Posted on 07/05/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Well, maybe I shouldn't say it, but the medical slang for a motorcycle is donorcycle.
Have you considered switching to a nice, safe, boring Volvo? :-)
Interesting post, discussion. Thanks to all.
I don’t have any problems with hospitals making money. I do have a problem with them unnecessarily allowing someone to die simply to get their organs.
Read more here to see how big a problem this is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=organharvesting
It's "our Maker's" - not "our makers". I'm alive today because of a liver transplant I received in '03 - I had a LOT of people praying for me, and a donor who obviously knew the value of a life. Now you can say (or imply, since you consider yourself to be so close to Him that you can ask such an obviously rhetorical question) that I'm alive today in spite of God's will, but one thing I know and always will - it wasn't my time to die. God has blessed my life immensely since my transplant - 2 grandchildren born, new job, great health (REALLY great health), and a much closer walk with "our Maker" (not to mention the appreciation for life everyone who knows me now has). If this horrible thing was done to this woman's son then it needs to be made right, but as far as our Maker's opinion on transplants - in general - perhaps you could tell all us transplant recipients - in general - just why it is you doubt whether or not we should be alive? What about blood transfusions? What about artificial insemination? Where do you draw the line with medical advances that save (or create) life and are you basing it on "our makers" opinion (I assume you must have some special revelation since He doesn't talk about these issues in the bible), or is it really just your opinion? Life is precious - every life - not just your own, and if at the end of my life one or more of my organs can be used to save or better the life of another - even you - then he/she is welcome to it.
I’m at ground zero and know different.
Butchers? You have NO clue what you’re talking about. Hope you never need a liver or lung.
“Have you considered switching to a nice, safe, boring Volvo? :-)”
Nah, that would be, well, safe and boring.
I also think that medical people calling motorcycles “donorcycles” is in rather poor taste and I’d prefer they keep their snarky opinions to themselves. I do wear all the gear, all the time (ATGATT), as they say, including a good helmet, but I’m under no illusions as to their ability to prevent fatal or disabling injuries under many possible circumstances. Some of just feel the need for a little more risk in our lives to feel like we’re actually alive, you know? If I had a wife or kids who depended on me I might feel differently, but, alas, I don’t.
I hope nobody is ever murdered so I can have one or more of their organs.
The difference between what?
It would only be fair if those who have not indicated a willingness to donate their organs were not eligible to receive them, either. But I’m not mean-spirited, so I don’t really mean that, despite the great shortage that exists of organs for transplantation.
Organ transplants can be a very good thing, when done ethically; but no one should ever be killed for their organs.
This doctor order 20-40 times the LD-50 dose of both morphine and Ativan. That boils down to murder.
Never state you’re an organ donor on your drivers license. If you do and there are multiple victoms, you’re the last into the ambulance, and if they’re aren’t enough, you wait.
I thought I covered that - if this really happened, then those responsible should pay the price. The thing that got my hackles up was:
Wonder what our makers opinion of that is?
Who on this thread has indicated a general opposition to organ donation?
Then what do you think our Maker’s opinion is of people being killed for their organs? I don’t think He approves.
I didn’t say that, though I wish I had.
...I don’t know about other transplants, but no money is exchanged for a donated liver - none. Now, in my case, the total cost of my transplant and extended hospital stay was about $2 mil (there were complications) - thank God for insurance! I wonder what our Maker’s opinion is regarding insurance?
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