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The Iconoclast (Ron Paul article)
The Stranger, "Seattle's Only Newspaper" ^ | July 4,2007 | Eli Sanders

Posted on 07/05/2007 3:10:24 PM PDT by George W. Bush

The Iconoclast

GOP Candidate Catches on in Washington State

By Eli Sanders

How did a Republican Texas Congressman named Ron Paul become a darling of the Washington State Meetup scene?

It all began, oddly enough, with Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell and a stand she took against the international sex trade.

In 2004, Cantwell became a prominent voice behind the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act, which was intended to fight "human trafficking"—mail-order brides and the like. This highly displeased Adam Berman, 40, of Gig Harbor, who runs LatinLoveSearch.com, which he calls "the largest free Latin-themed dating website on the internet." His site is about love connections, not human exploitation, Berman says, and it wasn't forced to go free until after Cantwell's bill passed.

The bill actually wasn't Cantwell's alone: It was introduced in the House by another Washington Democrat, Rick Larsen, and it had strong bipartisan support. But Cantwell is a big name here in Washington State, and she stuck in Berman's mind. Her anti-human-trafficking agenda involved describing people like Berman—people running pay sites that connect Americans with foreign lovers—as "international marriage brokers," and when the bill became law it imposed strict requirements on these brokers, mandating that they conduct criminal background checks on their American customers and then translate the results into the native languages of all foreign users.

The only way Berman could get around the new rules was to stop charging people to use his site, which he did, losing a huge amount of money in the process.

As Berman was fuming about what Cantwell had done to his business, he noticed that Ron Paul, a Republican Congressman from Texas, had voted against the bill. Paul, a physician, has earned the nickname "Dr. No" because of his refusal to support any bill that he feels isn't constitutional, and apparently Paul felt Cantwell's "human trafficking" law fell short. When Dr. No jumped into the presidential race this year, Berman, who has never been active in politics before, decided to do all he could to support the guy.

"He's just against the federal government having so much control," Berman told me. "He's hitting home with people who are frustrated with what's going on."

For a web-savvy character like Berman, getting behind Paul meant starting a group on Meetup.com for Paul supporters in Washington. He now heads three groups—in Seattle, Tacoma, and Bellevue—with more than 300 members between them. That's almost as many Meetup supporters as Barack Obama has in this state, and more Washington Meetup members than Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and John McCain combined.

The online traction Paul is getting here mirrors a national phenomenon. Thanks to his iconoclastic showing in the Republican debates—where he's been the only candidate to speak forcefully against the Iraq war and to come out clearly in favor of fiscal conservatism, limited government, and hands-off social policy—Paul's candidacy is exploding online, bringing him more total Meetup groups nationwide than any other presidential candidate.

Does Meetup membership really matter? If you ask Howard Dean, the answer is yes. It was through Meetup that Dean's surprise internet support began to take off in Washington and around the country in 2003, the year that the internet first emerged as a platform for launching nonmainstream candidates into mainstream viability. And as a gauge of potential online donors, Paul's Meetup numbers are huge; there are rumors that he may have pulled in $4 million online during the most recent fund-raising quarter.

Paul's actual fundraising numbers for the quarter won't be released until July 15, but if the rumors prove true he will vault from being an entertaining Republican asterisk to... well, being an entertaining Republican asterisk with a good chunk of cash and a lot of online supporters.

As Dean showed, that doesn't necessarily transform a person into a winning candidate. But here in Washington, the Paul Meetup contingent is optimistic. Berman, the local Meetup leader, was at a Round Table Pizza in Tacoma on July 2 communing with Paul supporters. The next day another Meetup group gathered in the food court of the Crossroads Mall in Bellevue. And Berman is planning a huge Ron Paul presence at Hempfest. (Paul has opposed federal raids on medical-marijuana operations in states that allow medical marijuana, based on states' rights principles.)

Paul's candidacy, Berman says, "is growing like wildfire" because of "a crossover message that's able to escape the party line." Paul himself likes to put it this way: "Freedom is popular." In independent-minded Washington State, it's no surprise that this message would be appealing to antiwar lefties, libertarians, and frustrated conservatives alike—people who applaud Paul's votes against the Iraq war, against the PATRIOT Act, against gun control, and against raising taxes.

