Skip to comments.Proof on Ice: Southern Greenland Was Once Green; Earth Warmer
Posted on 07/05/2007 4:37:15 PM PDT by Islander7
In 1981 researchers removed a long tube of ice from the center of a glacier in southern Greenland at a site known as Dye 3. More than a mile (two kilometers) long, the deep end of the core sample had been crushed by the pressure of the ice above it and sullied by contact with rock and soil. By destroying the pattern of annual layers, this contamination seemingly made it impossible to assess the region's ancient climate. But DNA extracted from the previously ignored dirty bottom has revealed that Greenland was not only green, it boasted boreal forests like those found in Canada and Scandinavia today.
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It must have come from somewhere, but where!? If this doesn’t convince you that intelligent design is neither intelligent nor is it design, I don’t know what will, because the only sequitors I recognize are the non-sequitors, if you follow me.
Global warming and also Bush’s fault .....
Think of the carnage: Dr. Heidi, Al Gore, those 2,000 other "scientists", the UN, TWC, etc., and a crap load of ordinary schmucks that you and I see every day.
What ever will they do?
What ever it is, it ain't going to be pretty.
Yes, best to keep this on the QT.
Nice list! Thanks.
Must be a record, also a non-sequitor, if you follow me.
These upstart scientists should stop slowing down the global warming gravy train with facts and evidence. There is too much money to be made out there in “investigating” and “fixing” the problem.
Must be a record, also a non-sequitor, if you follow me.And a joke, if you follow me.
I've always known that, or simply assumed whoever named the place originally was neither sensory-challenged nor retarded...
I never saw the Viking explorers are either practical jokers or whimsical.
DUH! When the vikings settles Greenland it was green!
That pesky “last interglacial,” again.
butterflies and spiders trapped in ice - the 'climate' must have changed very quickly, blitzschnell and catastrophic.
Lots of sites give some Greenland history. One site is the American Heritage dictionary:
"WORD HISTORY How did a glacier-covered island get the name Greenland? In Norse legends written in the 12th century and later, it is told that Eric the Red explored the southeast and southwest coasts of Greenland in A.D. 983-986 and gave the country its name because people would be more likely to go there if it had an attractive name. Greenland was warmer in the tenth century than it is now. There were many islands teeming with birds off its western coast; the sea was excellent for fishing; and the coast of Greenland itself had many fjords where anchorage was good. At the head of the fjords there were enormous meadows full of grass, willows, junipers, birch, and wild berries. Thus Greenland actually deserved its name. Another attraction of Greenland was that Iceland and northwestern Europe, including England, had a grievous year of famine in 976, and people were hungry for food as well as land."
Another site covers the fact that Greenland settlements of Europeans were abandoned about 1400, during the Little Ice Age. It is still colder in Greenland now than when Eric the Red was there.
From the Smithsonian Institute,
"Studies of environmental conditions, climate, and their interactions have produced important new information relevant to Norse extinction in Greenland. Most revealing is the detailed evidence of climatic changes that occurred in the northwestern Atlantic beginning in the early 1300s. Changes in atmospheric temperature are recorded in such diverse materials as glacier ice derived from snow falling on the Greenland Ice Cap, fossil vegetation and pollen deposited annually in lake sediments, chemical signatures in isotopic composition of sea sediments, animal and human bones, and even the species of insect pests that accompanied Vikings and their animals as they settled new lands. These indicators clearly suggest that the climate was cooling in the 14th century, and that the Greenlandic environment had been depleted of its "natural capital"--its previously untapped grasslands and animal resources-over 500 years of farming practices in this delicate arctic climate."
Other references discuss written directions for how to reach Greenland. Around 1200 the directions started to mention avoiding the icebergs, a caution that was missing from earlier instructions. The record, both written and from core samples, shows that Greenland has been warmer in the last 1000 years than it is now. The alarms about global warming aren't supported by Greenland's history.
"Global warming" is a study in political opinion manipulation, not science.
That lesson in climatology was 46 years ago. Now, why is this article, "news?"
But I think the grammar is a bit ambiguous in the linked article. Did the scientists find "insects ranging from butterfiles to spiders" or did they find "DNA from ...insects ranging from butterflies to spiders"?
natural variations in Earth's obliquity...
IMO the entire article is a fascinating example of ambiguity!
That lesson in climatology was 46 years ago. Now, why is this article, "news?"
Juan Cabrillo's diaries of taking his ship up the California coast what, 250, 300 years ago? -- record pretty solid snowfall all the way to the water on the Big Sur section (roughly halfway between San Francisco and Los Angeles), and unheard of in any histories of homesteaders going back to the 1850s. If it snowed there like that today, it would be considered environmental DISASTER!!! My God, the dead sea otters and sea lions -- and they're protected! Heads will roll!
Oldest DNA Ever Recovered Shows Warmer Planet: Report (hundreds of thousands of years ago)
Brietbart.com ^ | Jul 5 03:14 PM US/Eastern | AFP
“Southern Greenland Was Once Green; Earth Warmer”
The REAL Inconvenient Truth
Ancient Greenland was actually green!
MSNBC | 7-05-07 | By Ker Than
Posted on 07/05/2007 5:54:18 PM EDT by Ancient Drive
DNA reveals a green GreenlandScientists have drilled through two kilometres of ice in southern Greenland and retrieved DNA from the pine forest that once existed there, buzzing with prehistoric insect life. Dated to between 450,000 and 800,000 years old, the DNA is among the oldest ever found... plant fossils dating to 2.4 million years ago have been found in the far northeast of the country. But, surprisingly, the DNA evidence for plant life stops at 450,000 years ago. Researchers say the lack of younger DNA suggests that this portion of the land has been covered by ice ever since -- and that goes against the prevailing view of Greenland's climatic history. During the last interglacial period (130-116 thousand years ago), the climate was 5 Â°C warmer than it is today, says Eske Willerslev, director of the centre for ancient genetics at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark. "Sea levels were 5-6 metres higher, and most scientific models have assumed that the melting of the southern Greenland ice cap was responsible. But our data suggest that this was not the case."
by Louis Buckley
July 5, 2007
I knew one of these guys would have to insist that this can't just be a natural occurance...nooooo, man is to blame along with natural cycles.
These dishonest idiots will not be changed from their religious belief that man is really responsible for "global warming" FARCE!!
Cuttnhorse, B.S. Geology
From the article: Biologist Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen and an international team of colleagues discovered DNA from alder, spruce, pine and yew trees at the glacier's base as well as insects ranging from butterflies to spiders. This is the "first evidence for a forested southern Greenland," Willerslev says.
What I was pointing out was that the sentence should have made clear whether the scientists found actual "insects" or just the DNA from insects. I believe there is another article posted on FR which indicates that everything they are describing was from DNA.
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Note: this topic is dated 7/05/2007.