07/04/2007 7:40:49 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I commented in another thread earlier today that we need to pull a page from the lib's book and have our conservative representatives continually propose legislation aimed at reinforcing gun rights. Every time they knock a proposed bill down our reps need to submit another one. That's how they're doing it to us.

We beat an attempt to grab our guns and think it OK. They just come up with another pile of shit the next day and it starts over.

On this regulation, assuming that it passes which I doubt, I'd guess that we'd need stores that specialized in ammunition sales. Probably be few and far between but where there's a demand...

14 posted on 07/04/2007 7:44:41 PM PDT by skimbell (Conservatism Works)
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To: SpaceBar
The fascists TRAITORS are working tirelessly to undermine the very pillars of our freedom.

There, fixed.

15 posted on 07/04/2007 7:47:09 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: skimbell

At least we have a Republican in the White House!

Whew! [/sarc]


16 posted on 07/04/2007 8:15:59 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: skimbell

If they can’t ban guns, they will make them obsolete by rstricting the components.


17 posted on 07/04/2007 11:03:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Buddy B

Bump to stop them from taking my Constitutional rights away.... AGAIN!


18 posted on 07/05/2007 12:04:44 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: unixfox
The fascists, communist, rhino TRAITORS are working tirelessly to undermine the very pillars of our freedom.

I wonder how the 12 to 29 million illegals aliens feel about this subject. Well, that is the problem because they don't care about their fellow American citizen.

These newbie don't understand our constitution so they can be ruled by the traitors and that is this one reason why their is no boarder control.

19 posted on 07/05/2007 12:21:04 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
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To: B4Ranch
Almost every phase of explosive industry is already regulated by someone somewhere; here OSHA simply tries to eliminate redundancy, achieve consistency, and update obsolete regs.

From OSHA site link:

Issue #4: OSHA seeks specific comments on the impact proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii) would have on the storage and retail sale of small arms ammunition, small arms primers, and smokeless propellants. Do open flames, matches, or spark producing devices create a hazard when located within 50 feet of small arms ammunition, small arms primers, or smokeless propellants, or facilities containing these products? Can employers involved in the storage or retail sale of small arms ammunition, small arms primers, or smokeless propellants prevent all open flames, matches, or spark producing devices from coming within 50 feet of these products or facilities containing these products? If not, why not? Should proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii) use a protective distance other than 50 feet and, if so, what distance should it be and why? Should OSHA exclude small arms ammunition, small arms primers, and smokeless propellants from the requirements of proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii)?
It sounds like they're still trying to make up their minds exactly what they want to do.
20 posted on 07/05/2007 12:57:24 AM PDT by Bob
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To: skimbell
It is nearly impossible for a fired bullet to ignite any explosive period. The only way it can happen out side of phosphorus, tracer, and other rare rounds is to have the muzzle flash be insanely close to the fule source.

Of course all gun shop owners will do is keep all firearms or ammo in a separate locked room.

21 posted on 07/05/2007 1:10:53 AM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: skimbell
This would also kill the fireworks industry. The Zambelli family might object to this. They store and ship tons of “black powder” explosives.
22 posted on 07/05/2007 6:32:25 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: skimbell

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts?page=108#108
20. Occupational Safety and Health

Covers Firearms!

Healthy People 2010 Objectives
Injury Prevention

The following objectives are a distillation of the injury prevention objectives from the Official HP2010 Site. This list includes the objectives contained in Chapter 15: Injury and Violence Prevention, the “official” list of Related Injury Objectives from Other Focus Areas, and additional objectives we believe are important to the field. Click on the objective number to view the full text of that objective.

Developmental objectives are those for which baseline or tracking data is judged to be insufficient. Developmental objectives may be deleted if a satisfactory data source isn’t identified by 2004.

Objectives listed at the link.


23 posted on 07/05/2007 6:35:06 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: B4Ranch

See link at post 23 for objectives.


24 posted on 07/05/2007 6:38:06 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus; poobear

Now that explains are new crack down on fireworks this season. :(


25 posted on 07/05/2007 6:38:52 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: skimbell
I commented in another thread earlier today that we need to pull a page from the lib's book and have our conservative representatives continually propose legislation aimed at reinforcing gun rights. Every time they knock a proposed bill down our reps need to submit another one. That's how they're doing it to us.

I was at a 'town meeting' with my congresscritter Sam Johnson, who is generally a fairly conservative guy. During the Q&A part of the meeting, I asked him if he could tell me what the bill number was for any bill he'd proposed or sponsored that would eliminate the 1934, 1968, and/or 1986 victim disarmament acts.

He started sputtering about such a thing not being possible to get passed. I told him I didn't care, and that we should have the gun grabbers wasting their time trying to stop good legislation like this rather than us spending all their efforts stopping their crap. 

Keep in mind that at the time we had a publican house, senate, and presidency. 

Even pols that are fairly decent on the 2nd don't really support it.

26 posted on 07/05/2007 8:20:25 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: Calpernia

Have you read the public comments. The first two are interesting.


27 posted on 07/05/2007 8:51:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: B4Ranch

I saw that link and didn’t click over yet. I’m multitasking at the moment :)

Thanks for the bump to remind me though.


28 posted on 07/05/2007 8:53:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: B4Ranch

“Try reading the OSHA proposal instead of the bs article.”

I did and the Analysis by the NRA-ILA is correct. The section on small arms ammo and storage propellants is ridiculous.

For instance, you would only be able to display 50 lbs of propellant in a store.

These are regulations that are not due to any exposions or incidents, but are due to another set of beaurocrats trying to regulate shooting out of existence.
I would suggest posting your comments to them and copying your House Rep and Senator. It is very clear that this is designed to shoot down the gun industry.


29 posted on 07/05/2007 6:11:40 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: TexanToTheCore

Did you click the link?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1860041/posts?page=47#47

The comments are Eagle Eye’s.


30 posted on 07/05/2007 7:02:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: skimbell
Sounds like it's time to kick the research into phased plasma energy weapons into high gear.


31 posted on 07/05/2007 7:10:18 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: Bob
Should OSHA exclude small arms ammunition, small arms primers, and smokeless propellants from the requirements of proposed paragraph (c)(3)(iii)?

Yup. That is exactly what you should do, OSHA. Glad we could help!

32 posted on 07/05/2007 7:16:14 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: seacapn
“NRA OPPOSES RESTRICTIONS ON EXPLOSIVES!!!

At least some explosives are arms, in the Constitutional sense.

33 posted on 07/05/2007 9:25:38 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
So, how do we stop this crap? If we can't stop it, how do gun owners get around it?

Get rid of the anti gunners!

34 posted on 07/05/2007 9:29:03 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Calpernia

the 4th of July isn’t as fun as it used to be.


35 posted on 07/06/2007 9:57:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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