"The guy's definitely a phenomenon that most people haven't seen," Berman says.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: marriage; ronpaul
The article points out how Ron Paul has such a large and devoted group of special-interest and single-issue voters supporting him.

Online gamblers and dating sites, those who oppose modem taxes and online sales taxes, those who oppose the Surveilance State in all its forms, the anti-U.N. folks, closed-borders folks, pro-gun folk, medical marijuana advocates, small-government/lower-taxes folk of al stripes, goldbugs who want to see real gold currency return to compete with paper money... these are the kind of supporters Ron Paul has.

Many post scornfully on these threads about Ron Paul's position on Iraq. What they find it hard to grasp, apparently, is there are a sizable number of people (perhaps even voters) who care rather passionately about just a single issue or just a few issues. And Ron Paul has a lot of these diverse single-issue groups supporting him. I don't think anyone could list them all because Ron Paul has said NO! to a lot of things over the years. LOL.

Some will say you can't form a political movement from groups of single-issue voters. But the reason that RP can do this is because he favors smaller government and more liberty in every case and this is precisely why he is so fittingly titled "Dr. No". And when he votes no on these bills, he often writes a piece or speaks in the well of the House to these issues and these voter groups, often the only one in Congress who speaks and votes to defend their Liberty against Big Government. So his cause is inevitably pro-liberty and small-government and, therefore, a genuinely conservative candidacy, regardless of any ongoing Wilsonian adventure the D.C. establishment has embarked upon across The Pond.

So for all of you who don't understand how Ron Paul has any support at all, look at just this one website owner and how he became a Friend Of Ron because of Big Government prying its way into his online business.

1 posted on 07/05/2007 3:10:26 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; The_Eaglet; Irontank; Gamecock; elkfersupper; dcwusmc; gnarledmaw; ...

Ron Paul campaign website

Ron's weekly message [5 minutes audio, every Monday]
PodcastWeekly archive • Toll-free 888-322-1414 •
Pinglist: Join/Leave

2 posted on 07/05/2007 3:13:08 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

Good find. I think it can happen! And your rant is well done, also. Nice work.


3 posted on 07/05/2007 3:22:03 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: George W. Bush
Some will say you can't form a political movement from groups of single-issue voters

I don't see why not. It's a perfect description of the Democrat party.

L

4 posted on 07/05/2007 3:25:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: George W. Bush

Ron Paul will be on Stephanapolis on Sunday morning. Pass it on.


5 posted on 07/05/2007 3:28:32 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
I had to click the Eventful.com link to check. Sure enough...
6 posted on 07/05/2007 3:40:14 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: dcwusmc
Check this out: folks making collectible private currency in precious metals to campaign for Ron Paul. No other candidate has supporters that have such a personal attachment to them. Not like RP has.


7 posted on 07/05/2007 3:44:34 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

Well, if “The Stranger” endorses him, that’s good enough for me. Gawd almighty.


8 posted on 07/05/2007 3:45:14 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: George W. Bush

LOL!! You’re joking right?


9 posted on 07/05/2007 3:50:31 PM PDT by StarCMC (Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. —George Washington)
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To: StarCMC


I'm not and they're not. They appear to have $1000 gold pieces with Ron Paul on them. It's a fundraising thing (and you still have the precious metals however the campaign turns out!) I'm not kidding! LOL.



If Ron Paul collectible currency doesn't do it for you, how about Free Jets For Ron?

Another small but dedicated bunch of RP supporters. They're offering him free jet travel because he was their champion when they least expected anyone to speak up for them.
July 2, 2007 Neal Rodriguez

I emailed Ron Paul's events coordinator Andrew Michel with the following proposal to offer him a free flight on a private jet to any campaign stop of his choice:

June 7, 2007

Dear Andrew,

I am Neal Rodriguez, with Imperial Jets, out of New York City. We have some private aircraft at our disposal, and I wanted to know if Congressman Ron Paul would be interested in being flown by private jet on our dime. We can arrange private jet travel to a destination on the campaign trail if he finds it appropriate.

