Skip to comments.Muslims and mosques are putting down roots
Posted on 07/05/2007 2:43:56 PM PDT by NYer
TROY -- The mosque, a converted funeral home, is so small it can't accommodate worshipers for the best-attended prayers of the week. On Fridays, they pray in the basement of a nearby college athletic center instead.
They also borrow space for marriage ceremonies. And interfaith meetings. And holidays.
"It's time the community gets its own place," said Abdulkadir Elmi, a trustee and ex-president of Troy's Masjid al-Hidaya.
That should start to happen at the end of this month, with a groundbreaking expected for a proper mosque with a dome and two minarets on more than 12 acres in Latham.
It's a small story about one mosque, but it also reflects a bigger picture of Muslim growth in the area, where you can still count all the mosques on one hand.
Al-Hidaya leaders estimate that up to 6,000 Muslims now live in the Capital Region. That's perhaps double the population 20 years ago, though the numbers are only rough estimates based on holiday mosque attendance.
Some move here for work, often in engineering and related fields, the mosque leaders said. Others come to work or study at local colleges and end up staying.
As an example, Elmi pointed to the president of Albany's Masjid As-Salam. Shamshad Ahmad, born in India, arrived almost 30 years ago for a postgraduate teaching position at the University at Albany. The physics professor raised four kids here. All went to local colleges. One now has two kids of his own.
"Probably most families have a lot more growth than we've had because we haven't really had relatives come over," said Ahmad's son, Faisal, 28, who prayed at the Troy mosque as a Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute student.
As a child, Faisal Ahmad first worshipped in the basement of an Albany apartment building occupied by Muslim graduate students from Malaysia. Maybe six or seven people gathered for the Friday prayer service, called Jummah.
Growing up, he said, the Muslim community was so small that people tended to know each other. Now, Ahmad walks in the mall and sees unfamiliar Muslim women wearing head scarves.
"It's reached a point where there's new people coming into the community that we've never really seen before," said Ahmad, who believes the Muslim population is more like 10,000 to 12,000.
People often have to drive significant distances to worship at one of the area's five existing mosques. Once it's built, many will have an easier time reaching the new Al-Hidaya Center on Troy-Schenectady Road in Latham.
The Troy mosque's founders, many of them RPI students, moved into the old funeral home around 1986. The 15th Street building still has the parlor's yellowish tinted front windows.
Once, Friday prayer attendance for the Muslim community of Troy hovered around 100 people, most from the immediate area. Now, as grateful guests in the RPI athletic center, upward of 300 people gather to pray, many from places like Latham and Clifton Park.
Imam Djafer Sebkhaoui cautioned that you shouldn't think of the mosque as a fixed congregation. Someone might work at RPI and pray there during the day, he said, then go home and pray at Islamic Center of the Capital District in Colonie at night.
He also resisted labeling local mosques by the backgrounds of people who worship in them.
"We end up not having mosques that are necessarily distinguished by ethnicity," said Sebkhaoui, an Algerian native who studied psychology at RPI. "You may see that in large cities" -- an Arab mosque, a Pakistani one -- "but I don't think that it's the case in our area."
The new center will offer amenities unimaginable in the existing building, and it will free worshipers from leaning on the generosity of RPI.
Parking, for one. The plan calls for 250 spaces. Women will have multiple worship options: at the rear of the regular hall, or, if they prefer, in the privacy of a balcony upstairs. Their current space is much more limited.
"The mosque in Troy is really difficult for mothers with young children to come," said Faisal Ahmad's older sister, Huma, who surveyed women there to gauge their needs for the new mosque.
The whole project is expensive, so it will be built in three phases.
The first, $3.5 million phase includes the prayer hall and adjacent facilities. Later phases include a gym that could also accommodate large gatherings and a school. The old mosque will remain open.
And after so many years of attending interfaith functions hosted by others, Al-Hidaya members will finally be able to welcome guests to their own.
"We will maybe pay back all these favors that have been done to us," Elmi said.
“The mosque, a converted funeral home”
freedom of one religion may result in the extinction of others.
In London recently, an Imam and Anglican rector met. The Imam pointed to the large number of Churches and said: “By the end of this century, all of these Churches will be Mosques. We are reproducing and you are not”.
Not may, will
Exactly. It is remarkably appropriate for the Religion of Death.
They probably didn't need to convert much to change it from one house of death to another.
How appropriate, a house of death for the cult of death.
Peace loving members of all religions should be welcomed in every American communities. Acceptance and kindness to moderate muslims who want to live peacefully and productively in our communities will alienate and isolate the whackos who want to do harm.
In my region of the country, the KKK carried and burned crosses as they claimed to be arbitors of the Christianity which is an untrue adulteration of the faith. The Klan was so mainstream that they operated with impunity. As civil rights and disdain for racism became better accepted, the Klan was pushed further and further to the fringe so now they cannot and do not feel comfortable to run amok with violence. When peacable people of any and all faiths stand against what is wrong, the right will always prevail.
“freedom of one religion may result in the extinction of others.”
Viewing their lack of tolerance, I predict you are RIGHT!
spread like cancer, at least there is a cure for this though
subtract the distance between them and allah
Where are they getting the money for these mosques,
oh right more saudi/ public funds....
I am deeply offended by the fact that our enemies, who have sworn to kill us, are allowed to settle in. They should be driven back wherever they came from, and the camel they rode in on.
“Where a Muslim foot has trod, that land is forever part of Islam.”
The world-wide Caliphate continues to grow.
Soon they shall become bold. For they have already trod far.
mosque = enemy missile silo.
Interesting how none of them mention coming here for any First Amendment rights.
Oh...that's right...they are the ones trying to destroy the Constitution...while they keep their women "...at the rear of the regular hall".
Is that like the "back of the bus"?
Actually, no. They will use the demand for "tolerance" and acceptance as a way to cry racism if you don't let them in, then once they've got a foot in the door with the "moderates," the fundamentalists are right behind them.
Make no mistake, Islam does not have any place for competing ideologies or religions. Much like the stated purpose of Communism was "world revolution," the stated purpose of Islam is one planet under Shari'a Law.
There are no "moderate muslims". Islam is intolerant of moderation with respect to itself. "Moderate muslims" are Westernized, secularized people, seen as enemies of the one and only True Faith by the devout muslims.
Love your math! Let it be so.
The Muslim Society, which has about 35 member families
They need a 25,000 sq.ft. mosque for 35 families?
Paid for by the Saudis, no doubt!
Well, if each “family” is one man and his ten wives, with eight or nine kids per wife...
No muslim will ever be my countryman.
All it takes for evil to triumph is for good mooselimbs to do nothing.
Isn't it though.
Kill 'em and prepare 'em for planting without leaving the building...
Give me the chance and I would bury a dead pig under the building.
Sort of. The difference it that the KKK - who were Protestant white supremacists who hated Catholics, blacks, Jews and just about everybody else - really had no support in Christian or Jewish scripture. On the other hand, Islamic violence is fully supported in its scriptures, and the violent Muslims are actually the ones who are orthodox.
This is not the case in Christianity, and hence the KKK could not really claim to be Christian. The fact that they were good ole boys related to everybody in town does not qualify them as Christians.
Bulldoze the mosques
Deport the muzzles
Anyone see the old farmhouse and new mosque that comprise the “Islamic Center of Central Jersey?” It is right on Route One in South Brunswick.
the other way around wouldn’t hurt...