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Pope explains revived Mass
Jewish World Jpost.com ^
| July 1, 2007
| LISA PALMIERI-BILLIG,
Posted on 07/06/2007 4:29:38 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:35:31 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
To: 26lemoncharlie
This reminds me of the warnings of all the anti-semitism that was supposed to spring up from The Passion of the Christ.
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:35:34 AM PDT
by
Talking_Mouse
(O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
To: 26lemoncharlie
Why would it be divisive if the Latin mass is optional?
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:36:09 AM PDT
by
Savage Beast
(Ignore the will of the people at your peril, Political "Aristocrats"!)
Main Entry: per·fid·i·ous
Pronunciation: (")p&r-'fi-dE-&s
Function: adjective
: of, relating to, or characterized by perfidy
synonym see FAITHLESS
- per·fid·i·ous·ly adverb
- per·fid·i·ous·ness noun
Main Entry: per·fi·dy
Pronunciation: 'p&r-f&-dE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Latin perfidia, from perfidus faithless, from per- detrimental to + fides faith -- more at PER-, FAITH
1 : the quality or state of being faithless or disloyal : TREACHERY 2 : an act or an instance of disloyalty
performing mass(sic)
Palmieri-Billig thinks that she's in the Catskills watching summer stock.
To: NYer
It will be a very long time before we understand the true magnitude of the damage done by Vatican II. God bless Benedict VI for his courage in restoring the Latin Mass, but it may be too late to reverse the trend.
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:47:41 AM PDT
by
giotto
To: Savage Beast
“Why would it be divisive if the Latin mass is optional?”
That is what I would like to know.
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:47:59 AM PDT
by
Dudoight
To: giotto
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:49:14 AM PDT
by
giotto
To: 26lemoncharlie
Sorry, this article has it wrong. Under the new directive, no one has to ask permission of the bishop, and the Latin Mass was not abolished. (those are the two biggies I’ve spotted, haven’t read the whole article yet.)
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:50:20 AM PDT
by
blu
(All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
To: blu
Yeah, I caught those two.
Can't help thinking: what ELSE did the writer get wrong? Two major factual errors in a story tells me the reporter is lazy and doesn't think.
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posted on
07/06/2007 4:55:10 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: AnAmericanMother
Or,the author is Jewish and doesn’t know our Mass very well, and is looking for a centuries-old bone to pick! Sorry, no bones here, move along please!
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posted on
07/06/2007 5:00:59 AM PDT
by
blu
(All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
To: 26lemoncharlie
Nearly every point the author makes in this article is wrong, wrong, wrong! Why would someone so ignorant of the subject matter offer an article for publication? Why shine a light on your ignorance?
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posted on
07/06/2007 5:05:35 AM PDT
by
pgkdan
(Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
To: blu
I don't understand what the fuss is about.
If you REALLY believe in your religion, you want everybody to attain its benefits and be happy and blessed. (On the other hand, if you don't really believe in your religion, and all religions are equivalent, then I suppose you might be in a state of logical disconnect and overly sensitive about such things.)
Particularly if your religion is related to another religion (as Christianity is derived from Judaism) you feel that members of that religion are your kin, so you ESPECIALLY want them to be happy and blessed.
So you pray for them!
Was en tsimmes vor nit vil!
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posted on
07/06/2007 5:16:18 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
To: 26lemoncharlie
Jewish groups are upset that the mass contain a prayer for the conversion of the Jews. Oh, for cryin' out loud.
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posted on
07/06/2007 5:16:29 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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posted on
07/06/2007 5:21:08 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: 26lemoncharlie
Contemporary Good Friday prayers no longer ask for the conversion of Jews Actually they do. The irony of all of this is that, if Christianity is indeed a false religion, why are people so afraid of the power of Christian prayer?
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posted on
07/06/2007 6:06:37 AM PDT
by
Rutles4Ever
(Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
To: blu
Under the new directive, no one has to ask permission of the bishop, and the Latin Mass was not abolished. Yeah, this is a poorly-researched article. The whole point of the motu proprio is to remove the requirement of priests to first get the permission of his bishop to celebrate in Latin. And apparently these journalists were in a cave when JP II's funeral Mass was celebrated in Latin - pretty strange for a rite that's been "abolished".
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posted on
07/06/2007 6:12:17 AM PDT
by
Rutles4Ever
(Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
To: 26lemoncharlie
I would like to know where in the Latin mass I attended frequently in the 40s and50s the ‘perfidious jews’ are mentioned.It is not in my daily missal.
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posted on
07/06/2007 6:14:18 AM PDT
by
ardara
To: 26lemoncharlie
When the church and Mass went from a quiet, dignified ceremony in Latin with an organist to a hometown revival with geetars and kissing and hugging, I left the church.
When I went back on one occasion and introduced myself to the pastor after leaving Mass, he gave me a box of little envelopes. I left and never went back again.
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posted on
07/06/2007 6:18:28 AM PDT
by
Sacajaweau
("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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