We are most supportive of Ron Paul’s stand on limited government; particularly his opposition to FAA User Fees which surprisingly gathered considerable positive feedback and has helped spread the word on Ron Paul’s bid for the presidency on several social search networks: Ron Paul Uncensored

It would be my esteemed pleasure to make his transportation means more convenient.

Best regards,
Neal
This is what I mean by diverse single-issue supporters. And they are active. Just when you think you've heard it all, another group like this surfaces, all having been fans of Ron Paul for years.
10 posted on 07/05/2007 3:58:25 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: StarCMC

BTW, that picture of the RP coins is from their website. Just click the graphic. It’s for real and they’re using it to campaign with all the precious metals folk.


11 posted on 07/05/2007 4:10:09 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

Thats sweet. I just sent the link out to my meetup group. We went out here locally to a number of fireworks events and handed out fliers. All volunteer, all paid for by grass roots supporters. I hope this type of organization is going on in states like Iowa and New Hampshire. Those are the most important. Most people dont even know who Ron Paul is yet but when they find out about him theyre all receptive to his message. Get out there and make it happen!


12 posted on 07/05/2007 4:47:04 PM PDT by JJTHEBULL (You're either with US, or you're with the ILLEGALS)
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To: JJTHEBULL
Even knowing RP's work for so many years, it still surprises me just how diverse a group of supporters he has. To read threads here at FR, you'd think his followers were all anti-war types. In truth, Iraq doesn't seem to head the list of any RP supporters I know of. It's down the list a ways, below Freedom through Smaller Government (a.k.a. Liberty).

RP is small but growing in Iowa, his supporters are planning for 10,000 at the caucus. They're producing and distibuting their own RP DVDs. They're committed to making 30,000 of them.

NH is a natural territory for Ron Paul. He also has the state's leading pro-lifer campaigning for him.
13 posted on 07/05/2007 5:18:34 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

gotta love that photo of Ron Paul


14 posted on 07/05/2007 5:24:32 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: George W. Bush

Nah — I’m afraid RP doesn’t do it for me. Gold coins and free jets aside, I just think he’s way too out there for me. And I’m still scratching my head to figure out how he can run as a republican and not even be close to the platform on most issues. *shrugs*


15 posted on 07/05/2007 7:54:24 PM PDT by StarCMC (Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. —George Washington)
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To: George W. Bush
In truth, Iraq doesn't seem to head the list of any RP supporters I know of. It's down the list a ways, below Freedom through Smaller Government (a.k.a. Liberty).

Liberty heads my list and Ron Paul is the only candidate defending liberty.
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16 posted on 07/05/2007 8:22:02 PM PDT by radioman
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To: George W. Bush

the scariest thing about ron paul are his supporters. who are these nut cases?


17 posted on 07/05/2007 9:56:44 PM PDT by pacelvi
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To: StarCMC; George W. Bush
Nah — I’m afraid RP doesn’t do it for me. Gold coins and free jets aside, I just think he’s way too out there for me. And I’m still scratching my head to figure out how he can run as a republican and not even be close to the platform on most issues. *shrugs*

For todays Republican Party's acquired taste for liberalism and big government JFK would be considered too conservative. Name me one besides Ron Paul running for POTUS that is actually saying government is too big and too intrusive on our freedoms and rights. Name one who besides Ron Paul says he will roll back the increase in government programs since Reagan left office. By that I mean shut down such useless departments as Education and leave it to the states, Department of Homeland Insecurity and leave it to the various departments professionals, and other created make jobs for political friends federal programs that have been created.

18 posted on 07/06/2007 12:21:52 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: George W. Bush

His attraction though reminds me of Howard Dean.


19 posted on 07/06/2007 12:31:57 AM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: cva66snipe

That is a trick question. There is no candidate other than Ron Paul.


20 posted on 07/06/2007 4:25:54 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
Hey snipe, when were you on the Kennedy?

Did you see in the news yesterday that it was supposedly a terrorist target?

21 posted on 07/06/2007 5:58:59 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: cva66snipe

I don’t believe Ron Paul is conservative. Sorry.


22 posted on 07/06/2007 6:01:22 AM PDT by StarCMC (Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. —George Washington)
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To: Retired COB
Hey snipe, when were you on the Kennedy? Did you see in the news yesterday that it was supposedly a terrorist target?

When I staggered up the wrong brow at pier 12? LOL. Just joking :>} CVA/CV 66 was AMERICA one carrier her senior. I'd see the Kennedy when it on rare occassions pulled into NOB NORVA usually headed for the yards. I saw the article a minute ago. Mayport surprises me for reasons I won't go into. I don't know the time frame this was to happen but if it was pre-9/11 it was a possibility of reality as was any base for that matter.

24 posted on 07/06/2007 10:31:25 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: StarCMC
I don’t believe Ron Paul is conservative. Sorry.

In terms of what is being sold today by politico's as Conservatism neither do I. The term Constitution Preservationist comes more to mind. When Bush and Thompson, McCain, etc can be called conservative it pretty much leaves the door open to anyone besides Rudy & Mitt to fall under Conservative. Ron Paul is the closest person in congress we have to believing in and upholding the government the founders intended for us to have.

25 posted on 07/06/2007 10:37:13 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Abcdefg
That is a trick question. There is no candidate other than Ron Paul.

LOL Paul is my first choice. But I could handle voting for Huckabee, Tancredo, and Hunter in the general. That's it though unless a third party choice that's better comes along. The media's top four darlings of the election will not be getting my vote either in the primaries or general election. I think we can do beter than Rudy, Mitt, Fred, or John.

26 posted on 07/06/2007 10:42:39 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: StarCMC
Nah — I’m afraid RP doesn’t do it for me. Gold coins and free jets aside, I just think he’s way too out there for me. And I’m still scratching my head to figure out how he can run as a republican and not even be close to the platform on most issues. *shrugs*

Ron Paul is abotu as conservative as one can find in Congress. He is 100% pro constitution. Everything he votes for (or against) has to pass his constitutional litmus test. 97% of the 'republicans' in DC are drunk on power and could not give a rats arse about the constitution.

Ron Paul may not be perfect on ever issue. Ed Koch (former NYC mayer) once said something like, 'take 10 issues.. if you agree with me 100% on everything, you are insane and have no mind of your own.. however, if you agree with me on 7/10 issues, I would ask you to consider voting for me'...it was something along those lines.

Ron Paul might not be perfect. However, Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter and the best men for the job. Sadly, neither of the 3 will get it.
27 posted on 07/06/2007 8:03:06 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: George W. Bush

“What they find it hard to grasp, apparently, is there are a sizable number of people (perhaps even voters) who care rather passionately about just a single issue or just a few issues.”

I find it hard to grasp that 23% of registered voters got our current president in office. 22% voted for Kerry and that leaves around 50% that didn’t vote at all.


28 posted on 07/06/2007 8:10:45 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: BigTom85
I'd say I agree with him maybe on one out of 10. And that'd depend heavily on which 10 issues you pick.
29 posted on 07/06/2007 8:11:52 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: pacelvi
the scariest thing about ron paul are his supporters. who are these nut cases?

True conservatives. Not Bush-bots or GOP water carriers. We believe in the constitution, especially the 2nd amendment. We believe that the federal budget should be cut BIG time. We believe in the elimination of the ATF and the Dept of Education. We also believe in getting rid of the Dept of Homeland Security- a totaly endless and disfunctional bureaucracy.... many lawmakers and bureaucrats in DC openly admit to this Dept being a mess and in total confusion.

Paul comes from one of the more conservative areas on the US... east Texas.. Victoria county and Galveston bay area. Galveston actually has their own social security system.. I believe that Galveston is also exempt from federal SS tax (I think).

You should read about his district.. it's a great area.

So now that I pointed ot some good things about Ron Paul, I am sure that you are going to come back with the generic bush-bot response of 'we cant cut and run!!!' or 'no surrender'... right, great... go take that nonsense over to the Hannity thread.. I'm sure there are plenty on there that will agree with you..

I await your response. Please type a thoughtful one.
30 posted on 07/06/2007 8:18:17 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: StarCMC
heres a few issues// go down the line. Let me know if you agree or diagree with him
RP is pro gun
RP wants to do away with the ATF
RP wants to do away with the IRS
RP wants to get rid of the Dept of Education
RP wants to build a fence and secure the border
RP wants to restore the constitution and eliminate DC Bureaucracy
RP wants out of Iraq (you will disagree here)
RP wants to end borrowing billions of $ from communist China
RP is strongly against bills loaded with 'pork'.
31 posted on 07/06/2007 8:23:57 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: BigTom85

Foreign aid often more harmful than helpful : Strongly Opposes topic 17

YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days: Strongly Favors topic 17

Strongly Opposes topic 19:
Drug use is immoral: enforce laws against it
(10 points on Social scale)

Legalize industrial hemp: Opposes topic 19
War on Drugs has abused Bill of Rights : Strongly Opposes topic 19
Legalize medical marijuana: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Rated A by VOTE-HEMP, indicating a pro-hemp voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 19
NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests: Strongly Opposes topic 19
NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism: Strongly Opposes topic 19

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm


He also votes strongly in favor of Arab issues over Israel. I have no interest in supporting someone who does that.


32 posted on 07/06/2007 8:36:09 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: BigTom85
From the same link:

Ron Paul is a Moderate Libertarian.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.
Click here for VoteMatch quiz.
So ya see, I don't think he's REALLY conservative. He may say that he is, but his voting record says otherwise.
33 posted on 07/06/2007 8:38:23 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: StarCMC
Hes a constitutionalist.

Now answer my previous post.
34 posted on 07/06/2007 8:41:22 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: All
The Conservative Case Against Ron Paul By John Hawkins

Even though he's not one of the top tier contenders, I thought it might be worthwhile to go ahead and write a short, but sweet primer that will explain why so many Republicans have a big problem with Ron Paul. Enjoy!

#1) Ron Paul is a libertarian, not a conservative: I have nothing against libertarians. To the contrary, I like them and welcome them into the Republican Party. But, conservatives have even less interest in seeing a libertarian as the GOP's standard bearer than seeing a moderate as our party's nominee. In Paul's case, his voting record shows that he is the least conservative member of Congress running for President on the GOP side. So, although he is a small government guy, he very poorly represents conservative opinion on a wide variety of other important issues.


Republican presidential contender Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas., answers a question during the first republican presidential primary debate of the 2008 election at the Ronald Reagan Library on Thursday, May 3, 2007 in Simi Valley, Calif. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)
Related Media:
Who was the winner of the debate?
VIDEO: Q-and-A: Winners, Surprises of GOP Debate
VIDEO: Inside the Debate Spin Room

#2) Ron Paul is one of the people spreading the North American Union conspiracy: If you're so inclined, you can click here for just one example of Paul talking up a mythical Bush administration merger of the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, but you're not missing much if you don't. Reputable conservatives shouldn't be spreading these crazy conspiracy theories and the last thing the GOP needs is a conspiracy crank as our nominee in 2008.

#3) Ron Paul encourages "truther" conspiracy nuts: Even though Ron Paul admits that he does not believe in a 9/11 government conspiracy, he has been flirting with the wackjobs in the "truther movement," like Alex Jones and the "Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth." Republican politicians should either ignore people like them or set them straight, not lend credence to their bizarre conspiracy theories by acting as if they may have some merit, which is what Ron Paul has done.

#4) Ron Paul's racial views: From the Houston Chronicle, Texas congressional candidate Ron Paul's 1992 political newsletter highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues.

Under the headline of "Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time."

..."Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

...He added, "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

Paul also asserted that "complex embezzling" is conducted exclusively by non-blacks.

"What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" he wrote."

Ron Paul has since claimed that although these comments were in his newsletter, under his name, he didn't write them. Is he telling the truth? Who knows? Either way, those comments don't say much for Paul.

#5) A lot of Ron Paul's supporters are incredibly irritating: There are, without question, plenty of decent folks who support Ron Paul. However, for whatever reason, his supporters as a group are far more annoying than those of all the other candidates put together. It's like every spammer, truther, troll, and flake on the net got together under one banner to spam polls and try to annoy everyone into voting for Ron Paul (which is, I must admit, a novel strategy).

#6) Ron Paul is an isolationist: The last time the United States retreated to isolationism was after WW1 and the result was WW2. Since then, the world has become even more interconnected which makes Ron Paul's strategy of retreating behind the walls of Fortress America even more unworkable than it was back in the thirties.

#7) Ron Paul wants to immediately cut and run in Iraq: Even if you're an isolationist like Ron Paul, the reality is that our foreign policy isn't currently one of isolationism and certain allowances should be made to deal with that reality. Yet, Paul believes we should immediately retreat from Al-Qaeda in Iraq and let that entire nation collapse into genocide and civil war as a result. Maybe, just maybe, Paul's motives are better than those of liberals like Murtha and Kerry, who want to see us lose a war for political gain, but the catastrophic results would be exactly the same.


Republican presidential contender Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas., answers a question during the first republican presidential primary debate of the 2008 election at the Ronald Reagan Library on Thursday, May 3, 2007 in Simi Valley, Calif. (AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian)

#8)

In the single most repulsive moment of the entire Presidential race so far, Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda's attack on America with this comment about 9/11:

 

"They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years."

 

 

In other words, America deserved to be attacked by Al-Qaeda.

This is the sort of facile comment you'd expect to hear from an America-hating left winger like Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky, not from a Republican running for President -- or from any Republican in office for that matter. If you want to truly realize how foolish that sort of thinking is, imagine what the reaction would be if we had bombed Egyptian or Indonesian civilians after 9/11 and then justified it by saying "We attacked them because those Muslims have been over here."

#9) Ron Paul is the single, least electable major candidate running for the presidency in either party: Libertarianism simply is not considered to be a mainstream political philosophy in the United States by most Americans. That's why the Libertarian candidate in 2004, Michael Badnarik, only pulled .3% of the vote. Even more notably, Ron Paul only pulled .47% of the vote when he ran at the top of the Libertarian ticket in 1988. Granted, Paul would do considerably better than that if he ran at the top of the Republican Party ticket, but it's hard to imagine his winning more than, say 35%, of the national vote and a state or two -- even if he were very lucky. In other words, having Ron Paul as the GOP nominee would absolutely guarantee the Democratic nominee a Reaganesque sweep in the election.

Summary: Is Ron Paul serious about small government, enforcing the Constitution, and enforcing the borders? Yes, and those are all admirable qualities. However, he also has a host of enormous flaws that makes him unqualified to be President and undesirable, even as a Republican Congressmen.

Mr. Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Conservative Grapevine and Right Wing News. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com and consults for the Duncan Hunter campaign. http://townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=the_conservative_case_against_ron_paul&ns=JohnHawkins&dt=06/15/2007&page=2
35 posted on 07/06/2007 8:46:51 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: VfB Stuttgart
I’m going to head over on my lunch break and see if I can meet him.

So did you get to see him at ABC?
36 posted on 07/07/2007 4:16:45 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: StarCMC
Hmm...so Duncan is gunning for some of that sweet Ron Paul support. Big deal.

Ron Paul and his legions of supporters will be in the race long after Duncan Hunter (and Tancredo and Huckabee and McStain) are forced to withdraw due to lack of funds.

Right now, we're just waiting them out.
37 posted on 07/07/2007 4:20:33 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush
Ron Paul and his legions of supporters will be in the race long after Duncan Hunter (and Tancredo and Huckabee and McStain) are forced to withdraw due to lack of funds.

If the man doesn't have enough "principles" to run as what he is, and instead pretends to be a Republican just to try to cash in, then his "principles" really aren't.

38 posted on 07/07/2007 2:00:18 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: StarCMC
Ronald Reagan also did not comport to the Rockefeller Republicans. He ran as a conservative. As does Ron Paul.

The other candidates in the race, especially Rudy McRomney, represent the old Rockefeller Republicans trying to dress up in Reagan's old clothes and doing a bad job of it. They are statists, big-government Republicans.

Only Ron Paul represents smaller and less intrusive government, a free marke, meaningful states' rights, and a foreign policy that is beacon of hope to all and only an enemy to the enemies of liberty.
39 posted on 07/07/2007 3:34:38 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush
a foreign policy that is beacon of hope to all and only an enemy to the enemies of liberty

I think you forgot your /humor tag.

40 posted on 07/07/2007 3:53:06 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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